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Blue Owl
(53,519 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(50,251 posts)The logical flaw in the reasoning of the meme is that it compares info with restrictions: apples and oranges. It takes a missing restriction and equates it to a job app question.
It is not forbidden to hire felons, except in specific cases like financial felons in financial jobs.
It is not forbidden to hire felons as President of the USA.
It is common to ask on job apps if there is a felony conviction in the person's past.
It is common in this election to discuss tRump's known felony convictions.
I think felons should by law (Constitutional amendment) be prohibited from elected federal office and presidential appointment, unless the oldest felony is more than say 30 years ago (people can reform "youthful indiscretions" given time and support and will). I think the Electoral College should be eliminated at the same time.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)You've never applied for a job, I take it, because the vast majority of jobs I applied for over the years did indeed ask about any prior convictions.
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,251 posts)Of course apps ask about convictions. I think you are taking offense needlessly.
When I wrote
soldierant
(7,613 posts)The mem is taliking about applying for the job, and asking the question. Not saying you are not correct in your statements - but the application is exactly what the meme is saying needs to be changed. Sort of like "Don't ask, don't tell."
Bernardo de La Paz
(50,251 posts)Being president means holding the job.
Ergo, the meme is talking about holding the job.
soldierant
(7,613 posts)"If you can be a felon and be president, they need to remove felon off of all job applications, rental applications, and professsional certifications."
The only reason a felon can be president is that it's not "on the application" - it's not on the list of qualifications to be President.
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." That's it. Nothing about felony convictions there. Adding to that can only be done by Constitutional Amendment - like the one which limits a President's terms.
DoBW
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tritsofme
(18,002 posts)These restrictions can stand or fall on their own, we shouldnt collectively lower our standards because Trump exists.
Farmer-Rick
(10,888 posts)If you are on probation. So all those suckers and losers he would lead, as Commander and Chief, have better characters and morals than he does.
You can sometimes join some of the military services if you are a convicted felon (and finished with probation or parole) with a moral waiver.
I think convicted felons should apply for moral waivers to Congress if they want to be the president.
onenote
(43,819 posts)But it doesn't matter, because the Commander in Chief is not a member of the military, as I'm sure you know.
Martin68
(23,961 posts)onecaliberal
(34,932 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
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elocs
(22,954 posts)Clearly, some are.
BWdem4life
(2,079 posts)onenote
(43,819 posts)You can become a lawyer with a criminal conviction on your record. You may end up being disbarred if you commit the felony AFTER becoming a member of the bar. And you don't have to be a member of the bar to be a Supreme Court justice.
quaint
(3,141 posts)onenote
(43,819 posts)From the California Bar Website.
8. Are there criminal offenses that are an absolute bar to a positive moral character determination? Will a misdemeanor or felony conviction alone prevent me from obtaininga positivemoralcharacterdetermination?
No. There is no act of misconduct that automatically disqualifies an applicant from obtaining a positive moral character determination. The State Bar makes moral character determinations on a case-by-case basis, considering each applicants history. When an applicant has criminal history, the State Bar determines whether sufficient rehabilitation has occurred to warrant a positive moral character determination.
https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/admissions/moralCharacter/Moral-Character-FAQ.pdf
littlemissmartypants
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multigraincracker
(33,549 posts)But pigs are more equal.