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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat will the Trump trial jury do now?
Will they all go back to their normal routines and fade into history?
Go the talk show circuit, podcasts, etc?
Will they write books?
Become famous?
Become targets for MAGA?
Can the judge control any of this?
C_U_L8R
(45,760 posts)They did the right thing.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)bucolic_frolic
(47,531 posts)Surely the Judge''s advice is similar, subject to their own choosing. Their time to tell the story, if they want to, is in the future. Things may look different in 8 years or so. Recording their memories for posterity might also be considered. They were admirable, strictly by the book, facts and law. They didn't politicize the trial. Trump is waging political war against the justice system, and his surrogates are blaming DOJ and Democrats for a "political prosecution". Projection as usual. We so need to escape drama and delusion of the Trump era.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)They might get offers from the likes of the National Enquirer, so if they want to share the cover of a grocery store tabloid with Bat Boy and a celebrity's drug bust for $10K, they can go right ahead, but they'd find out pretty quickly that it wouldn't be worth it.
MiHale
(10,872 posts)You go home knowing that you did good you fulfilled your duty to the best of your abilities. No need to talk about it if you dont want. Id pray Id be left alone and be able to get on with my life.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Most returning vets are not offered this kind of money.
MiHale
(10,872 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)pwb
(12,205 posts)Who offered them money?
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)We shall see who offers them money and how much.
Where, what story.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)It has been all over the news.
The media wants to know the details.
pwb
(12,205 posts)that may lead one to believe this. Otherwise this is just your opinion. Not news. If you are waiting for our shit media to investigate anything you have a long wait. The Secret documents case is more important than a past President fucking a porn woman.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)If you read a small sample of the OP and comments on DU you will immediately notice
that in most cases people are expressing their personal opinions.
They typically do not get lambasted for doing so.
And in fact I was asking questions, not giving opinions.
Please note that ad hominem attacks are considered a very weak argument.
It is much better to stick to facts and logic.
pwb
(12,205 posts)I know my way around here, thanks. The replies say what they say. Going after or being curious about the Jury is a puke move. IMO.
MineralMan
(147,938 posts)The trial is over. They're not restricted in any way. Most will do nothing at all. A couple might try to capitalize on being on that jury.
Moving on, now...
MartyTheGreek
(686 posts)Mz Pip
(27,928 posts)if they can. None of the jurors in Trumps other triad have come forward, either.
I dont think any amount of money would be worth the doxxing they would receive if they came forward.
paleotn
(19,456 posts)That's the way the jury system is supposed to work. The cornerstone of rule of law here and in our mother country.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)They probably need burglar alarms around their houses too.
Talitha
(7,473 posts)With all the insane magas out there, going public would be akin to suicide.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)There will be a big temptation to go public.
Hekate
(95,208 posts)Trumps insane MAGAs my gods, do the names Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss ring a bell?
People in this country who get pointed out by Trump find themselves doxxed and SWATed. They have to go into hiding, change their kids schools. Is there any 15 minutes of fame thats worth that?
The jury did the right thing. The jurors were brave. Now they should keep their heads down, invest in some home security devices, and hope nobody leaks their names.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Over 40 years as a therapist gives me a unique glimpse into human foibles and faults.
It may be hard for ordinary people to understand that people often make decisions that go against self interest.
To answer your question, nope, lay people who live in a cozy bubble of reality don't always get through
to me when they are missing the very basics of human nature.
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)They might fly you somewhere and put you up in a nice hotel for a day or two but you won't get a six-figure offer from CNN or the Washington Post for your story. Knock off a few decimal points and maybe you'll get an offer from David Packer's rag.
Talitha
(7,473 posts)No thanks, I'm not a money-hungry attention-hound like Dump.
we can do it
(12,789 posts)ecstatic
(34,504 posts)No amount of cash would cover the security risk of having millions of maga thugs confronting me.
If I were doxxed, I'd just deny that it was me. No need to confess. Sorry, you're wrong. Have a good day!
MAGA has no credibility so they can't credibly dox anyone.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Hekate
(95,208 posts)ecstatic
(34,504 posts)Because I'd have to consider the cost of needing extra security, potentially having to change jobs, move, etc.
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)I'm old; I have enough money to get by for the rest of my life, and I'd like to spend that time not being stalked, harassed and threatened. I doubt any media outlet would offer an amount sufficient to pay for a lifetime of 24-hour protection in a gated, secure residence.
