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He sure is a handsome man. (Original Post) Jacson6 Jun 2024 OP
Superficial cilla4progress Jun 2024 #1
What he has to say is substance. Certainly not superficial. brush Jun 2024 #26
I agree PatSeg Jun 2024 #38
Surfaces count, even if we don't like that fact. whathehell Jun 2024 #31
And that has what to do with the price of tea??? Peacetrain Jun 2024 #2
My mom used to say "what's that got to do with the price of tea in china?" captain queeg Jun 2024 #5
I always heard it as the price of rice in China NoRethugFriends Jun 2024 #6
so did mine.. that is where I picked that up Peacetrain Jun 2024 #7
Yes he is! Dem4life1234 Jun 2024 #3
With Andy Beshear, Bayard Jun 2024 #48
dupe Bayard Jun 2024 #49
And brains to go with it! onecaliberal Jun 2024 #4
Yes he is Travel Hat Jun 2024 #8
The kind of guy ... Tom of Temecula Jun 2024 #9
He certainly is and Alliepoo Jun 2024 #10
Not to mention extremely smart and articulate. When he..... EarnestPutz Jun 2024 #11
Hard Pass krawhitham Jun 2024 #12
Are we holding a beauty contest? blogslug Jun 2024 #13
He's got the brains and political savvy to go far PatSeg Jun 2024 #40
Thank you for reminding me blogslug Jun 2024 #45
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Jun 2024 #53
My only criteria for choosing a President. Nanjeanne Jun 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jun 2024 #50
Lol...No one is citing it as such. whathehell Jun 2024 #51
Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #15
I'm glad you agree. n/t Jacson6 Jun 2024 #17
I think Joe is better looking flamingdem Jun 2024 #16
He's a slick looking city slicker CountAllVotes Jun 2024 #18
I don't much about him... But just bc he... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #19
He is from a very well off family CountAllVotes Jun 2024 #22
That still doesn't mean he could 't have empathy, compassion for people quite less well off than him.... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #23
Like FDR? senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #34
FDR is ranked as America's 3rd Greatest President whathehell Jun 2024 #39
And for some people True Dough Jun 2024 #43
Yup. whathehell Jun 2024 #44
The biggest stain on his record is the Japanese internment Silent3 Jun 2024 #68
I don't think he'll play well in the Blue Wall states. shrike3 Jun 2024 #24
More than one San Franciscan ... CountAllVotes Jun 2024 #25
I'm glad you said that, because I was wondering. It didn't seem that Newsom is that loved. shrike3 Jun 2024 #30
Many of S.F.'s mayors were not that loved CountAllVotes Jun 2024 #57
Thanks. Don't know much about that part of the world; I know a little more now. shrike3 Jun 2024 #58
there were many CountAllVotes Jun 2024 #64
The same could be said of FDR and JFK. Ocelot II Jun 2024 #27
FDR and John F. Kennedy never "did without" either whathehell Jun 2024 #35
FDR and JFK PatSeg Jun 2024 #41
Lol..Most democratic voters LIVE in cities. whathehell Jun 2024 #46
LOL. Some folks are tryin' real hard. shrike3 Jun 2024 #20
Subtlety is not their strong suit! niyad Jun 2024 #33
"Subtety" about what, exactly? whathehell Jun 2024 #42
"tryin' real hard" to do what, exactly? whathehell Jun 2024 #37
To indicate their choice of dream candidate, for lack of a better term. shrike3 Jun 2024 #59
I didn't take it that way at all.. whathehell Jun 2024 #61
I did. I thought the insinuation was obvious. shrike3 Jun 2024 #63
Not at all obvious to me, but I think whathehell Jun 2024 #66
A handsome man who polls no better against Trump than Joe does. shrike3 Jun 2024 #21
Being well-off certainly hasn't stopped the Kennedy family from empathy, action and caring about the less well-off. brush Jun 2024 #28
Too thin and a bad haircut EarthAbides Jun 2024 #29
Joe Biden is a "white man" too..So what? whathehell Jun 2024 #36
Keep trying. You are not even subtle. niyad Jun 2024 #32
Just so happens True Dough Jun 2024 #47
Interesting choice for Pete's VP in 2028. aeromanKC Jun 2024 #52
In person he's hard not to stare at! kimbutgar Jun 2024 #54
He has the... Mike Nelson Jun 2024 #55
Seth looks like he's getting pretty old bigtree Jun 2024 #56
And thank goodness he is no longer with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Sogo Jun 2024 #60
Wide right of the uprights. Torchlight Jun 2024 #62
And he is a strong supporter of President Biden. Deek1935 Jun 2024 #65
Indeed he is Hekate Jun 2024 #67

