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Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:01 AM Jun 2024

Justice Alito singled out as roadblock to stalled Trump criminal immunity ruling

During an appearance on MSNBC's "The Weekend," Slate legal analyst Mark Joseph Stern pointed the finger at Justice Samuel Alito as the culprit for why the Supreme Court has yet to issue a ruling on whether Donald Trump should be afforded blanket criminal immunity.

Speaking with the hosts, Stern was asked why the court is dragging its feet on a case that could have a major impact on the 2024 presidential election. "I think the problem here is that the Supreme Court's conservatives are, if not corrupt, then wrapped up in this fantasy of a presidency that has safeguards, that has guard rails against abuse and corruption and they don't think what Donald Trump did at the end of the day, was all that bad," the legal analysts stated.

"This came out loud and clear in the conservatives' decision on the ballot removal case where the court refused to grapple with this question on whether Trump engaged in insurrection, refused to address the true gravity of January 6, and issued a very formalistic non-originalist opinion that allows Trump to appear on the ballot, despite the 14th's Amendment clear bar against insurrectionists holding federal office," he continued.

"We could see that same dynamic play out on this decision," he continued. "Maybe that is the reason for the delay behind the scenes but I also think it is possible that Justice Sam Alito is simply dragging out the opinion writing process to run as much interference for Trump as possible — to run out the clock and ensure his guy doesn't have to see meaningful legal progress in this case beyond November and beyond."

https://www.rawstory.com/alito-trump-2668576847/

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Justice Alito singled out as roadblock to stalled Trump criminal immunity ruling (Original Post) Tom of Temecula Jun 2024 OP
Flood his mail box with post cards with one word in big black sharpie on it ..... Hotler Jun 2024 #1
I always thought Scalia was the worst supreme Court Justice in my lifetime but.. yourout Jun 2024 #2
We can always hope these 2 MOMFUDSKI Jun 2024 #4
Scalia was nasty and mean, but intelligent. yardwork Jun 2024 #12
This times a billion!!!! wolfie001 Jun 2024 #16
Intelligent, but he had logical disconnects and blind spots that spooky3 Jun 2024 #25
Scalia started it all. They're just following in his footsteps. Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #21
Scalia just had different opinions on the Constitution Polybius Jun 2024 #44
RBG was friends with him, despite a chasm of ideological divide. I doubt she ever was with the corrupt Alito and Thomas. Celerity Jun 2024 #59
I want to know what Trump has on Alito for blackmail and/or no_hypocrisy Jun 2024 #3
Who is bribing Alito to cover for Trump? Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #7
I don't think it's blackmail, they are just that evil, and corrupt of course Walleye Jun 2024 #8
I agree. Alito believes this crap. yardwork Jun 2024 #13
I still wanna know what Trump said to Justice Kennedy that day they were walking away and he stopped short Walleye Jun 2024 #38
Something about Kennedy's son, maybe. yardwork Jun 2024 #54
Yep, that's what I'm thinking. Deutsche bank Walleye Jun 2024 #58
The Christian Industrial Complex is... Mr. Mustard 2023 Jun 2024 #23
That is all exactly correct Walleye Jun 2024 #40
They are radical white Christians. Trust_Reality Jun 2024 #35
I don't think Alito is being blackmailed. Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #22
I think a lot of this is just payback for the decisions the Warren Court made Walleye Jun 2024 #42
They're the kind of people I tend to avoid in a neighborhood. Baitball Blogger Jun 2024 #45
I don't think he has blackmail fodder. I think Alito really wants spooky3 Jun 2024 #27
Hard to blackmail someone with life time job security. brush Jun 2024 #53
Speculative nonsense Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #5
Very speculative. The ruling will come eventually and nobody really knows anything that's happening behind the scenes. ColinC Jun 2024 #28
... "eventually" ... Whereas, as DUer surfered points out: Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #33
Yeah the court's biased and blatantly corrupt ColinC Jun 2024 #41
So we do know quite a lot about them, don't we? Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #47
There was a real hard deadline in the Colorado case. The date for the primary had been set. onenote Jun 2024 #56
I agree but author is saying what people want to hear Kaleva Jun 2024 #36
So, as you were with Garland, you are convinced that the right thing is going on behind the scenes? Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #48
Not at all, I have no doubt Alito is one of two likely pro-immunity votes on SCOTUS Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #57
Yep. Totally speculative. onenote Jun 2024 #55
Treason at the highest levels. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #6
Trump is promising he will do it again. And I guess they are confident in their safety because Walleye Jun 2024 #9
Trump cultists can't be reached. mn9driver Jun 2024 #10
I think the upside down "Stop the Steal" flag tells us exactly what Alito and his wife support. Lonestarblue Jun 2024 #19
Roberts needs to get his act together. He can't let Thomas and Alito derail the court very time they Martin68 Jun 2024 #11
Maybe more criticism of Roberts will move him. Trust_Reality Jun 2024 #37
They want TSF back in the oval office for one reason KS Toronado Jun 2024 #14
Either way, Sammy and Clarence : two big steaming piles of shit. 3Hotdogs Jun 2024 #15
Yet, the Supreme Court has ruled against trump on just about every election and aftermath case. It will Silent Type Jun 2024 #17
"The delay is in trump's favor" Yes. Yes it is. And there's absolutely no other reason for it. Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #49
This is a major part of the Project '25 agenda. The rethugs have been working toward this since Reagan. Texin Jun 2024 #18
Have these idiots asked themselves durablend Jun 2024 #26
If it makes not sense, it is about religion - with or without greed. Trust_Reality Jun 2024 #39
I've been asking the same questions since An Inconvenient Truth dropped back in the late '90s. Texin Jun 2024 #43
One Justice doesn't stop rulings. 3-5 fence sitters do. bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #20
Demo SC reforms duckworth969 Jun 2024 #24
Justice Alito singled out as roadblock to stalled Trump criminal immunity ruling LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #29
So he took his ball and went home? cilla4progress Jun 2024 #30
Alito and Thomas need to be impeached and prosecuted LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #31
But, sadly, none of that will happen. Scrivener7 Jun 2024 #34
Samual Alito is a POS. Ray Bruns Jun 2024 #32
Him and Clearance Thomas Deep State Witch Jun 2024 #46
Those two fuckers are so crooked they should cancel each other out Blue Owl Jun 2024 #52
it's not like we did not already know Alito is a Trump whore Skittles Jun 2024 #50
"if not corrupt..." Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #51
SCOTUS has dietary and health issues caused by 'Wisdom Tooth' problems Model35mech Jun 2024 #60
I agree with Marc Elias LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2024 #61

