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MineralMan

(147,990 posts)
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:38 AM Oct 2021

Cheapest New EVs Available in the US Market - Would you buy one?

https://electrek.co/2021/10/20/the-cheapest-electric-vehicles-available-in-2021-2022/

Starting with the 2022 Nissan Leaf, starting at $27,400 before any rebates, and maybe $20,000 with rebate, this article lists the cheapest available new EVs sold in the USA that can be used anywhere in the country.


Some other, less expensive, low speed EVs are also listed in the article, but this poll is only about the ones you can use anywhere and on any roads, including Interstate highways.

So, could you or would you buy one of these?
32 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
I could, and would.
5 (16%)
I could, but would not at this time.
4 (13%)
I could not afford one on my income, so no.
2 (6%)
I could not afford to buy any new car available at this time, so no.
6 (19%)
I would not buy an EV at any price at this time, so no.
4 (13%)
I would not buy any EV with less than a 300 mile range, so no.
6 (19%)
Other, and here's why.
3 (9%)
This is a stupid poll.
2 (6%)
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Cheapest New EVs Available in the US Market - Would you buy one? (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2021 OP
New cars not in my budget in any forseeable future... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #1
Our next car will be electric or hybrid Freddie Oct 2021 #2
Same with us. phylny Oct 2021 #32
If I could afford a new car I would buy a Leaf. halfulglas Oct 2021 #3
I don't intend to own any car after 2022. Right now I have 2. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #4
I need a truck, MuseRider Oct 2021 #5
You're right, I think people Elessar Zappa Oct 2021 #6
I wish they would MuseRider Oct 2021 #7
Ford F-150 EV Deep State Witch Oct 2021 #16
Price? Chuuku Davis Oct 2021 #19
Exactly. MuseRider Oct 2021 #29
Not near enough MuseRider Oct 2021 #28
I'm eying a plug in hybrid of some kind. MLAA Oct 2021 #8
A used late-Model Volt might work for you caraher Oct 2021 #53
Thanks! I will check them out 🙂 MLAA Oct 2021 #54
I bought a new car once when I was young and full of myself. hunter Oct 2021 #9
We buy new Kia Optimas with lifetime warranties. marie999 Oct 2021 #30
The jury is still out... essaynnc Oct 2021 #10
absent from this posting is the new Ford Maverick Hybrid pick-up truck RicROC Oct 2021 #11
It needs to go from my house all the way across Glacier Park, Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #12
Love my EV hurl Oct 2021 #13
The government should offer free trade-ins for our gas guzzlers Polybius Oct 2021 #14
That will not be happening. MineralMan Oct 2021 #18
I agree Polybius Oct 2021 #25
Yeah, but it's an unrealistic idea. MineralMan Oct 2021 #26
Probably in the next few years Deep State Witch Oct 2021 #15
I bought the last model year of the Chevy Volt in 2019, so I'm not going to be in the market... Silent3 Oct 2021 #17
Only American and Union made. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #20
My next vehicle will be electric. I'd have to look at the safety ratings. gldstwmn Oct 2021 #21
Issue is not the cost of the vehicle... brooklynite Oct 2021 #22
Cost is a huge is a huge issue if you can't afford a new car. MineralMan Oct 2021 #31
In which case its irrelevant because you won't by a car using any power system brooklynite Oct 2021 #35
A NEW car. MineralMan Oct 2021 #39
Assuming you are in NYC, there's lots of fast charging in the Northeast tinrobot Oct 2021 #41
The Tesla network covers most of the country. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #58
I drive my car within a 15 mile radius of my house Cairycat Oct 2021 #23
EV's go much faster than 50 mph. They are cars, not toys for children. The fastest zero to 60 Celerity Oct 2021 #44
Yes, my husband has learned to brace MissB Oct 2021 #51
My wife and I were just talking about that this morning. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #24
I have an electric bicycle that I ride into town to take care of Roisin Ni Fiachra Oct 2021 #27
I live where I park in a lot. Can't charge. KentuckyWoman Oct 2021 #33
I would but my 2004 VW Golf TDI roody Oct 2021 #34
We sold off our GTI last year after 17 years (only 55,000 miles) and bought a new one... brooklynite Oct 2021 #36
Same with my 2011 MINI COOPER with only 68,000 miles. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2021 #55
Give me a 500-mile range, and a 15 minute capacity for full charge, and bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #38
Those people are irrelevant to this. MineralMan Oct 2021 #40
I've leased/purchased 4 EVs in the past 10 years. tinrobot Oct 2021 #42
Unfortunately the cost to upgrade my house is too much. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #43
Huh? You just need a dryer plug. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #57
Wow! hamsterjill Oct 2021 #59
No, I had a licensed electrician install Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #60
A good friend has the Nissan Leaf, a 2019 model NickB79 Oct 2021 #45
It's best to not buy cars Ron Green Oct 2021 #46
Do not live in the US, but our next auto will be an EV. Celerity Oct 2021 #47
I didn't realize that the tax break still existed dsc Oct 2021 #48
By coincidence, I purchased a car just a few months ago in that price range. Dial H For Hero Oct 2021 #49
I don't need a car living in the middle of a city. smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #50
Seriously considering an EV; just got rid of my jalopy and the wife's car is old too. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #52
Funnily enough I am in the process of getting a new car Dorian Gray Oct 2021 #56
I just bought a hybrid suv. Very pleased dsp3000 Oct 2021 #61

