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A lot of disagreement on this one, curious what the majority opinion might be here on DU.
Simple yes or no -- not gonna muddy it up with "under certain conditions"...
Which way do you lean right now?
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budkin
(6,849 posts)Debates are part of running for the presidency. Bring it.
Faux pas
(15,426 posts)I'd love to see the hump try to stage stalk Joe like he did Hillary 😉
bucolic_frolic
(47,612 posts)He will be meaner and more angry than ever.
MSM will spin both-sider theories and tell us why they are really equals.
He's destroying himself each day. Let him proceed.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,175 posts)A total waste of time on Joe's part. Joe is doing fine as it is being rational and non bombastic.
TSF suffers from Attention Deficit Syndrome. If the attention is not on him, he makes sure it is no matter how much it makes him look like a raving lunatic.
Srkdqltr
(7,777 posts)I can just hear Biden saying shut up man between laughing fits.
Are you kidding me?
Seriously, you don't believe that?
Deuxcents
(20,151 posts)He tried very hard to dismantle our system of government, its traditions and values. He deserves no respect
orangecrush
(22,131 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)...when it wasn't his turn to speak, never let him get away with that bullshit of shouting over everything Biden says, a debate would be great.
Mr.Bill
(24,871 posts)shock collar on him.
mvd
(65,531 posts)Trump would never respect the debate rules. And he would whine about who hosts, where it is, etc. I doubt it would be productive.
MartyTheGreek
(686 posts)Tom of Temecula
(1,632 posts)H2O Man
(75,779 posts)There's no gain in it.
All Mixed Up
(597 posts)It would be political suicide with how many people already question whether he's mentally fit enough to be president. If Biden refuses to debate Trump, especially through the Commission on Presidential Debates, he will only amplify that concern and there's no opportunity to walk it back because that's all the media will talk about in the weeks heading up to the election.
And it'll be entirely justified.
Just as if would be if Trump refuses to debate Biden. The quickest way Biden loses reelection is by refusing to debate.
H2O Man
(75,779 posts)Hotler
(12,390 posts)W_HAMILTON
(8,570 posts)...(case in point: the SOTU) rather than when they hear about him from biased media coverage, lots of which want to push an anti-Biden narrative for political expediency.
Furthermore, Biden will mop the floor with Trump. For all the talk about how Biden has lost a step or two, you can see that he's still sharp as hell based on recent public events, off-the-cuff remarks, etc. He will do just fine in a debate against Trump.
Trump is becoming more and more unhinged and you can tell that he is actually in a state of cognitive decline -- as usual, everything accusation from a Republican turns out to be a confession -- and he is only going to get worse and more stressed out between now and Election Day.
So, I'm all for Biden taking on Trump head-to-head and not backing down, which is how the media absolutely will portray it as if he refuses to debate him.
emulatorloo
(45,592 posts)Johonny
(22,243 posts)I don't assume Trump will actually debate. Biden should bot be seen as the one ducking a debate. Many people question Biden's stamina etc . . . A live debate basically can end all speculation about his fitness. The substance of the debate doesn't matter. It's Trump so there will be no substance. Any debate would likely finish Trump and boost Biden. Plus, I think Trump will duck the debates as he did after his disaster 4 years ago.
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orangecrush
(22,131 posts)WiVoter
(1,138 posts)Rstrstx
(1,574 posts)And Biden should tell Trump if he wants to debate he should go through the Commission on Presidential Debates, like everyone else
nevergiveup
(4,815 posts)Especially if Kristen Welker is the moderator or worse yet if it is a Fox News Debate.
canetoad
(18,263 posts)Because a 'debate' suggests a reasoned, logical argument between equals.
Deuxcents
(20,151 posts)Just misinformation and childish nicknames and no real substance on the issues. A joke that the whole world does not need to see
TBF
(34,754 posts)with court cases currently.
mnmoderatedem
(3,846 posts)why would it be any different this time around?
lame54
(37,209 posts)Deuxcents
(20,151 posts)Enquiring_Mind
(83 posts)But Joe is rising in the polls while MAGAt nation seems to be imploding, what with the trial and Johnson in trouble.
