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(10,919 posts)and probably not realized by most people
rubbersole
(9,016 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)brush
(58,662 posts)that they hurt themselves with such votes?
In 15 years it's said that the US will be a majority minority nation as whites will no longer be over 50% of the population. And it will continue to go down as POCs tend to have more babies.
Maybe then some will realize we're all in the same boat and what's good for the majority is good for them too.
gulliver
(13,341 posts)It's simply stupid not to be inclusive in this day and age, even if you leave aside that it shows poor character.
There's something I call "unintended unselfishness," that I think Republicans (especially) practice. That's when you think you're being selfish and "smart," but you are actually being effectively unselfish. It's the worst of both worlds. You're showing low character and foolishness in the present, and you are also inadvertently and unavoidably setting yourself up to take a lifestyle reduction in the future.
brush
(58,662 posts)LiberalArkie
(17,167 posts)SunSeeker
(54,383 posts)usonian
(15,525 posts)crickets
(26,158 posts)Copying and pasting the text takes seconds, and is a good idea anyway in case a controversial tweet is deleted. Here you go:
@JLCauvin
"Big government" won over white Americans under FDR because it was good, necessary and excluded Black people.
"Big government" lost the majority of white Americans (forever?) since 1965 despite the fact that it was good & necessary because it included Black people.
10:28 AM · Jul 3, 2022
usonian
(15,525 posts)And when I go to twitter, they must load megabytes of javascript (I didn't measure) just to deliver a few lines or text.
I hate the internet as hellified by Dorsey, Page and Brin, Zuck and others.
mountain grammy
(27,479 posts)seldom post tweets, but will try to remember that next time.
crickets
(26,158 posts)Schmice3
(300 posts)Biophilic
(5,198 posts)So much shifting so fast, so many truths finally being spoken out loud.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)This is a CATO talking point and generally false. While there was discrimination by local authorities. Low cost housing and educational opportunities was beneficial. FDR issued Executive Order 8802 Fair Employment Practices Committee.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)I'm from people who thought Roosevelt was a golden god. They did their BLM soul-searching in the 30's and my take, 30 years later is that they didn't think a world where your value was determined by your skin color or who your parents were was anything but just plain wrong, morally. They hated Republicans without a moment's hesitation because they saw clearly how close to solution were the nation's problems, but that Republicans sat squarely in the path, an impediment to progress.
mountain grammy
(27,479 posts)which was what many Black Americans did.. they were left out of Social Security for decades.
Why would this be a CATO talking point when it is generally true? I'm really curious, do you have a link for that?
Yes there are nuances and many in FDR's administration advocated for African Americans, his own wife being one of the loudest, but the New Deal mainly helped white people, that's a fact. but it's important to know that wasn't the intention, it was just the result.
Here's Social Security's explanation and statistics: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n4/v70n4p49.html
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Go to their website you will find easy enough. As stated before helped black people. It took a long time for agriculture to be unionized also. It is still the most dangerous jobs with little to no regulation. This post with large government arguments is straight from RW play book along with being devisive.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)relayerbob
(7,092 posts)The far right has NEVER supported big government, and it was successful in the 1940s and 50s because of the Depression and WW2 and the rebuilding of the country and world after that, especially the perceived need for nuclear weapons and a strong military. There was also more social coheion, which the far right hates, since they know that the main method for gaining power is social chaos (hence why Putinand his supporters in the GQP have been pushing it so much harder over the last decade). Certainly the Civil Rights Act and other 1960s social events had an impact, but that was not the driving factor.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)no matter how strong, important and glorious is totally dependent on its foundation. All its aspects, the perfections and imperfections, are reflected up even to the roof.
relayerbob
(7,092 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(157,324 posts)BaronChocula
(2,535 posts)I try to explain this to anyone that will halfway listen. This explains how Ronald Reagan went from a Big Government lovin' New Dealer to anti-Big Government crusader. And he did it using race-centric dog whistles (welfare queen on Chicago's Southside and strong buck waiting in line to pay for a T-bone with food stamps) Reagan was utterly disgusting.
sop
(12,301 posts)their commitment to democracy." A paper by political scientists Steven V. Miller and Nicholas T. Davis, "White Outgroup Intolerance and Declining Support for American Democracy," found a correlation between white Americans intolerance and support for authoritarian rule.
question everything
(49,461 posts)Main difference: "Social Media" and 24 hours news and information.
May have been John Dean who recently said that had Fox been around during Watergate Nixon would have held the office until Jan 20, 1977.