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
38. I agree
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:10 PM
Jun 2024

I've been following Newsom for many years and I don't find him to be superficial at all. He is a smart man with great ideas and not afraid to put them out there. And yes, I find him really good looking as well.

 

Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
9. The kind of guy ...
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jun 2024

... who could ably lead the fight to protect our democracy from Trump's fascist assault.

Alliepoo

(2,768 posts)
10. He certainly is and
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 10:45 AM
Jun 2024

He’s got brains to go along with the beauty. I think he’d make a great presidential candidate. I hope I’m around to see that happen!

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
11. Not to mention extremely smart and articulate. When he.....
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:33 AM
Jun 2024

......debated Ron DeSantis, he pulled Ron's pants down, spanked him and made him cry (figuratively, of course).

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
40. He's got the brains and political savvy to go far
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jun 2024

It certainly doesn't hurt that he is very photogenic as well.

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
53. Ha, ha, ha!
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:38 PM
Jun 2024

Sorry, I've been a big supporter of Newsom since 2004 and it wasn't because of his looks. He was quite unlike most politicians and he was very progressive in his policies.

Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #14)

Response to Jacson6 (Original post)

CountAllVotes

(22,069 posts)
18. He's a slick looking city slicker
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jun 2024

and that is exactly what he is.

Never done without in his life.

electric_blue68

(25,900 posts)
19. I don't much about him... But just bc he...
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:29 PM
Jun 2024

"hasn't done without" doesn't automatically mean he doesn't have room in his heart for compassion, empathy - putting himself in other people's shoes.

I do not know bc I haven't paid that much attention to him.

CountAllVotes

(22,069 posts)
22. He is from a very well off family
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:08 AM
Jun 2024

from San Francisco.

Life on easy street for the most part.

He was mayor for two terms not long ago.

More here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Newsom

electric_blue68

(25,900 posts)
23. That still doesn't mean he could 't have empathy, compassion for people quite less well off than him....
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:13 AM
Jun 2024

Don't how he did as Mayor of San Franciso.

Sorry missed your reference material. Will read later today as I'm heading to sleep soon.

senseandsensibility

(24,240 posts)
34. Like FDR?
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:49 PM
Jun 2024

FDR was from a truly wealthy and connected family (much more so than Gavin), and the bottom 99% of us would be in much worse shape than without him. He dedicated his life to working and poor people.

whathehell

(30,355 posts)
39. FDR is ranked as America's 3rd Greatest President
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jun 2024

by historians -- Some even rate him '2nd' greatest.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
68. The biggest stain on his record is the Japanese internment
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:08 AM
Jun 2024

I guess that just makes him a product of his times, but I’d say if he’d opposed that he’d be in good running for #1.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
24. I don't think he'll play well in the Blue Wall states.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:54 AM
Jun 2024

If there were more time, he might win them over. But there won't be more time.

CountAllVotes

(22,069 posts)
25. More than one San Franciscan ...
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:58 PM
Jun 2024

Some old friends, natives live myself, do not support him.

They didn't like him as the mayor of S.F.

The governorship has been the same for them as well.



 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
30. I'm glad you said that, because I was wondering. It didn't seem that Newsom is that loved.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:30 PM
Jun 2024

CountAllVotes

(22,069 posts)
57. Many of S.F.'s mayors were not that loved
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:47 PM
Jun 2024

Long list of them and loads of corruption on the Barbary Coast!