Hotler

(12,390 posts)
1. Flood his mail box with post cards with one word in big black sharpie on it .....
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:06 AM
Jun 2024

RESIGN. He's thin skinned, hate mail will get to him.

yourout

(8,137 posts)
2. I always thought Scalia was the worst supreme Court Justice in my lifetime but..
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:10 AM
Jun 2024

I've come to realize it's actually probably Thomas and Alito.
Scalia was an a****** but Thomas and Alito are just corrupt as hell.

 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
4. We can always hope these 2
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:16 AM
Jun 2024

die under a hooker on one of their special vacays like their predecessor Scalia did

yardwork

(64,766 posts)
12. Scalia was nasty and mean, but intelligent.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:58 AM
Jun 2024

Alito and Thomas are simply stupid and mean.

wolfie001

(3,848 posts)
16. This times a billion!!!!
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:35 AM
Jun 2024

And both of their wives are up to their snouts in this sh6t!!! Sickening. Corporate bootlickers AND religious fanatics.

spooky3

(36,424 posts)
25. Intelligent, but he had logical disconnects and blind spots that
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:09 AM
Jun 2024

The most brilliant people tend not to have.

Polybius

(18,368 posts)
44. Scalia just had different opinions on the Constitution
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:41 AM
Jun 2024

He was charismatic, an intellectual, and intelligent.

Celerity

(46,866 posts)
59. RBG was friends with him, despite a chasm of ideological divide. I doubt she ever was with the corrupt Alito and Thomas.
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 05:17 AM
Jun 2024

no_hypocrisy

(49,206 posts)
3. I want to know what Trump has on Alito for blackmail and/or
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:10 AM
Jun 2024

how much money he paid Alito.