Wounded Bear

(60,847 posts)
1. New cars not in my budget in any forseeable future...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:41 AM
Oct 2021

in addition, as an apartment dweller charging would definitely be an issue.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
3. If I could afford a new car I would buy a Leaf.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:48 AM
Oct 2021

One of the Lyft drivers I used a few months ago was on his second one. He bought his first used and went for a new one one after hundreds of thousands of miles on the used one. He claimed it was the most reliable car he had ever used and given all the free chargers in the Baltimore city area it was the most inexpensive for business. He has some normal maintenance expenses but hasn't spent a thing for fuel.

MuseRider

(34,408 posts)
5. I need a truck,
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:17 AM
Oct 2021

an actual, workable, heavy load FARM truck. Not a tiny truck, I need to pull a 3 horse, slant load trailer with a fifth wheel. I have yet to see an EV like that. Sadly mine is an old, loud diesel truck with a Cummins engine but it pulls anything I am likely to need.

I would gladly buy a car to drive but really, we cannot afford another car at the moment and whatever it is needs to be able to stand up to miles of gravel roads. Those roads took out my Smart Car in only 2 years (it was already really old for Smart in this country).

Elessar Zappa

(16,082 posts)
6. You're right, I think people
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:19 AM
Oct 2021

with needs like yours are going to be using gas engines for the foreseeable future. EV’s just aren’t up to the task yet.

MuseRider

(34,408 posts)
7. I wish they would
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:25 AM
Oct 2021

get up to that but when they do they will most likely be unaffordable for most people. I will be done with all of this by then. At that point EV is the only way to go and should be.

EDIT: I should also add that I do not drive that truck any more that is absolutely necessary.

Deep State Witch

(11,364 posts)
16. Ford F-150 EV
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:14 PM
Oct 2021

Rachel Maddow has done stories on the Ford F-150 electric on her show. It's apparently pretty impressive, and has good towing capacity.

MuseRider

(34,408 posts)
29. Exactly.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 03:16 PM
Oct 2021

My truck is old, it has Kucinich stickers on it . It is nothing fancy at all but to buy one like that now, no way.

MuseRider

(34,408 posts)
28. Not near enough
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 03:14 PM
Oct 2021

to tow a trailer that size with 3 horses in it. That is a city truck or a country truck if you hire out your work, most likely the situation Rachel would find herself in.

MLAA

(18,676 posts)
8. I'm eying a plug in hybrid of some kind.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:47 AM
Oct 2021

Hoping for one that is all electric for 50 miles or so and then hybrid gas kicks in. I do so little driving around town I’d easily stay with in the pure electric range but could use gas for the rare long outing.

caraher

(6,314 posts)
53. A used late-Model Volt might work for you
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:15 PM
Oct 2021

I have a 2013 I bought certified pre-owned and get 30-40 miles electric range (it's lower in cold weather). Later models had more range

hunter

(39,060 posts)
9. I bought a new car once when I was young and full of myself.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:50 AM
Oct 2021

I won't do that again.

It lasted long enough that our children learned how to drive in it and frequently borrowed it in college.

I gave it away when they bought their own cars.


 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
30. We buy new Kia Optimas with lifetime warranties.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 03:16 PM
Oct 2021

We just gave away our 09 with 174 thousand miles on it to our grandson it doesn't have the warranty for a second owner so he will just run it into the ground and then junk it. We own a 2015 with 76,000 and a 2021 with 6,000 miles. Those will probably be our last cars.

essaynnc

(873 posts)
10. The jury is still out...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:53 AM
Oct 2021

But I think, albeit not backed up by science, that driving my older car until it drops is better for the environment.

Please, somebody show me some real data, and I'd reconsider my position !!

I would by an electric car for my daily tooling around. Obviously have to have plan b for a vacation or a visit drive...

RicROC

(1,230 posts)
11. absent from this posting is the new Ford Maverick Hybrid pick-up truck
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:57 AM
Oct 2021

I just read about it and it really interests me when I need to ditch my Chevy Volt.
Base price is under $20,000 which makes it the cheapest hybrid vehicle on the US market.

