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ariesgem

(1,635 posts)
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 01:29 PM Aug 2023

Black Security guard jumped by several white people who refused to move their boat.

Several folks then jumped in and came to the security guard's aid. Montgomery Alabama riverboat brawl.


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Black Security guard jumped by several white people who refused to move their boat. (Original Post) ariesgem Aug 2023 OP
Why so many links to the muskrat? sunflowerseed Aug 2023 #1
What muskrat sunflowerseed? live love laugh Aug 2023 #4
I think they're referring to the Platform formerly known as Twitter. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2023 #8
Ooohhhh ... live love laugh Aug 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author CatWoman Aug 2023 #18
Jail over moving/parking a boat, that is some smarts there! Brainfodder Aug 2023 #2
Alabama is one of THE most racist states in the US. live love laugh Aug 2023 #3
What was the outcome of this? Black people arrested and white offenders getting off? sinkingfeeling Aug 2023 #5
See links to news reports below. Fla Dem Aug 2023 #13
No, most of those arrested were Caucasian Americans. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #19
More than race going on here. Mopar151 Aug 2023 #6
Is that what was said? OneGrassRoot Aug 2023 #7
Honest questions TheProle Aug 2023 #20
Racism is insidious. intheflow Aug 2023 #27
I've been thinking about this a lot...and reading more about the incident OneGrassRoot Aug 2023 #28
Just a general comment on the MAGA mind. Mopar151 Aug 2023 #23
Go directly to jail Bayard Aug 2023 #10
Hopefully they hit the guy that started it with a riot charge. Renew Deal Aug 2023 #15
More information here. It appears the four thugs who attacked the ferry boat worker were arrested onenote Aug 2023 #11
3 News reports on Brawl Fla Dem Aug 2023 #12
This is the best narration of the even. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2023 #14
The Wrestlemania narrative ariesgem Aug 2023 #29
"Link to tweet" LOL AnrothElf Aug 2023 #16
Lots of sources for vids on this including youtube Demovictory9 Aug 2023 #22
"Link to tweet" + "Do your own YouTube research" for the win! AnrothElf Aug 2023 #24
The boat owner... SergeStorms Aug 2023 #17
The guy in gray shorts (boat owner ?) Was definitely instigator Demovictory9 Aug 2023 #21
Kick dalton99a Aug 2023 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Aug 2023 #26

A HERETIC I AM

(24,632 posts)
8. I think they're referring to the Platform formerly known as Twitter.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:59 PM
Aug 2023

You know, Elon Musk (The Muskrat)’s toy that he now calls “X”

Response to sunflowerseed (Reply #1)

live love laugh

(14,557 posts)
3. Alabama is one of THE most racist states in the US.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:05 PM
Aug 2023

My friend’s late husband was born and raised there. He vowed never to return in life because it was so racist. He never did.

maxsolomon

(35,359 posts)
19. No, most of those arrested were Caucasian Americans.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:47 PM
Aug 2023

But some African Americans were arrested for fighting as well.

Mopar151

(10,191 posts)
6. More than race going on here.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:24 PM
Aug 2023

This is the heart of MAGA - "I don't have to do what you tell me! I own you, you have no say in what I do!"
If you've ever been drinkin` with one of these "Extra Special" sumbitches, you know it does'nt matter a bit whether they've been asked to be a little bit reasonable, or told to "Git!" There's gonna be trouble, and the worst ones know all the cops!

OneGrassRoot

(23,444 posts)
7. Is that what was said?
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 02:55 PM
Aug 2023

I haven’t heard any of what’s said between the parties involved. I was wondering what the white supremacists were spouting.

TheProle

(3,097 posts)
20. Honest questions
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:50 PM
Aug 2023

I've read a few articles and watched several videos and have not seen any of the following mentioned. If anyone can provide factual info, I'd appreciate it:

1- Were there racial slurs hurled or declarations that the bad actors should be able to dock their boat there because they're white and/or the attendant(s) were black?
2- Did any of the assailants sport white supremacist tattoos or clothing?
3- Did authorities show deference to the white aggressors?

