Unless one is for censorship then maybe they will not allow them,
Are your posting questioned ?

“accomplish” something.

various opinions.

with their post.

They have not yet responded.

I understand that a discussion board is meant to facilitate discussion.

about how Donald Fucking Trump seems to NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE and is comfortable enough to RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN

Thank you.

Fitzmas is the name given by some liberal American bloggers to the atmosphere of excitement and anticipation primarily among Democrats and some others preceding the announcement of results of Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation of the Plame affair.

I'm wondering why the OP didn't explain what it is. As another poster downthread explained, the OP wasn't even around here at that time. IMHO, it is an outdated and irrelevant term that does not apply in today's environment.

…that our legal system is terrible at holding the rich, the powerful, and the well-connected to account.

Yes, it’s a different time now, but the burden of proof is on those expressing faith that “this time will be different!”, and not on those who feel fairly confident Lucy will yank the football away from Charlie Brown again.

...with so much actually happening right in front of us.

It must be getting exhausting for them trying to shoot all of the developments in these prosecutions down.

But we've seen plenty happening "right in front of us" before, and in the end, either no indictments at all, or a slap on the wrist.

Only indictments and convictions of top-level conspirators will be proof that things have changed. I hope they have. I'm not as absolutely certain as the OP that nothing will happen, but I am highly skeptical.

One thing I can already be sure of: The pace has already been too slow to provide substantial deterrence value to future would-be coup plotters.

Those who attempt to overthrow the government of the United States should be afraid that the response to such actions will come down on them like a ton of bricks, not a slow-motion flurry of paperwork.

The response should be more like pursuing an active serial killer -- they still get due process, but if they're taken in alive, they are likely jailed while awaiting trial, and the process moves much more quickly.

...you haven't seen any of them.

Not because they don't exist, because you're likely not even looking. If you start with the proposition that nothing will happen, it frees you to ignore anything that actually does.

And downplaying the justice metted out to rioters and foot soldiers betrays a profound misunderstanding of the scope and direction of this investigation.

No, I'm not interested in explaining much more than that to someone expressing such definitive cynicism about the DOJ probe.

I read the news. I watch the news. I read a lot of what is posted about the investigations here on DU, including all that is posted by those breathlessly excited that yet another development must have Trump quaking in his boots.

I do not "start with the proposition that nothing will happen". I do, however, learn from history, and the history of such matters does not inspire confidence.

You also failed to address what I said about lost deterrence value. That ship has sailed. Trump being tossed in jail tomorrow wouldn't fix that.

This failure to hold elites to account has a long history through all administrations.

I personally am sick of Fitzmas and Mueller Time happening over and over again. It is like a very unfunny Groundhogs Day.

Get your hopes up that justice will prevail and them Betty pulls the football away right before you try to kick it

I think I mixed up a justice story with Charlie Brown but whatever

That spread across the liberal blogosphere at the time. Even has an urban dictionary entry:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fitzmas

And an etymology:

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002604.html

And in remembering this, I just remembered that Daily Kos exists. That's been a minute.

...either you get it or you don't.

I don't really care anymore.

The mocking of people expecting justice is something I'll never support, or believe comes with any actual concern for justice.

I say little to nothing about Garland, juries, etc. There's no point.

But I do see overt pushing for "happy talk only" regularly. Sometimes daily. And in any place that involves discussing different opinions on things, people kind of don't like being told there's something wrong if they aren't constantly sunny, optimistic, happy thoughts only about matters that invite cynicism due to extensive experience with the American justice system.

I mean, "You aren't showing the sufficient enthusiasm we expect of loyalists!" is a very, very creepy impulse that we've seen in places we generally don't want to emulate.

It's just plain weird. I keep wondering why the people who are always taking that tack don't see it for how strange and authoritarian it is. Self-appointed enforcers are usually exactly the people you don't want attempting to browbeat others into conformity. That's just history right there.

I think everyone here wants Trump prosecuted for any crimes he has committed.

People should be happy with that. Everything else can be ignored at will.

Nailed it.

The constant attacks on anyone who disagrees, always in a voice of we know better, and you are stupid or defeatist or ignoring what is happening is weird and authoritarian like.

Some days it isn't possible to be all sunshine and roses.

Most days it isn't.

I hope for some consequences for the rich, right wing, and powerful....my expectation is that it will never happen.

If it does, I will be overjoyed.

It's a big world out there and plenty of places used it.

Post something about Will Pitt, Nadin, JackPine or the 08 or 16 primaries.

...her investigation has progressed from the Special GJ to the next step before a decision on indictments.

Mocking and taunting her is what I'd expect from the opposition at this point, at the verge of announcements on her decision. Nothing from this prosecutor has suggested in ANY way that she's unconcerned with or reluctant to proscute ANYONE.

So what's with the attacks on her?

And the AG, as well, What's the basis for attacking an ongoing investigation that's just subpoenaed at least three top Trump associates?

About “Fitzmas” and the fiasco created by Jason leopold. I’m sorry if you read anything else into my comment.

...what else is there to read into it?

Anyway...

Not sure how you see it that way.

...that would sound less ridiculous than this 'they won't do anything' nonsense.

Anyone can see for themselves that GA. is about to indict someone for perjury, and likely other crimes associated with this probe.

Talking it down won't change that.

which I did.

I don't care if YOU don't like it at all

What about the 40 plus statutes that are not being investigated ? Just a question.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/president-trumps-staggering-record-of-uncharged-crimes/#table

This is America, after all.

And without a blogosphere to whine and complain.

bragging about what they have done. Trump has confessed to some of his crimes a dozen times.

He and members of administration will do the best they can . They may or may not not succeed.

Play a strain or two of Hooked on a Feeling and I just may go Pinto shopping again.

We can expect indictments of Trump and the other heavy hitters this summer, at the latest, if we’re looking at the Watergate timeline.

That's up to people more whose guesses are louder and more profitable than mine.

I’ll sure be looking forward to early summer in that case!

Odd.

That’s one way to cope with the distress of Not Knowing What’s Going To Happen.

That is my opinion.

You opinion is almost as valid as the OP but not quite. No reason given as to why you don't like his opinion you just called him a troll. He posted his thoughts on a current event, you posted that his opinion offends you. It's a discussion board. Perhaps you should not read any opinion but your own.

This.

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until then, my assumption is that rich, white, right wingers will never be held to account.

Sure, they are giving some time to the rubes, but that's all we'll see.

If I'm wrong and someone near the top sees consequences, I will happily admit it.

But, I'm not holding my breath either.

We need to give it up, seriously, hes not going to be indicted.

Gaetz..nothing. The planners of 1/6...slaps on the wrist...charges of 'misdemeanor trespassing' instead of sedition, when they smeared shit on the Hallowed walls of the People's House of Representatives, erected a gallows, smashed windows, trashed the place, and even KILLED a police officer. Had this ACTUALLY have been minority people, there'd be major arrests and major felonies instead of this kit glove, slow walking bullshit response we're getting now