RubyRose
(250 posts)we can do it
(12,789 posts)AnrothElf
(923 posts)Judge Merchan said they could talk or not talk after the trial and that nobody could tell them otherwise. He more or less said, "It's a free country." So no, the judge can't control any of this.
They're already all targets for MAGA.
I imagine some might make the calculation that fame is actually safer than obscurity. Only time will tell if they're right.
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)But if they're smart they'll do as most other Trump jurors have done: Remain as anonymous as possible.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Yes I agree, they should keep their mouths shut.
But this trial is more famous and historical.
There will be more pressure on them to talk.
getagrip_already
(17,528 posts)Names and addresses have been posted, some on the same sites that raised bodies for Jan 6.
Nobody knows if those names are really jurors, but they are out there, and threats are flying.
You.would have to really need a small amount of money to draw that lightening.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Some may be tempted to gamble with their lives.
Others not.
getagrip_already
(17,528 posts)The major networks don't pay guests asfaik. They do pay contributors, people who appear as subject matter experts on air, but I don't think they pay one time guests.
I might be wrong, but news shows try not to do that. Maybe shows like Maddow or O'Donnell do. Don't know.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Some of the media may pay for interviews, TV and print media.
Realistically unless there is some payoff the risk isn't worth it.
Unless some want to speak out for other reasons.
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)CNN, MSNBC, etc., don't.
gab13by13
(25,371 posts)Federalist Society member Christopher Wray will protect them.
Go for the money, you will get threatened anyway.
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)and the crimes of harassment, stalking, terroristic threats, etc. are state offenses and the responsibility of NYPD or whatever jurisdiction the jurors live in. I know you've got a huge hate on for Garland but this isn't a federal matter.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Depending upon how serious the threats are and how many, it is possible the state would ask for help from the feds.
Depending upon the demographics of the jury, some of the threats may constitute hate crimes and the FBI can be called in for that.
gab13by13
(25,371 posts)but I was told a couple of years ago that once Kristen Clarke was confirmed as head of the Civil Rights division of DOJ that all of the threats being hurled at government and public officials, even librarians, would be addressed by DOJ.
Why wouldn't DOJ get involved?
Ocelot II
(121,395 posts)gab13by13
(25,371 posts)I guarantee that the threats that will be hurled at those jurors will be done, coordinated by a group of people. There may be a few random threats but the bulk of the threats will be instigated by people from TSF's inner circle.
When people on Fox or people like Steve Bannon go on the air and incite violence their speech is crafted, coordinated to instill violence.
The jurors are not public officials but threats hurled against them is intended to cause mistrust in our judicial system, in our courts, in our democracy.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Might as well take the money.
Fla Dem
(25,852 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Arne
(3,608 posts)doing on air interviews.
I always wondered how they would
keep those people safe.
bif
(24,226 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)DET
(1,729 posts)Its up to each person. I would imagine that most will try to fly under the radar in the hopes that they wont be discovered. A couple may feel like this is their shot at 15 minutes of fame. Personally, there is no amount of money that could convince me to willingly out myself knowing the hell that Trump and his supporters will unleash on them. But if the names do come out, all bets are off.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Some might want their day in the sun.
NoMoreRepugs
(10,638 posts)Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Actually more in danger. They are at risk even if they don't speak out.
sop
(11,544 posts)Trump has gone after judges, prosecutors, politicians, journalists, former administration officials, media critics, actors, capitol policemen, FBI investigators, the Deep State, jurors, witnesses, former business associates...the enemies list just keeps getting longer and longer. Aside from some bullshit social media posts and threats by his followers, none of Trump's "enemies" have been harmed. I think the jurors in his latest trial will be ok, no matter what they decide to do.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)But that is traumatizing to people and they feel they cannot risk taking a chance.
So it is an effective strategy for Trump.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,396 posts)These nutcases will dox and attack any juror who dares to reveal their role in this jury
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)But some people think a bit pot of money is worth the risk.
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,633 posts)The jury quickly delivered a unanimous guilty verdict. What's there to buy, or sell?
Human nature isn't some mystery solved by only a select few. Every human being has access to it.
There's nothing there.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)What did the jury think and feel.
What were the dynamics and the discussion.
And disagreements, etc.
MSNBC talking heads have been talking non stop since the verdict.
They seem to think there is a lot there. Not nothing.
GoodRaisin
(9,624 posts)Would be the smart thing to do.
Irish_Dem
(59,466 posts)Keep my mouth shut and head down.