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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Durbin (D) is asking Senator Graham (R) to hold a hearing for Merrick Garland
Yep, this is where we are on February 1st.
@LindseyGrahamSC there’s no justification to object to Feb. 8 timing.
Link to tweet
Thomas Hurt
(13,929 posts)aren't the Democrats supposed to hold the chairs of all committees now?
Fiendish Thingy
(19,023 posts)uponit7771
(92,142 posts)... I've ever seen one.
Just change the rules and kick them out
elleng
(137,458 posts)or TELLS, more like it, imo.
msongs
(70,408 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)dsc
(52,746 posts)Graham is apparently somehow still chair.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The suggestion is that Durbin is tiptoeing around Graham. More of the "Democrats are wusses" chorus.
lapucelle
(19,646 posts)The full text of the letter can be accessed through a link at the bottom of this article.
https://www.riverbender.com/articles/details/durbin-to-graham-no-justification-to-delay-judge-garlands-confirmation-hearing-47543.cfm
And the OP doesn't include the 2/2 tweet...
Link to tweet
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)lapucelle
(19,646 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)onetexan
(13,913 posts)without you. Not sure why ppl here are saying the GOP are still in charge of the senate.
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The Wizard
(12,995 posts)reorganizing to get leverage. I'm thinking he'll bribe Manchin to get him to switch to R that will make him majority leader again.
Celerity
(47,345 posts)Senate in 2022, he might bolt then, as his 2024 re-election bid in the insanely Trumpian Red WV looms large.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)white nationalism. He's conservative but i doubt he'll switch.
Celerity
(47,345 posts)him is stupid, as we will lose the seat for sure, but I am under NO illusion that Manchin is flat-out what is for the best interest of the nation on many subjects. We need to elect enough non-conservadems to neuter Manchin, Sinema and whoever else wants to play footsie with the centre-right (or become the centre right themselves). Manchin and Sinema would be considered as shading towards the beginning of the rightward edge of most all core EU nations' centre right parties. Henry Cuellar (forced birther, A- rated by NRA, anti-LGBTQ, pro private prisons and big oil, anti-immigrant, supports, fundraises for, and campaigns for a racist RW climate change denier Rethug in John Carter, etc) would be considered a hard radical RW'er. That is how artificially skewed to the right the US political scales are.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,023 posts)They are delaying hearings for AG because, once confirmed, all the following will happen:
1. Investigations into Republican congressional collusion with insurrectionists
2. DOJ will bring felony charges for Insurrectionists before Grand Juries, including charges for Seditious Conspiracy and Insurrection
3. DOJ will expedite criminal and counterintelligence investigations into Trump and his administration, likely beginning with the “Individual 1” charges from the Mueller investigation
4. DOJ will launch criminal and counterintelligence investigations and prosecutions into Republican members of congress, including McConnell, Graham, Burr, Loefler, and Purdue.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)uponit7771
(92,142 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But I do know that I don't know and I don't assume the fact that I don't know means that they don't know what they're doing ...
uponit7771
(92,142 posts)... There's little they can do right now to express to America in no uncertain terms they don't have a damn about majority anything including keeping chair seats in the senate with at minimum a threat of a filibuster on senate organization rules.
This is ... damn
onethatcares
(16,627 posts)how correct I hope you are with your predictions.From the all of my heart. I'm so tired of our democracy being treated like a crime family.
Thank you.
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)It's easy to sit around on computers demanding that people "DO it right effing NOW!" - especially when they don't have a clue how any of this works.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)servermsh
(1,406 posts)You know that.
The other action, I would guess, is taking the vote straight to the full Senate.
Or are you asserting that Durbin can call the committee into action for a hearing?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I'm challenging the mischaracterization of Durbin's approach as "asking" Graham to do anything as if he's kowtowing to him. As you said, Durbin didn't ask Graham. He told him what he's planning to do if Graham doesn't hold a hearing.
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Yep. If Graham chooses not to have a hearing, because Graham is in control of the committee. On February 1st, 2021.
Please note Schumer (and Maddow, etc.) loudly proclaimed LAST WEEK that this impasse was all over. Yet, there has been no vote on the organizing resolution. And we, the public, have not yet been able to read the organizing resolution.
Kaleva
(38,777 posts)An excerpt from an article published last week:
"“There has been notable progress in my discussions with the Republican leader,” Schumer said Tuesday, adding that “we’re finally able to get the Senate up and running.”