CountAllVotes

(22,069 posts)
64. there were many
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 10:52 PM
Jun 2024

Dianne Feinstein ... not popular in The City either, esp. after the Moscone/Milk assassinations.

The one they have now named Breed is not well-loved either.

And then there was good ol' Joe Alioto

Ocelot II

(129,021 posts)
27. The same could be said of FDR and JFK.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:03 PM
Jun 2024

Both from wealthy, established families, but somehow they managed not to be thieving plutocrats as presidents. It's not so much how you got your money but what you think of it and what you do with it.

whathehell

(30,355 posts)
35. FDR and John F. Kennedy never "did without" either
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jun 2024

and they score rather well in terms of Democratic achievement..An
impoverished background is not a requirement for elective office, not even in our party.

PatSeg

(52,130 posts)
41. FDR and JFK
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:20 PM
Jun 2024

never went without financially in their lives either and most Americans hold them in very high regard.

That said, I really like Gavin Newsom. He is a great liberal voice who has some incredible progressive ideas. Back when he was mayor of San Francisco, we thought he'd run for president one day. I think that is what he is preparing for now, possibly in 2028.

whathehell

(30,355 posts)
42. "Subtety" about what, exactly?
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jun 2024

Perhaps you could drop the "subtlety" and simply say what you mean..Just a thought.

whathehell

(30,355 posts)
61. I didn't take it that way at all..
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:10 PM
Jun 2024

I do NOT want Biden to step down in favor of Newsome or anyone else...My comments were made as basically casual observations on a handsome Democrat who might make a good candidate someday...I thought the others were as well.

whathehell

(30,355 posts)
66. Not at all obvious to me, but I think
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 12:38 AM
Jun 2024

I came onto the thread later than most, if that could have made any difference.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
21. A handsome man who polls no better against Trump than Joe does.
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:46 PM
Jun 2024

Also, I'm not so sure Newsom would do well in the Blue Wall states. I live in the Midwest. A lot of folks are down on California here. The long conservative push to define California as a hellhole people are fleeing in droves has worked well. I love Cali. But a lot of folks who've never been near the place buy into the hype. Newsom has not gotten positive press in recent years. He got raked over the coals for the French Laundry incident. And the recall effort was national news that made it all the way out here. He's not going to appeal to blue collar types or seniors, I don't think. Comes across as slick, rightly or wrongly.

I'd vote for the Dem nominee no matter what. I can't see Newsom drawing lots of undecideds where it counts. And Trump has lots of appeal. We barely beat him last time. It's going to be a very, very tough fight.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
28. Being well-off certainly hasn't stopped the Kennedy family from empathy, action and caring about the less well-off.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:13 PM
Jun 2024

All but the despicable anti-vaxxer of course.

Newsom has a record or solid Dem policies of caring. He'll do ok if he runs. Our problem will be having too many great candicates in '28...Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, and whoever else emerges.

I might add btw, all of the above are attractive people. That never hurts a political candidate.

True Dough

(25,817 posts)
47. Just so happens
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:32 PM
Jun 2024

that Newsom is trending on Twitter with 138,000 recent tweets. Now, some of that is "hate" tweets from the right-wing and bots, but he's certainly generating a lot of buzz.

Mike Nelson

(10,912 posts)
55. He has the...
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:46 PM
Jun 2024

... "Presidential charisma" for sure. He's my Governor and we're very happy with him, here. Of course, he'd be good for the country, too. I love his ability to talk to FOX "News" folks, like word stumbling Sean Hannity. Gavin also responds so well to questions about replacing Joe Biden. He's been asked many times, and he always supports his President!

Sogo

(6,979 posts)
60. And thank goodness he is no longer with Kimberly Guilfoyle,
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 07:50 PM
Jun 2024

because when he becomes President, it would be a crying shame to have her as First Lady!

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