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Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:08 AM Jun 2024

What will the Trump trial jury do now?

Will they all go back to their normal routines and fade into history?

Go the talk show circuit, podcasts, etc?

Will they write books?

Become famous?

Become targets for MAGA?

Can the judge control any of this?

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What will the Trump trial jury do now? (Original Post) Irish_Dem Jun 2024 OP
Walk taller. C_U_L8R Jun 2024 #1
Yes they are brave and smart. And deserve accolades. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #2
Blend with the wallpaper. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #3
The media will make good $$ offers now. Not eight years from now? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #6
Reputable journalists and media outlets don't pay for interviews or stories. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #35
As so many of us have done after serving our country... MiHale Jun 2024 #4
The difference is that the jury will be offered lucrative deals. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #5
The devil does offer choice. MiHale Jun 2024 #7
Yes indeed he does. :( Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #9
Go back home to their families? pwb Jun 2024 #8
They are the hottest story in the US right now? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #10
They are? pwb Jun 2024 #13
One of the most important trials in US history is the story. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #18
I don't see any links in this post or replies pwb Jun 2024 #38
This is a discussion forum and I am asking questions to provoke discussion and answers. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #39
I am asking you where the facts are? pwb Jun 2024 #42
They, as individuals, will do whatever they please. MineralMan Jun 2024 #11
Collectively write that book: "We The Jury" n/t MartyTheGreek Jun 2024 #12
Stay anonymous Mz Pip Jun 2024 #14
Depends on the individual but most will simply return to their normal lives. paleotn Jun 2024 #15
Buy Internet security packages to prevent being doxed Bucky Jun 2024 #16
Me? I'd keep my head down and stay under the radar. Talitha Jun 2024 #17
Yes but there will be lucrative money deals offered? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #19
You keep saying that. Trump is threatening them with death & destruction. Hasn't that gotten thru to you at all? Hekate Jun 2024 #24
I guess I have spent too many years up close and personal to human nature. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #41
Reputable journalists and media outlets don't pay for stories. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #36
"Yes but there will be lucrative money deals offered? There will be a big temptation to go public." Talitha Jun 2024 #40
Go on with normal life. we can do it Jun 2024 #20
I would stay anonymous ecstatic Jun 2024 #21
You would turn down large sums of money? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #22
So what you are saying is that for your entertainment, other people should get doxxed & SWATted by insane MAGAts Hekate Jun 2024 #25
Anything less than $500,000 would be a non-starter for me. ecstatic Jun 2024 #27
I would turn down large sums of money. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #31
I'm right with you. RubyRose Jun 2024 #63
I sure as hell would. we can do it Jun 2024 #67
Some will want to fade into history. Some will not. It's their choice. AnrothElf Jun 2024 #23
They were told they could talk to the media or whatever they wanted to do. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #26
I didn't know that the judge told them they were free to do what they wanted. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #43
There are already death threats and attempts to dox them getagrip_already Jun 2024 #28
I agree, is the money worth the risk? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #44
I wonder if there is even a lot of money being offered getagrip_already Jun 2024 #51
I don't know how it works. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #53
Only tabloid-type publications pay. Mainstream media like NYT, WaPo, Ocelot II Jun 2024 #56
Garland's DOJ will protect them. gab13by13 Jun 2024 #29
That would not be the responsibility of DoJ, since this was a state case, Ocelot II Jun 2024 #33
The FBI can be called in when state officials needs help. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #46
I am not a lawyer gab13by13 Jun 2024 #50
Jurors aren't public officials. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #55
Do you think the threats will be coming from New York citizens? gab13by13 Jun 2024 #59
Gab some people may think this, they are going to get death threats anyway. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #45
I would put the whole process behind me and go back to living my before life. Fla Dem Jun 2024 #30
This is what I would do. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #47
I remember te altered voice and blacked out figures Arne Jun 2024 #32
Hire a bodyguard bif Jun 2024 #34
They are quite expensive. They are going to need extra cash for that. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #48
They'll Do Whatever they Want To Do DET Jun 2024 #37
Yes human nature is human nature. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #49
If they have children they will hopefully think twice prior to raising their voice. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2024 #52
Yes they put their families in harm's way if they speak out. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #54
Trump has turned so many people into "enemies," there aren't enough MAGA goons to go after them all. sop Jun 2024 #57
Trump's threats are largely psychological yes. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #60
I would remain anonymous LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #58
I agree, that is what I would do. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #64
Lucrative deals for what? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2024 #61
People are curious about the details. They like inside information. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #65
Lay low for a while. GoodRaisin Jun 2024 #62
I agree, lay low, say nothing to anyone about the trial. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #66

bucolic_frolic

(47,531 posts)
3. Blend with the wallpaper.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:15 AM
Jun 2024