Though Schumer has control over what goes to the Senate floor, Democrats will not take control of committees where lawmakers start the legislative and nominations processes until the chamber passes a resolution setting guidelines. Generally, the Senate approves the measure through unanimous consent, giving McConnell the power to stall it."
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/senate-filibuster-schumer-mcconnell-near-power-sharing-deal.html
Could you provide a link to a story from last week where Schumer loudly claimed the impasse was all over?
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Rachel, DU, DailyKos, etc. all erupted with the glorious news that the impasse was over. People here on DU even chided those who had criticized Schumer for taking so long! LOL.
1/3rd of the Senator's terms end on January 3rd two years from now. The incident with Leahy shows we can lose the Senate at any moment. We can't waste this time!
Kaleva
(38,777 posts)This is what you claimed in post 26:
"Please note Schumer (and Maddow, etc.) loudly proclaimed LAST WEEK that this impasse was all over. "
If true, a link out to be very easy to produce.
Your reply to me in post #29 doesn't even mention Schumer.
The NYT headline is literally this:
Schumer's spokesperson says:
That means it's over!
If all of these articles were so incredibly wrong, why didn't Schumer release a statement correcting them?
EDIT: With link!
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/us/politics/an-impasse-ends-in-the-senate-as-democrats-win-a-filibuster-battle.html
Kaleva
(38,777 posts)As your links show.
Nothing personal against you but I, and others, are just saying you ought to chill and let our leaders in the Senate take care of things. I, and many others, have the utmost confidence in them doing so.
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Kaleva
(38,777 posts)This is what you said in post #26:
"Please note Schumer (and Maddow, etc.) loudly proclaimed LAST WEEK that this impasse was all over. Yet, there has been no vote on the organizing resolution. "
In an earlier post, I provided you with a link where Schumer was quoted last week as saying progress was made and he was talking about the organizing resolution.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Kaleva
(38,777 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)the filibuster demand.
It sounds like you're new to this - I bet you never before read an organizing resolution before it was passed (or after, for that matter).
Why do you feel that the public needs to read an organizing resolution right now?
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Why now? Because 1/3rd of the Senator's terms ends on January 3rd two years from now. That's a hard deadline. We've already lost almost one month of time since January 3rd, 2021.
Did you not see Leahy go to the hospital? We could lose the Senate at any time. And Mitch won't wait more than a week to turn things around. He'd would just do it!
We have judgeships to fill. I want the Senate moving forward with the same speed that Mitch accomplished. That's another reason for "why now?"
I cannot understand this reflexive defensiveness. It is a fact that today is February 1st and we've lost almost a month of time. Mitch is laughing.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Would you contribute to or speed up the process in any way if you had an organizing resolution in hand?
Do you think the fact that you haven't seen an organizing resolution means Schumer and the Democrats are doing something wrong?
If so, what exactly should they be doing instead? Please be specific. And "they need to fight harder!" or "they need to force through an organizing resolution now!" aren't answers.
Please detail the specific strategy you propose Schumer use within the rules to get an organizing resolution passed right now - this will require you share with us the inside knowledge that you have about precisely how every one of the 50 Democrats plan to vote, in addition to detailing how you would use the rules to get the resolution onto the floor and passed on the time schedule you're insisting on.
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Why does Schumer need 50 Democratic votes? Are the Republicans still objecting to something in the OR?! Because that is not in the news anywhere! If Republicans are objecting, why did Schumer's spokesman say Mitch "threw in the towel"?
Could we get the OR passed at least as fast as Mitch installed a justice on the Supreme Court?!?!?
To answer your main question: The publishing of the OR would be a step towards giving the public confidence that they are about to vote on it (just like with normal legislation).
servermsh
(1,406 posts)Anyone reading the NYT article I linked above (or almost any other article) would get the message that the impasse was over.
The NYT headline literally said the impasse had ended. LOL.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You claimed "Schumer (and Maddow, etc.) loudly proclaimed LAST WEEK that this impasse was all over."
Schumer never made such a claim. The New York Times headline did.
If you're going to attack Schumer, at least make the effort to be accurate.
msfiddlestix
(7,946 posts)I'm freaking pissed off about what's happened after we won.
elleng
(137,458 posts)“Although I hope we can proceed in a bipartisan fashion, I am prepared to take other steps to expedite the Senate’s consideration of Judge Garland’s nomination should his hearing not go forward on February 8,”
@SenatorDurbin
says. 2/2
choie
(4,837 posts)he's in the damn minority - he's not the chair of the Judiciary committee anymore.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)"Ask" was language the OP used. It's not accurate