Trump found a way to get Justice Anthony Kennedy to step down. He knows how to leverage the USSC.

Irish_Dem

(59,732 posts)
7. Who is bribing Alito to cover for Trump?
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:20 AM
Jun 2024

And how much?

Blackmail wouldn't surprise me either.
The holier than thou GOP are usually hiding gross crimes and immorality.

yardwork

(64,766 posts)
13. I agree. Alito believes this crap.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:00 AM
Jun 2024

Now Kavanaugh, he's bought off. Somebody paid his gambling debts. I have no doubt that Trump's people have dirt on Kavanaugh.

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
38. I still wanna know what Trump said to Justice Kennedy that day they were walking away and he stopped short
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:23 AM
Jun 2024

Mr. Mustard 2023

(257 posts)
23. The Christian Industrial Complex is...
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:00 AM
Jun 2024

...losing its power. They'll do anything to keep it.

Those white boys are afraid, once they're in the minority, they'll be treated as they treated minorities.

Religion is about power.

Baitball Blogger

(48,434 posts)
22. I don't think Alito is being blackmailed.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:00 AM
Jun 2024

What he is, is a right-wing ideologue. He is the opposite of what is expected of a Supreme Court justice.

We have a political activist on the highest court of the United States.

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
42. I think a lot of this is just payback for the decisions the Warren Court made
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jun 2024

They’ve never really gotten over racially integrating the schools. They called it legislating from the bench.

spooky3

(36,424 posts)
27. I don't think he has blackmail fodder. I think Alito really wants
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:11 AM
Jun 2024

The world that Trump would bring him.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,816 posts)
5. Speculative nonsense
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:17 AM
Jun 2024

The Colorado ruling was supported by liberals on the court, and constitutionally, was the correct decision.

Alito may be dragging his feet on writing his opinion, whatever it is, and that is delaying publication of the court’s ruling, but surely Roberts has given a deadline of the end of the term for Alito to have his say.

All the rest is completely made up clickbait with no evidence to support it, just Stern’s imaginstion.

ColinC

(10,955 posts)
28. Very speculative. The ruling will come eventually and nobody really knows anything that's happening behind the scenes.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jun 2024

Scrivener7

(53,203 posts)
33. ... "eventually" ... Whereas, as DUer surfered points out:
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:52 AM
Jun 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219049700#post3
surfered (910 posts)
8. According to Weissmann, the most telling thing was that the Supreme court took only two months to rule
Reply to gab13by13 (Original post)
Fri Jun 21, 2024, 09:24 AM

on the 14th Amendment challenge by Colorado, keeping Trump on the ballot there. The Court took only one day to hear and decide the Bush/Gore case. It's been four months since the Court agreed to hear Trump's immunity claim, almost assuring there won't be a trial before the election. It's an obvious demonstration of bias.

ColinC

(10,955 posts)
41. Yeah the court's biased and blatantly corrupt
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jun 2024

But you don’t need a Harvard educated lawyer to tell us that…

onenote

(44,805 posts)
56. There was a real hard deadline in the Colorado case. The date for the primary had been set.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jun 2024

Kaleva

(38,544 posts)
36. I agree but author is saying what people want to hear
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:16 AM
Jun 2024

It reinforces their world view so to them, it must be true even if it really is just pure speculation.

Scrivener7

(53,203 posts)
48. So, as you were with Garland, you are convinced that the right thing is going on behind the scenes?
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 01:47 PM
Jun 2024

Fiendish Thingy

(18,816 posts)
57. Not at all, I have no doubt Alito is one of two likely pro-immunity votes on SCOTUS
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 04:45 PM
Jun 2024

And, IMO, delaying any trial until after the election was the primary motivation in SCOTUS accepting the immunity case, not the merits of the case itself. The delay in issuing the opinion until the end of the term was baked in the moment they accepted the case.

But, as with those who presume that Garland intentionally obstructed or delayed Trump’s investigations, there is no evidence to support Stern’s specific speculation about Alito and the rest of the court.

