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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe case for Democrats to vote against a motion to vacate
And let's be clear. To vote against a motion to vacate is not the same thing as a vote for Johnson to be Speaker. That may be the end result, but voting no on the motion to vacate is a separate matter.
The motion to vacate, brought by the most radical of MAGA cultists in the U.S. House of Representatives is retribution against Mike Johnson for compromising with the Democrats and allowing a vote on bills to fund our allies in Ukraine, Israel and Tiwan. To vote with Marjorie Taylor Greene would send a horrible message in an attempt to find any compromise or consensus in the House. It's not that Johnson needs Democrats to save him, it's that MTG and other extreme MAGAts need Democrats to sink him. Democrats will decide, one way or another, on this issue. And this vote against a motion to vacate is truly a lesser of two evils (I usually hate this phrase, but in this case, it's fitting. Both sides are a different degree of evil). It is a binary choice. And I think the choice is clear. MTG is more evil than Mike Johnson.
bottomofthehill
(9,375 posts)There should be a motion to table the Greene resolution to Vacate. They only have to vote to table the resolution. It will accomplish the same goal without having to vote for Speaker Johnson
Pototan
(3,084 posts)A motion to table accomplishes the same thing. It's just worded differently and more palatable. The motion to table will receive at least 400 votes.
Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... Democrats negotiated this in exchange for the recent bills passed over MTG's objections. Probably, Dems told Johnson they would not let her do this if he negotiated the deals. To "save" him at this time shows Democrats keep their word - important in Congress. This is not a trait found in MTG.
Texin
(2,851 posts)unlike his predecessor McCarthy. They don't agree ideologically or politically, but he isn't a back-stabbing two timer. But I think they could motion (or co-sponsor) tabling MTG's MTV move.
Demsrule86
(71,541 posts)dutch777
(5,048 posts)...GOPer in all likelihood and it would be weeks if not months of mess. As much as I like to see the Repugs make fools of themselves, it does affect things like funding for Ukraine that do matter. Now if there was a way for it to go to Jeffries with SOME certainty and swiftness that would be a different discussion.
marble falls
(71,724 posts)lastlib
(28,105 posts)It will prove to the world that they're not serious about governing, that they are only serious about causing chaos. In a sense, they've already proven themselves to be fools--now it just becomes a matter of degree.
marble falls
(71,724 posts)... opening of house investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden. And now Johnson is the speaker. Johnson gets it. Compelled bipartisanship works for me if they won't come along for all the right reasons.
3Hotdogs
(15,293 posts)Johnson's replacement might go directly to Trump for guidance.
Zambero
(9,974 posts)Worshiping a false idol in the flesh floats their boat every time.
multigraincracker
(37,461 posts)Putin.
Zambero
(9,974 posts)For starters
NoMoreRepugs
(11,995 posts)Unbelievable.
no_hypocrisy
(54,808 posts)is a byproduct. 2 for 1.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Qutzupalotl
(15,795 posts)Removing Johnson or electing Jeffries until we get more Democrats and/or fewer Republicans.
Marge does not have the draw she used to. Her schtick is getting tired and she looks stupider now than even just a few months ago.