Maru Kitteh

(29,233 posts)
12. It needs to go from my house all the way across Glacier Park,
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 11:59 AM
Oct 2021

do some driving around and bring me home again - otherwise I'll wait. They'll get there.

hurl

(989 posts)
13. Love my EV
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:00 PM
Oct 2021

I bought a Chevy Bolt a couple of years ago and love it. The best part is how low-maintenance EVs are. Besides tire rotations, the first scheduled service is 150k miles to change out the battery coolant. When you use '1-pedal driving' and rely on regeneration to slow the car, you almost never have to use the break, so even those don't wear much. Just this week I had to drop $1k for a water pump on my emergency backup ICE car.

Polybius

(18,368 posts)
14. The government should offer free trade-ins for our gas guzzlers
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
Oct 2021

Maybe make it free for those of us making under $50,000 a year.

MineralMan

(147,990 posts)
26. Yeah, but it's an unrealistic idea.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:38 PM
Oct 2021

We need some equally great ideas that can actually be implemented, I think.

For me, helping people become solvent and independent, so they can make decisions that help them do even better should be the goal. And that's not a simple idea, but it's an idea that could actually improve everything for everyone.

We have too many economic layers in our society, it seems to me. I'd like the number of layers to be reduced, eliminating the obscene wealth of top layers while simultaneously eliminating the bottom, desperate layers by redistributing that wealth. The middle layers will take care of themselves if we do that.

However, I have no freaking idea how that could be accomplished. I'm just not that smart, nor do I have a platform to make anything happen. So...

Deep State Witch

(11,364 posts)
15. Probably in the next few years
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:12 PM
Oct 2021

We just sold my husband's hybrid Sonata to CarMax, because we're both working from home and don't need 2 cars. We kept my Santa Fe SUV because of the cargo capacity. Our next one will probably be a hybrid or electric SUV.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
17. I bought the last model year of the Chevy Volt in 2019, so I'm not going to be in the market...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:27 PM
Oct 2021

...for a new car anytime soon.

That said, I'm hoping that by time I'm ready to replace the Volt there will be a lot more long range (300+ miles) options at more affordable prices.

At present I'm much happier having a PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle) than a fully-electric car. I drive 95% EV, but I feel much better having a gasoline-powered extended range.

I've also learned, living in New England, how much winter coldness drops electric range. A nominal 300-mile EV range will be more like 180 for much of the winter.

I'd really love it if graphene-aluminum battery tech is in full swing by time I want to buy a new car.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
22. Issue is not the cost of the vehicle...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:54 PM
Oct 2021

Issue is the lack of substantial charging facilities sufficient to support long-range driving.

It would be less problematic if I ONLY drove locally and there were local charging resources (still in limited supply in NYC).

MineralMan

(147,990 posts)
31. Cost is a huge is a huge issue if you can't afford a new car.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:37 PM
Oct 2021

Then, it's the only issue.

MineralMan

(147,990 posts)
39. A NEW car.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:28 PM
Oct 2021

People still buy cars. Even $1000 can get you a car that runs, drives, and stops. A $4-5000 car can last for years, if you choose well.

tinrobot

(11,474 posts)
41. Assuming you are in NYC, there's lots of fast charging in the Northeast
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:30 PM
Oct 2021

You should be good for most drives in a modern EV with a 200+ mile range

And fast charging has been more than doubling every year. That trend will continue.

Cairycat

(1,768 posts)
23. I drive my car within a 15 mile radius of my house
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 01:59 PM
Oct 2021

so an NEV might work, but I'd need to be able to go more than 25 mph. If that were pushed up to 50 mph or so, that would work well for me and be affordable.

Celerity

(46,866 posts)
44. EV's go much faster than 50 mph. They are cars, not toys for children. The fastest zero to 60
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:48 PM
Oct 2021

auto (regular production) on the planet is the Tesla Roadster at 1.9 seconds. They are supposedly going to offer a SpaceX boostered version that does zero to 60 mph in 1.1 seconds.

Jedi Guy

(3,320 posts)
24. My wife and I were just talking about that this morning.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

We're halfway through the note on our current car and intend to drive it until it's no longer drivable, but when the time comes we're definitely going to look into an EV, or at the very least a hybrid. Her commute to work, round trip, is roughly 35 miles, so easily done in an EV. Just makes more sense all the way around.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
27. I have an electric bicycle that I ride into town to take care of
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 03:11 PM
Oct 2021

library, post office, most of my grocery and hardware shopping, doctor visits, etc.

Love my electric bike.

I live in a rural area, and avoid cities when traveling, so the amount of miles I can drive per charge on an electric vehicle is too low, because of the number of charging stations available, and the number of hours required to charge the batteries.

