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marmar

(78,153 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 07:43 AM Jun 2024

Rudy Giuliani's mug shot and Steve Bannon's prison sentence: Why MAGA loves to be seen as villains


Rudy Giuliani's mug shot and Steve Bannon's prison sentence: Why MAGA loves to be seen as villains
Most people see chronic criminality as a bad thing, but to the GOP base, it's something to celebrate

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer
PUBLISHED JUNE 13, 2024 6:00AM (EDT)


(Salon) Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon are once again facing handcuffs and jail cells, and boy do they want people to think they are ecstatic about it.

After a judge declined to indulge more of his delay tactics and ordered Bannon to start his prison sentence on July 1, the former top Trump aide took to his popular "WarRoom" podcast to bloviate at pomposity levels heretofore unimaginable. "The purpose of this is to shut down this show because this show has become such a powerful platform for MAGA and President Trump," he declared, with maximum self-drama. Journalist Jennifer Senior described Bannon's performance for The Bulwark: "He plumped like a sponge in front of the cameras," performing "how pleased he was" at the prospect of playing up his MAGA martyrdom.

....(snip)....

As Margaret Hartmann at New York magazine wrote, Giuliani has turned himself into "a real-life Batman villain." When a reporter asked if he regrets his alleged crimes (Giuliani is charged with a scheme to steal Arizona's electoral votes and replace them with fake ones) he was gleeful. "I’m very, very proud of it!"

....(snip)....

MAGA mistakes immorality for strength. This is a common refrain with fascists and authoritarians who love to talk a big game about how they need to break some rules — and break some skulls — to get things done. That's why Gov. Kristi Noem, R-S.D., was so excited to tell that disturbing story about shooting her own dog. She portrayed it as "another unpleasant job needed to be done," as if she should be lauded for making "hard" choices that supposedly weaker people can't make. ................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/06/13/rudy-giulianis-mug-shot-and-steve-bannons-sentence-why-maga-loves-to-be-seen-as-villains/




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Rudy Giuliani's mug shot and Steve Bannon's prison sentence: Why MAGA loves to be seen as villains (Original Post) marmar Jun 2024 OP
I'm glad this is being discussed EYESORE 9001 Jun 2024 #1
I think of how Trump used to tell rally goers he'd pay their legal fees if they beat hecklers? Ohioboy Jun 2024 #3
They didn't get much assistance after the insurrection at the Capitol EYESORE 9001 Jun 2024 #4
They're a bunch tough guys and gals Ohioboy Jun 2024 #2
Yes, but they only want to be seen as living villains. harumph Jun 2024 #5
They love to play the victim. Dulcinea Jun 2024 #6

EYESORE 9001

(27,674 posts)
1. I'm glad this is being discussed
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 08:01 AM
Jun 2024

I admit that this article hits all the right places with me. Call it confirmation bias if you will. I’ve long recognized the cruelty streak within that execrable movement. I hope every last one who wants to FA, FO right away that antisocial and criminal behavior get you put away.

Ohioboy

(3,538 posts)
3. I think of how Trump used to tell rally goers he'd pay their legal fees if they beat hecklers?
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 08:06 AM
Jun 2024

Trump got a lot of support for that kind of talk. It's very sad and scary.

EYESORE 9001

(27,674 posts)
4. They didn't get much assistance after the insurrection at the Capitol
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 08:18 AM
Jun 2024

Only moral support AFAIK. If they try anything now, the Biden JD is prepared to start dispensing stiff sentences - perhaps on a fast track to justice. By now, promises of legal aid must ring hollow, and once MAGAt families start suffering the hardships associated with ostensible wage-earners getting incarcerated, word will spread through communities ill-equipped to take in destitute outsiders. Besides, they’d be soliciting help from other MAGAts, and we all know how compassionate they are.

harumph

(2,439 posts)
5. Yes, but they only want to be seen as living villains.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 08:22 AM
Jun 2024

Just an observation. Not say, like Elmer McCurdy.

Dulcinea

(7,646 posts)
6. They love to play the victim.
Thu Jun 13, 2024, 08:47 AM
Jun 2024

Whiny ass losers. Being a victim absolves them of any responsibility for anything.

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