Surely the Judge''s advice is similar, subject to their own choosing. Their time to tell the story, if they want to, is in the future. Things may look different in 8 years or so. Recording their memories for posterity might also be considered. They were admirable, strictly by the book, facts and law. They didn't politicize the trial. Trump is waging political war against the justice system, and his surrogates are blaming DOJ and Democrats for a "political prosecution". Projection as usual. We so need to escape drama and delusion of the Trump era.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
35. Reputable journalists and media outlets don't pay for interviews or stories.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jun 2024

They might get offers from the likes of the National Enquirer, so if they want to share the cover of a grocery store tabloid with Bat Boy and a celebrity's drug bust for $10K, they can go right ahead, but they'd find out pretty quickly that it wouldn't be worth it.

MiHale

(10,872 posts)
4. As so many of us have done after serving our country...
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:17 AM
Jun 2024

You go home knowing that you did good you fulfilled your duty to the best of your abilities. No need to talk about it if you don’t want. I’d pray I’d be left alone and be able to get on with my life.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
5. The difference is that the jury will be offered lucrative deals.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:21 AM
Jun 2024

Most returning vets are not offered this kind of money.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
10. They are the hottest story in the US right now?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:45 AM
Jun 2024

We shall see who offers them money and how much.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
18. One of the most important trials in US history is the story.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jun 2024

It has been all over the news.

The media wants to know the details.

pwb

(12,205 posts)
38. I don't see any links in this post or replies
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:58 AM
Jun 2024

that may lead one to believe this. Otherwise this is just your opinion. Not news. If you are waiting for our shit media to investigate anything you have a long wait. The Secret documents case is more important than a past President fucking a porn woman.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
39. This is a discussion forum and I am asking questions to provoke discussion and answers.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jun 2024

If you read a small sample of the OP and comments on DU you will immediately notice
that in most cases people are expressing their personal opinions.

They typically do not get lambasted for doing so.

And in fact I was asking questions, not giving opinions.

Please note that ad hominem attacks are considered a very weak argument.
It is much better to stick to facts and logic.



pwb

(12,205 posts)
42. I am asking you where the facts are?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:14 AM
Jun 2024

I know my way around here, thanks. The replies say what they say. Going after or being curious about the Jury is a puke move. IMO.

MineralMan

(147,938 posts)
11. They, as individuals, will do whatever they please.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:47 AM
Jun 2024

The trial is over. They're not restricted in any way. Most will do nothing at all. A couple might try to capitalize on being on that jury.

Moving on, now...

Mz Pip

(27,928 posts)
14. Stay anonymous
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:53 AM
Jun 2024

if they can. None of the jurors in Trump’s other triad have come forward, either.

I don’t think any amount of money would be worth the doxxing they would receive if they came forward.

paleotn

(19,456 posts)
15. Depends on the individual but most will simply return to their normal lives.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 08:56 AM
Jun 2024

That's the way the jury system is supposed to work. The cornerstone of rule of law here and in our mother country.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
16. Buy Internet security packages to prevent being doxed
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jun 2024

They probably need burglar alarms around their houses too.

Talitha

(7,473 posts)
17. Me? I'd keep my head down and stay under the radar.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:01 AM
Jun 2024

With all the insane magas out there, going public would be akin to suicide.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
19. Yes but there will be lucrative money deals offered?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jun 2024

There will be a big temptation to go public.

Hekate

(95,208 posts)
24. You keep saying that. Trump is threatening them with death & destruction. Hasn't that gotten thru to you at all?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:57 AM
Jun 2024

Trump’s insane MAGA’s — my gods, do the names Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss ring a bell?