If none of the above are "yes", then we have people of different races having a fight in Alabama.

Sometimes people are just assholes.

And just so it's said: if any of the answers to the questions above are "yes" then I will fully acknowledge that fact and condemn any racial animus demonstrated.

intheflow

(29,055 posts)
27. Racism is insidious.
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 07:27 AM
Aug 2023

Would they have jumped a white guy? Maybe, but it’s far less likely. FWIW, I’ve never noticed any tats on TFG but that doesn’t mean he’s not a racist.

OneGrassRoot

(23,444 posts)
28. I've been thinking about this a lot...and reading more about the incident
Tue Aug 8, 2023, 07:48 AM
Aug 2023

Surely more will come out about the aggressors - their political leanings and such. Screenshots of FB posts and interactions, before their profiles and pages were deleted, have been circulating but I don't trust those as solid proof just yet.

That said, I no longer refer to Trumpists (who have been with us forever, long before Trump) as racists. It's more accurate to call them white supremacists, hence my use of the word.

Also, for lifelong Selma and Montgomery residents, the odds are very high that they are, in fact, white supremacists. Tattoos and clothing aren't required for such an identification. Now, I realize that you are, perhaps rightfully, going with the innocent-until-proven-guilty approach. (Edit to add: It appears that nearly all of the white people, if not all of them, are indeed lifelong residents of that area.)

I am not giving them that benefit of the doubt because white people, especially white people who have lived in Selma and Montgomery their entire lives -- white people who are allies, that is -- would know better NOT to jump a Black man like that. Inebriated or not. Allies would not pull that privilege bullshit as they did in the face of a Black man simply doing his job and a literal boat full of Black people. Inebriated or not.

I say this as someone with Alabama roots though I've lived in other parts of the country where white supremacist views are pervasive. It's not a southern thing. HOWEVER, the painful historical facts of white supremacy are so very much in everyone's face in the south that lifelong white residents who are allies would know better. Inebriated or not.

So, yeah, I'm going with the strong likelihood that they hold white supremacist views and it manifested strongly that day for us all to see. If it comes out otherwise, I will acknowledge that fact and apologize for thinking the worst of them.

Mopar151

(10,191 posts)
23. Just a general comment on the MAGA mind.
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 07:14 PM
Aug 2023

Known these dickheads my whole life. Asshole sober, on a good day, 3 Natty Daddy's and they have a good mind to kick your ass!

onenote

(44,805 posts)
11. More information here. It appears the four thugs who attacked the ferry boat worker were arrested
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 03:32 PM
Aug 2023
https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-boat-brawl-videos-what-happened-1817837

Not sure if the victim of the attack was a "security guard" or held some other position on the ferry boat that was trying to dock.

SergeStorms

(19,339 posts)
17. The boat owner...
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 04:15 PM
Aug 2023

was planning on leaving it there overnight. He has the boat cover over the boat, even the engine cover on. He wasn't just docking it there for a quick visit. 🙄

It appears the riverboat employee was pointing to other spots where docking was permitted, but......you know.....white entitlement.

At least that's my take on it, without knowing the discussion that transpired before the undoubtedly inebriated white guys started pummeling the riverboat employee.

Demovictory9

(33,968 posts)
21. The guy in gray shorts (boat owner ?) Was definitely instigator
Mon Aug 7, 2023, 05:12 PM
Aug 2023

Then next..red shorts who came flying to pike on security guard.. Then free for all.

.the black guy near end of brawl shouldnt have conked whiie woman in red dress with the.chair.. Gray shorta deserved conking because he was out of control

Near end a guy in striped shirt comes running to fight again with s3curity guard

I watched several versions of fight

Funny how people on riverboat sit at windows gawking..lol

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