KentuckyWoman

(6,891 posts)
33. I live where I park in a lot. Can't charge.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 05:48 PM
Oct 2021

I drive a hybrid and like it. It is my hope I will never need to buy another vehicle.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
36. We sold off our GTI last year after 17 years (only 55,000 miles) and bought a new one...
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 06:54 PM
Oct 2021

…($38,000) so, no hurry.

bullwinkle428

(20,643 posts)
37. Give me a 500-mile range, and a 15 minute capacity for full charge, and
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:06 PM
Oct 2021

we can talk.

I make a few 700-mile trips per year to visit my elderly mother, and that would be the primary reason for my "demand". I do it presently with a 42-44 mpg gas-powered car, so I'm keeping relatively efficient as it is.

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

tinrobot

(11,474 posts)
42. I've leased/purchased 4 EVs in the past 10 years.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:36 PM
Oct 2021

Wouldn't go back to gas if you paid me.

My current EV is a VW ID.4. Great all-around SUV and reasonably priced. I've already done some long road trips in it, and it's performed flawlessly.

Our EV future is already here, the technology is good enough. People just need to come around to that fact.

hamsterjill

(15,525 posts)
43. Unfortunately the cost to upgrade my house is too much.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 07:37 PM
Oct 2021

To be able to charge it in my garage is too expensive unfortunately. It would take massive modifications to my home’s electrical layout. I wish that would be considered in the push to get EV’s on the road. I’m all for them.

Voltaire2

(14,878 posts)
57. Huh? You just need a dryer plug.
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 06:45 AM
Oct 2021

No massive upgrade. An electrician can run a line to your garage for 500-1000 or so depending on how long the run is.

hamsterjill

(15,525 posts)
59. Wow!
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 07:03 AM
Oct 2021

So you’re a licensed electrician and willing to do it for $500? Well, come on down!!

The quote I got was for much more. Guess I’m being bamboozled.

Voltaire2

(14,878 posts)
60. No, I had a licensed electrician install
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:31 AM
Oct 2021

a 10-30 dryer plug with a sizable run for 600. I got several quotes. One was nearly 3x what I paid.

NickB79

(19,663 posts)
45. A good friend has the Nissan Leaf, a 2019 model
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 08:56 PM
Oct 2021

She drives from the Twin Cities to Wisconsin frequently to see family.

She said she's selling it as soon as she can due to it's poor range, and replacing it with an EV with at least 300 miles of range.

Celerity

(46,866 posts)
47. Do not live in the US, but our next auto will be an EV.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 09:34 PM
Oct 2021

Likely we stick with Porsche (we have a petrol Cayenne ATM, love it), but open to others, especially Tesla and Mercedes.

dsc

(52,694 posts)
48. I didn't realize that the tax break still existed
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:04 PM
Oct 2021

it might have made a difference for me. But that said, I recently (May) but a Kia K5 which I love and gets 40 mpg on the highway. I need a car with range for my trips to Ohio. This is the first foreign car I have ever bought, but US sedans were more expensive for less features. I have a 100k warranty (10 years but I am more likely to hit the miles first). My next car, which will be in several years barring bad luck, might be electric.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
49. By coincidence, I purchased a car just a few months ago in that price range.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:05 PM
Oct 2021

2007 Porsche Boxster S. Bit of a different driving experience than the Leaf.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
50. I don't need a car living in the middle of a city.
Sat Oct 30, 2021, 10:11 PM
Oct 2021

Also I don't drive. I did at one time, but I am much too nervous and just stopped driving back in my early 20's. Don't miss it.

Dorian Gray

(13,736 posts)
56. Funnily enough I am in the process of getting a new car
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 06:34 AM
Oct 2021

I just put an order in to lease a new car when my current lease runs out.

Since I live in NYC, I've opted not to go EV yet. The infrastructure isn't there. I don't have a dedicated place to charge my car at my home... I'd need a dedicated driveway to do so. And the infrastructure isn't here yet. Maybe in three years when my lease runs out, it'll be more of an option.

They are starting to install chargers on the streets nearby. Prospect Park West has a few. Whole Foods has one.

But I use it mostly for local errands or road trips. And the charging factor isn't as comfortable to me as I'd like at this point. I'd need to feel more confident about my ability to pull over and find a dedicated EV charging station before I put all my eggs into that basket.

dsp3000

(647 posts)
61. I just bought a hybrid suv. Very pleased
Sun Oct 31, 2021, 08:38 AM
Oct 2021

I bought a 2017 mdx hybrid used for 30k. It's not an ev but it gets me 27 mpg with city driving, which is great for a 3 row suv. I also enjoy driving so I appreciate that it handles well and can haul ass when I need it to.

If you aren't ready to go full ev yet, there are great hybrid and plug in hybrid options out there and some are very affordable

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