Speaking with the hosts, Stern was asked why the court is dragging its feet on a case that could have a major impact on the 2024 presidential election. "I think the problem here is that the Supreme Court's conservatives are, if not corrupt, then wrapped up in this fantasy of a presidency that has safeguards, that has guard rails against abuse and corruption and they don't think what Donald Trump did at the end of the day, was all that bad,(I believe Alito and Thomas may feel that way, but there is no evidence the entire conservative bloc does)" the legal analysts stated.

"This came out loud and clear in the conservatives' decision on the ballot removal case where the court refused to grapple with this question on whether Trump engaged in insurrection, refused to address the true gravity of January 6, and issued a very formalistic non-originalist opinion that allows Trump to appear on the ballot, despite the 14th's Amendment clear bar against insurrectionists holding federal office," he continued.(this is the part I consider the most nonsensical, as it ignores the liberals who concurred with the ruling, which had nothing to do with Trump’s disqualification, it was about whether a state had the power to disqualify a candidate for federal office, and they correctly ruled it does not. The suit should have been filed in federal, not state, court.)

onenote

(44,805 posts)
55. Yep. Totally speculative.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 04:34 PM
Jun 2024

We don't know how the case is coming out. If he's part of the majority, Robert will assign the decision to himself. If Roberts is not part of the majority, and Thomas is, then Thomas will assign who writes the opinion and probably will give it to himself or, maybe Alito. But whichever way it comes out, there is a very good chance that each Justice, or nearly each Justice, will write a separate concurring or dissenting opinion. And thus, it could be any one of the justices that are holding up the release of the decision as they go back and forth and tweak their opinions. That's almost certainly what happened with the Rahimi decision, where eight of the justices agreed on the majority opinion which Roberts assigned to himself, but there still ended up being concurring opinions from 6 of the justices and a dissent from Thomas, which helps explain why it took so long for the decision to come out -- the case was argued in early November -- more than five months before the immunity case. Interestingly, the only justice in the majority who didn't sign onto a separate opinion was Alito.

In short, there is no evidence that Alito is the sole justice standing in the way of the decision being finalized.

Walleye

(36,439 posts)
9. Trump is promising he will do it again. And I guess they are confident in their safety because
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:31 AM
Jun 2024

They know the Democrats aren’t going to send a big mob with bear spray to storm the Supreme Court building. They really live in a protective bubble. Also our side doesn’t give out death threats because of a wrong decision. So they allow Republican fascists to break the law with impunity

mn9driver

(4,594 posts)
10. Trump cultists can't be reached.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:36 AM
Jun 2024

When given facts, they get really upset. That’s what is going on with Alito. He is more than just corrupt. He is a cultist.

Lonestarblue

(11,983 posts)
19. I think the upside down "Stop the Steal" flag tells us exactly what Alito and his wife support.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:48 AM
Jun 2024

Martin68

(24,735 posts)
11. Roberts needs to get his act together. He can't let Thomas and Alito derail the court very time they
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 08:47 AM
Jun 2024

want to.

Trust_Reality

(1,908 posts)
37. Maybe more criticism of Roberts will move him.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:18 AM
Jun 2024

After all, it is "the Roberts Court". His reputation and legacy are at stake.
On the other hand, he seems to be a more subtle version of Alito and Thomas.

Get radical self-serving religiosity out of government !!!

KS Toronado

(19,703 posts)
14. They want TSF back in the oval office for one reason
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jun 2024

it'll give them 4 more years to carry out their conservative agenda without having to answer to Congress.

This is utter bullshit having a S.C. approve of one political party over the other.

Silent Type

(7,339 posts)
17. Yet, the Supreme Court has ruled against trump on just about every election and aftermath case. It will
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:39 AM
Jun 2024

be interesting to see if they issue the immunity decision the day before or day of the debate.

The delay is in trump's favor, but don't think he'll get immunity for anything he's charged with at this time.

Scrivener7

(53,203 posts)
49. "The delay is in trump's favor" Yes. Yes it is. And there's absolutely no other reason for it.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 01:49 PM
Jun 2024

That tells us all we need to know.

Texin

(2,664 posts)
18. This is a major part of the Project '25 agenda. The rethugs have been working toward this since Reagan.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 09:41 AM
Jun 2024

They were just quieter about their overall agenda and hadn't named it yet.