People in this country who get pointed out by Trump find themselves doxxed and SWATed. They have to go into hiding, change their kids’ schools. Is there any 15 minutes of fame that’s worth that?

The jury did the right thing. The jurors were brave. Now they should keep their heads down, invest in some home security devices, and hope nobody leaks their names.


Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
41. I guess I have spent too many years up close and personal to human nature.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:13 AM
Jun 2024

Over 40 years as a therapist gives me a unique glimpse into human foibles and faults.

It may be hard for ordinary people to understand that people often make decisions that go against self interest.

To answer your question, nope, lay people who live in a cozy bubble of reality don't always get through
to me when they are missing the very basics of human nature.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
36. Reputable journalists and media outlets don't pay for stories.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jun 2024

They might fly you somewhere and put you up in a nice hotel for a day or two but you won't get a six-figure offer from CNN or the Washington Post for your story. Knock off a few decimal points and maybe you'll get an offer from David Packer's rag.

Talitha

(7,473 posts)
40. "Yes but there will be lucrative money deals offered? There will be a big temptation to go public."
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:07 AM
Jun 2024

No thanks, I'm not a money-hungry attention-hound like Dump.

ecstatic

(34,504 posts)
21. I would stay anonymous
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:45 AM
Jun 2024

No amount of cash would cover the security risk of having millions of maga thugs confronting me.

If I were doxxed, I'd just deny that it was me. No need to confess. Sorry, you're wrong. Have a good day!

MAGA has no credibility so they can't credibly dox anyone.

Hekate

(95,208 posts)
25. So what you are saying is that for your entertainment, other people should get doxxed & SWATted by insane MAGAts
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:01 AM
Jun 2024

ecstatic

(34,504 posts)
27. Anything less than $500,000 would be a non-starter for me.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:05 AM
Jun 2024

Because I'd have to consider the cost of needing extra security, potentially having to change jobs, move, etc.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
31. I would turn down large sums of money.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:21 AM
Jun 2024

I'm old; I have enough money to get by for the rest of my life, and I'd like to spend that time not being stalked, harassed and threatened. I doubt any media outlet would offer an amount sufficient to pay for a lifetime of 24-hour protection in a gated, secure residence.

 

AnrothElf

(923 posts)
23. Some will want to fade into history. Some will not. It's their choice.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 09:54 AM
Jun 2024

Judge Merchan said they could talk or not talk after the trial and that nobody could tell them otherwise. He more or less said, "It's a free country." So no, the judge can't control any of this.

They're already all targets for MAGA.

I imagine some might make the calculation that fame is actually safer than obscurity. Only time will tell if they're right.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
26. They were told they could talk to the media or whatever they wanted to do.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:04 AM
Jun 2024

But if they're smart they'll do as most other Trump jurors have done: Remain as anonymous as possible.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
43. I didn't know that the judge told them they were free to do what they wanted.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:14 AM
Jun 2024

Yes I agree, they should keep their mouths shut.

But this trial is more famous and historical.
There will be more pressure on them to talk.

getagrip_already

(17,528 posts)
28. There are already death threats and attempts to dox them
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:07 AM
Jun 2024

Names and addresses have been posted, some on the same sites that raised bodies for Jan 6.

Nobody knows if those names are really jurors, but they are out there, and threats are flying.

You.would have to really need a small amount of money to draw that lightening.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
44. I agree, is the money worth the risk?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:15 AM
Jun 2024

Some may be tempted to gamble with their lives.
Others not.

getagrip_already

(17,528 posts)
51. I wonder if there is even a lot of money being offered
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jun 2024

The major networks don't pay guests asfaik. They do pay contributors, people who appear as subject matter experts on air, but I don't think they pay one time guests.

I might be wrong, but news shows try not to do that. Maybe shows like Maddow or O'Donnell do. Don't know.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
53. I don't know how it works.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:34 AM
Jun 2024

Some of the media may pay for interviews, TV and print media.

Realistically unless there is some payoff the risk isn't worth it.
Unless some want to speak out for other reasons.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
56. Only tabloid-type publications pay. Mainstream media like NYT, WaPo,
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jun 2024

CNN, MSNBC, etc., don't.

gab13by13

(25,371 posts)
29. Garland's DOJ will protect them.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:09 AM
Jun 2024

Federalist Society member Christopher Wray will protect them.