Polybius
(18,368 posts)If he doesn't, it won't look good.
lame54
(37,209 posts)All Mixed Up
(597 posts)He should not agree to debate Trump outside the Commission on Presidential Debates. Neither he or Trump can afford refusing to debate there, though. In fact, I'd wager if either refuse to debate, the one who refuses first will lose the election. There's just too much concern about both, especially in regards to their mental faculties, where refusing to debate would present a really bad narrative that they're not mentally sound enough to be president.
TheFarseer
(9,522 posts)Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Trumps whole campaign is one mistake after another. Nothing good can come of a debate where Trump will dominate the conversation with so many lies that Joe will never be able to swat them all down. It would be beyond fun to watch but just not a good idea if you want to win and if want our nation to retain a shred of dignity.
creeksneakers2
(7,611 posts)Joe has so much ammo to go after Trump with. Plus, Trump can no longer control himself. Joe will try to get under his skin and will probably succeed. When Trump loses it in front of 80 million everyone will see he's unfit. When Joe kicks Trump's butt the too old nonsense will be over. How can he be too old when he just kicked butt?
JohnSJ
(96,813 posts)wont, I would say no. It would be a circus event treated like a reality show.
No advantage in my view.
The Matt Lauer separate interviews by him of Hillary verses Trump was a disgrace. He was rude and wouldnt even let Hillary finish a question before interrupting her, while let Trump ramble on with softball questions
In other words, the MSM is motivated by hyperbole and gotcha, to attract viewers, instead of discussing actual issues affecting Americans.
Silent Type
(7,339 posts)Biden needs to show up no matter what trump does. Looking for another Oh, shut up moment.
dmr
(28,663 posts)Seriously he is not worth it, and President Biden should come right out and say why.
Then a whole contingent of Biden supporters and anti-Trumpers should join echoing the President's reasonings.
Blast the airwaves. Take control. Stop TFG and his minions from letting the liars from seizing the narrative.
ColinC
(10,954 posts)niyad
(120,675 posts)Qutzupalotl
(15,161 posts)niyad
(120,675 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,388 posts)to get Trump on a stage he doesn't control is an opportunity to remind everyone of what he really is.
I want to see Biden challenge him on policy while the entire country watches.
niyad
(120,675 posts)Trying to kill Biden, coughing on him when TRAITOR** knew he had been exposed?
ForgedCrank
(2,388 posts)Doesn't change my mind. He needs to be on stage and on display for everyone to see.
Biden needs to call him out on policy and make him respond
niyad
(120,675 posts)candidate at a debate, nor should he be legitimized in any way. President Biden, VP Harris, and their campaign staffs, are doing a very good job of calling him out. He does NOT need more free air time.
ForgedCrank
(2,388 posts)run-up needs to see both candidates in such a forum.
I'm not a fan of the so-called moderated debates, but it's what we have, and people need to see candidates for what they are. Controlled ads and press releases don't cut the mustard.
niyad
(120,675 posts)way legitimate.
Ping Tung
(1,432 posts)Boy occasionally to cause the idiot to shoot his mouth off Trump style.
Trump's mouth is Joe's best ally to win the election easily.
Emile
(30,803 posts)Why in hell give him a platform to spread more bullshit.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,074 posts)Yes, Тяцмр is an unworthy, traitorous asshole. Yes, any debate with him devolves into a blather of insults and words salad. However, the President simply cannot appear to be ducking the idiot and afraid to show up. That would be giving the dipshit an advantage he doesnt deserve. Stand up there, mock him, tout your accomplishments and challenge his insane policy ideas.
Winning a debate and showing statesmanship against that fool isnt a monumental feat. Just go in and take care of business.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)Both were put in those isolation booths like on old game shows. Mic cuts off and lights in booth dim if someone is done with their three minutes (or whatever) to answer questions/rebut.
That would cut down on the nonsense and bullying attempts from one particular side.
JHB
(37,467 posts)There may be one or more circus rings that call themselves that, but they bear no resemblance to a debate and Joe should refuse to participate in such frauds.
We have two elections' worth of debates that have demonstrated that Trump will violate any rule or agreement about terms on a whim. Hillary and Joe wiped the floor with him every single time, but as long as he got to bloviate and pose and glower and loom, his base loved it. Not a single mind was changed, nor would any this cycle.
Save the debates for when the Republicans are sane again, which may not be anytime this century.
Chipper Chat
(10,095 posts)There will be questions like
"What changes would Melanie make to the white house if you are elected?"