The Federalist Society and The Heritage Foundation have been working toward this since the early '80s, and their goal is essentially to establish a minority white rule in perpetuity - a sort of American Apartheid if you will.

I'm becoming ever more increasingly anxious as everything plays out like it is doing on a daily basis now. It also doesn't help that I'm reading Sarah Kendzior's superb book, Hiding In Plain Sight. It's about the political-economic and geo-political climate that led up to the installation of he who shall not be named here. But the overall aim of these folks is to establish authoritarian rule to ensure their aims. Truly, if you think about it and remember the period post-FDR, the goal of the rethugs (and white evangelicals) was to tear down all the institutions and programs that were enacted to combat the great depression; i.e., wipe out the social safety net programs such as Social Security (especially Social Security and later, Medicare). The wealthy elites and corporatists don't give a continental shit about anyone but their ilk. The rest of us are around to serve them and then die, the sooner the better. Oh, and they couldn't care less about the planet. It's simply around to be exploited and stripped for parts or hunted down.

durablend

(8,022 posts)
26. Have these idiots asked themselves
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:11 AM
Jun 2024

What in the hell are you (rich people) going to do when the planet turns into a wasteland? Burrow underground? Blast off to Mars?

All that money isn't going to do shit for you then.

Trust_Reality

(1,908 posts)
39. If it makes not sense, it is about religion - with or without greed.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:24 AM
Jun 2024

We need to get radical, self-serving religiosity out of government.

Texin

(2,664 posts)
43. I've been asking the same questions since An Inconvenient Truth dropped back in the late '90s.
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jun 2024

They've obviously been making contingency plans or else they're hoping their orange Jesus can beam them up in the Rapture or something. I don't even begin to understand where they think they're going to use their US dollars (or maybe it'll be bitcoin by then) after they've sacked the planet, pillaged it and raped it into oblivion.

duckworth969

(966 posts)
24. Demo SC reforms
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:02 AM
Jun 2024

If the Dems get control of Congress, reform is going to be pushed hard.

SC could be trying to stave off any moves in that direction.

Protecting their cushy lives, keep political power in their hands to remain virtually untouchable.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,544 posts)
29. Justice Alito singled out as roadblock to stalled Trump criminal immunity ruling
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:22 AM
Jun 2024

Alito is a partisan hack who is trying to help TFG
Here is the youtube of this interview





cilla4progress

(25,981 posts)
30. So he took his ball and went home?
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:39 AM
Jun 2024

Brat!

Arrogant prig!! Let him write a dissent and be done with it!

LiberalFighter

(53,520 posts)
31. Alito and Thomas need to be impeached and prosecuted
Sat Jun 22, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jun 2024

Republicans need to understand that immunity would allow a president to kill any of them.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
60. SCOTUS has dietary and health issues caused by 'Wisdom Tooth' problems
Sun Jun 23, 2024, 05:51 AM
Jun 2024

with all four of it's wisdom teeth.

They can't seriously chew the nation's most important issues, because the core of these problems involves the hard cooked food of radical authoritarianism. What they are cooking is damned hard for a representative democracy to eat. It hurts conservatives feelings to bite down on these things that they know don't belong in the cuisine of American democracy. Yet they can't drop their insistence on radical ingredients that turn healthful culling of unhealthy American foods into a steady diet of toxic catholic integralism cooked up by uncompromising authoritarians who claim their way is what the American diets should look like.

They expect the rest of us to accept that their chewing around the bitter pits as a model of intelligent reasoning in a nation that ostensibly bans religious zealotry from law making. Even while their rich friends fly them to better food venues of the corporate overlords.

So, a large part of this is bullying by judges with rotten teeth. Their opinions float in on breath fragranced by the rot inside.

Criticism of the courts legal hygiene hits Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch like ice water on exposed nerve endings. They don't do the ice-cold criticism. And they don't do the oral hygiene that might return their ability to have any interest in a balanced approach to America's legal dietary needs. They skip all the hard foods and suck on their authoritarian alcohol hoping that the absence of need to chew frees them from the dental pain and that their stupor apparently will keep them blissfully unaware of the expanding problems they are generating by squeezing all this religious fat into the nation's liver.

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