Go for the money, you will get threatened anyway.

Ocelot II

(121,395 posts)
33. That would not be the responsibility of DoJ, since this was a state case,
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:24 AM
Jun 2024

and the crimes of harassment, stalking, terroristic threats, etc. are state offenses and the responsibility of NYPD or whatever jurisdiction the jurors live in. I know you've got a huge hate on for Garland but this isn't a federal matter.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
46. The FBI can be called in when state officials needs help.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:20 AM
Jun 2024

Depending upon how serious the threats are and how many, it is possible the state would ask for help from the feds.

Depending upon the demographics of the jury, some of the threats may constitute hate crimes and the FBI can be called in for that.

gab13by13

(25,371 posts)
50. I am not a lawyer
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jun 2024

but I was told a couple of years ago that once Kristen Clarke was confirmed as head of the Civil Rights division of DOJ that all of the threats being hurled at government and public officials, even librarians, would be addressed by DOJ.

Why wouldn't DOJ get involved?

gab13by13

(25,371 posts)
59. Do you think the threats will be coming from New York citizens?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jun 2024

I guarantee that the threats that will be hurled at those jurors will be done, coordinated by a group of people. There may be a few random threats but the bulk of the threats will be instigated by people from TSF's inner circle.

When people on Fox or people like Steve Bannon go on the air and incite violence their speech is crafted, coordinated to instill violence.

The jurors are not public officials but threats hurled against them is intended to cause mistrust in our judicial system, in our courts, in our democracy.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
45. Gab some people may think this, they are going to get death threats anyway.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:17 AM
Jun 2024

Might as well take the money.

Arne

(3,608 posts)
32. I remember te altered voice and blacked out figures
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:21 AM
Jun 2024

doing on air interviews.
I always wondered how they would
keep those people safe.

DET

(1,729 posts)
37. They'll Do Whatever they Want To Do
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jun 2024

It’s up to each person. I would imagine that most will try to fly under the radar in the hopes that they won’t be discovered. A couple may feel like this is their shot at 15 minutes of fame. Personally, there is no amount of money that could convince me to willingly out myself knowing the hell that Trump and his supporters will unleash on them. But if the names do come out, all bets are off.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
54. Yes they put their families in harm's way if they speak out.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 11:35 AM
Jun 2024

Actually more in danger. They are at risk even if they don't speak out.

sop

(11,544 posts)
57. Trump has turned so many people into "enemies," there aren't enough MAGA goons to go after them all.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 12:00 PM
Jun 2024

Trump has gone after judges, prosecutors, politicians, journalists, former administration officials, media critics, actors, capitol policemen, FBI investigators, the Deep State, jurors, witnesses, former business associates...the enemies list just keeps getting longer and longer. Aside from some bullshit social media posts and threats by his followers, none of Trump's "enemies" have been harmed. I think the jurors in his latest trial will be ok, no matter what they decide to do.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
60. Trump's threats are largely psychological yes.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 12:22 PM
Jun 2024

But that is traumatizing to people and they feel they cannot risk taking a chance.
So it is an effective strategy for Trump.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,396 posts)
58. I would remain anonymous
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jun 2024

These nutcases will dox and attack any juror who dares to reveal their role in this jury

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
64. I agree, that is what I would do.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jun 2024

But some people think a bit pot of money is worth the risk.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,633 posts)
61. Lucrative deals for what?
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 01:46 PM
Jun 2024

The jury quickly delivered a unanimous guilty verdict. What's there to buy, or sell?

Human nature isn't some mystery solved by only a select few. Every human being has access to it.

There's nothing there.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
65. People are curious about the details. They like inside information.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 03:29 PM
Jun 2024

What did the jury think and feel.
What were the dynamics and the discussion.
And disagreements, etc.

MSNBC talking heads have been talking non stop since the verdict.

They seem to think there is a lot there. Not nothing.

Irish_Dem

(59,466 posts)
66. I agree, lay low, say nothing to anyone about the trial.
Sun Jun 2, 2024, 03:30 PM
Jun 2024

Keep my mouth shut and head down.

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