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Nexus2

(1,261 posts)
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 01:54 PM Jun 2021

Judge Rules for Florida on CDC Order Blocking Cruise Ships

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) — A federal judge on Friday ruled for Florida in a lawsuit challenging a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention order making it difficult for cruise ships to resume sailing due to the coronavirus pandemic.

U.S. District Judge Steven Merryday wrote in a 124-page decision that Florida would be harmed if the CDC order, which the state said effectively blocked most cruises, were to continue.

The Tampa-based judge granted a preliminary injunction that prevents the CDC from enforcing the order pending further legal action on a broader Florida lawsuit.


https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-06-18/judge-rules-for-florida-on-cdc-order-blocking-cruise-ships

I'm not sure what to say. O.o It feels like a repeat of year ago in the making.
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mitch96

(15,655 posts)
8. RhondaSantiz and the Fla legislture does not care about health, just tourist $$$$$$$..
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jun 2021

I suppose Norwegian Caribbean could pull out of the state but you KNOW Fla would make it a bitch to get back in.. This would only work if ALL the cruise ships required proof of vaccination. That would be a problem for DeSatin.. ymmv
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Yup. I'd toyed around with the possibility of a cruise with vaccination
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 04:11 PM
Jun 2021

required, as nice change from 2020, but no. Cruise lines that do require vaccination will likely be priced to reflect it.

Who on earth's going to go on noncompliant ships with the Delta variant sweeping the nation and even vaccinated people running a real risk of illness trapped with carriers on a ship that isn't allowed into any ports?

Noticed Royal Caribbean has a trial ship going out of Miami this evening. 600 volunteer crew, 95+ or more vaccinated, in accordance with CDC requirement. The alternative requirement was 95% vaccinated passengers and crew.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
3. So Florida would be harmed, eh?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jun 2021


What about the people who are trying to stay safe??

*smh*

SWBTATTReg

(26,039 posts)
4. The more important question and I think that the state of FL (or the idiots in the governor's ...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jun 2021

office) aren't asking themselves this, is will anyone even bother to come? I kind of think that a lot of them won't, why put themselves at risk? Idiots. A lot of states are going to find out that the US traveling public isn't really terribly interested in traveling too awful much yet, maybe some will, but IMHO, not near as many as before will travel now, until things get even more better.

I know in MO, they have been running ads for tourists to come to MO, e.g., the Branson / Silver Dollar City / other locations have all been running tourist ads, and I imagine a lot of the states have been running tourism ads/offering rebates on some of the travel expenses, etc. in trying to get tourists back.

Getting tourism restarted is going to be difficult, especially when a state rules that vaccine visas are illegal, that businesses are not to use these...if a state outlaws a method of protecting myself (via vaccine visas), they are out of the picture period, in my family/friends and / or I traveling to FL that outlaws me in determining how safe it is to travel somewhere.

PortTack

(35,815 posts)
6. Those are good points. I know as much as I would like to be traveling, I'm not
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jun 2021

Not sure about the cultists...if they are too wrapped up in their crap to care about going to anything than a cult rally or event.

I would hope the cruise ships would just say no, we are not opening up if they can’t ask for proof of vaccination. The money and the reputation they lost initially, why would they set themselves up for a repeat. I did read a cruise ship had to be quarantined due to staff having come down with covid. For me, I just can’t imagine being packed in on a huge ship with up to 30-50% of ppl being unvaccinated

SWBTATTReg

(26,039 posts)
7. I agree w/ you totally. Funny thing, the 'cultists' you mention, I suspect that they and the
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 02:50 PM
Jun 2021

geographical areas they come from are going to be suffering severe outbreaks of the new type of covid 19, so they're going to be busy trying to stay alive, not be too interested in traveling (IMHO)...

Take care and be safe my friend...

KentuckyWoman

(7,365 posts)
11. US National and state parks with campgrounds are packed.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jun 2021

Hotels ... not so much. Even as far as national parks - you'll find visitors to some of the lesser well known areas of the major parks - or lesser visited parks previously, are gaining share.

Even with typical vacations there's a shift in the works. For instance Myrtle Beach proper is doing fine, but it is possible to find a room - normally that's mighty difficult. On the flip side, beachfront area north and south of Myrtle Beach, mostly residential, have the VRBO / AirBnB listings booked out all summer.

The pandemic changed people's priorities regarding what they are willing to put up with in order to travel. It isn't just the disease risk, it is also the hassle level.

Branson area is particularly geared to big tour buses and crowds. I believe you'll find people generally have less tolerance for that as a "vacation" and it will shift to less crowded pursuits.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
9. One of the first understandable actions this state has taken...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jun 2021

In a long time.

I hope the cruise lines make a similar argument against the State of Florida.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
12. You'd have to be out of your mind to take an "unvaccinated" cruise right now
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jun 2021

Sounds like it will be a disaster!

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