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He sure is a handsome man. (Original Post) Jacson6 Jun 28 OP
Superficial cilla4progress Jun 28 #1
What he has to say is substance. Certainly not superficial. brush Jun 29 #26
I agree PatSeg Jun 29 #38
Surfaces count, even if we don't like that fact. whathehell Jun 29 #31
And that has what to do with the price of tea??? Peacetrain Jun 28 #2
My mom used to say "what's that got to do with the price of tea in china?" captain queeg Jun 28 #5
I always heard it as the price of rice in China NoRethugFriends Jun 28 #6
so did mine.. that is where I picked that up Peacetrain Jun 28 #7
Yes he is! Dem4life1234 Jun 28 #3
With Andy Beshear, Bayard Jun 29 #48
dupe Bayard Jun 29 #49
And brains to go with it! onecaliberal Jun 28 #4
Yes he is Travel Hat Jun 28 #8
The kind of guy ... Tom of Temecula Jun 28 #9
He certainly is and Alliepoo Jun 28 #10
Not to mention extremely smart and articulate. When he..... EarnestPutz Jun 28 #11
Hard Pass krawhitham Jun 28 #12
Are we holding a beauty contest? blogslug Jun 28 #13
He's got the brains and political savvy to go far PatSeg Jun 29 #40
Thank you for reminding me blogslug Jun 29 #45
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Jun 29 #53
My only criteria for choosing a President. Nanjeanne Jun 28 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jun 29 #50
Lol...No one is citing it as such. whathehell Jun 29 #51
Post removed Post removed Jun 28 #15
I'm glad you agree. n/t Jacson6 Jun 28 #17
I think Joe is better looking flamingdem Jun 28 #16
He's a slick looking city slicker CountAllVotes Jun 28 #18
I don't much about him... But just bc he... electric_blue68 Jun 29 #19
He is from a very well off family CountAllVotes Jun 29 #22
That still doesn't mean he could 't have empathy, compassion for people quite less well off than him.... electric_blue68 Jun 29 #23
Like FDR? senseandsensibility Jun 29 #34
FDR is ranked as America's 3rd Greatest President whathehell Jun 29 #39
And for some people True Dough Jun 29 #43
Yup. whathehell Jun 29 #44
The biggest stain on his record is the Japanese internment Silent3 Jun 30 #68
I don't think he'll play well in the Blue Wall states. shrike3 Jun 29 #24
More than one San Franciscan ... CountAllVotes Jun 29 #25
I'm glad you said that, because I was wondering. It didn't seem that Newsom is that loved. shrike3 Jun 29 #30
Many of S.F.'s mayors were not that loved CountAllVotes Jun 29 #57
Thanks. Don't know much about that part of the world; I know a little more now. shrike3 Jun 29 #58
there were many CountAllVotes Jun 29 #64
The same could be said of FDR and JFK. Ocelot II Jun 29 #27
FDR and John F. Kennedy never "did without" either whathehell Jun 29 #35
FDR and JFK PatSeg Jun 29 #41
Lol..Most democratic voters LIVE in cities. whathehell Jun 29 #46
LOL. Some folks are tryin' real hard. shrike3 Jun 29 #20
Subtlety is not their strong suit! niyad Jun 29 #33
"Subtety" about what, exactly? whathehell Jun 29 #42
"tryin' real hard" to do what, exactly? whathehell Jun 29 #37
To indicate their choice of dream candidate, for lack of a better term. shrike3 Jun 29 #59
I didn't take it that way at all.. whathehell Jun 29 #61
I did. I thought the insinuation was obvious. shrike3 Jun 29 #63
Not at all obvious to me, but I think whathehell Jun 30 #66
A handsome man who polls no better against Trump than Joe does. shrike3 Jun 29 #21
Being well-off certainly hasn't stopped the Kennedy family from empathy, action and caring about the less well-off. brush Jun 29 #28
Too thin and a bad haircut EarthAbides Jun 29 #29
Joe Biden is a "white man" too..So what? whathehell Jun 29 #36
Keep trying. You are not even subtle. niyad Jun 29 #32
Just so happens True Dough Jun 29 #47
Interesting choice for Pete's VP in 2028. aeromanKC Jun 29 #52
In person he's hard not to stare at! kimbutgar Jun 29 #54
He has the... Mike Nelson Jun 29 #55
Seth looks like he's getting pretty old bigtree Jun 29 #56
And thank goodness he is no longer with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Sogo Jun 29 #60
Wide right of the uprights. Torchlight Jun 29 #62
And he is a strong supporter of President Biden. Deek1935 Jun 29 #65
Indeed he is Hekate Jun 30 #67

PatSeg

(49,533 posts)
38. I agree
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jun 29

I've been following Newsom for many years and I don't find him to be superficial at all. He is a smart man with great ideas and not afraid to put them out there. And yes, I find him really good looking as well.

 

Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
9. The kind of guy ...
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:29 AM
Jun 28

... who could ably lead the fight to protect our democracy from Trump's fascist assault.

Alliepoo

(2,381 posts)
10. He certainly is and
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 11:45 AM
Jun 28

He’s got brains to go along with the beauty. I think he’d make a great presidential candidate. I hope I’m around to see that happen!

EarnestPutz

(2,511 posts)
11. Not to mention extremely smart and articulate. When he.....
Fri Jun 28, 2024, 12:33 PM
Jun 28

......debated Ron DeSantis, he pulled Ron's pants down, spanked him and made him cry (figuratively, of course).

PatSeg

(49,533 posts)
40. He's got the brains and political savvy to go far
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:14 PM
Jun 29

It certainly doesn't hurt that he is very photogenic as well.

PatSeg

(49,533 posts)
53. Ha, ha, ha!
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:38 PM
Jun 29

Sorry, I've been a big supporter of Newsom since 2004 and it wasn't because of his looks. He was quite unlike most politicians and he was very progressive in his policies.

Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #14)

Response to Jacson6 (Original post)

electric_blue68

(16,831 posts)
19. I don't much about him... But just bc he...
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:29 AM
Jun 29

"hasn't done without" doesn't automatically mean he doesn't have room in his heart for compassion, empathy - putting himself in other people's shoes.

I do not know bc I haven't paid that much attention to him.

CountAllVotes

(20,971 posts)
22. He is from a very well off family
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 04:08 AM
Jun 29

from San Francisco.

Life on easy street for the most part.

He was mayor for two terms not long ago.

More here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Newsom

electric_blue68

(16,831 posts)
23. That still doesn't mean he could 't have empathy, compassion for people quite less well off than him....
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 04:13 AM
Jun 29

Don't how he did as Mayor of San Franciso.

Sorry missed your reference material. Will read later today as I'm heading to sleep soon.

senseandsensibility

(19,499 posts)
34. Like FDR?
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:49 PM
Jun 29

FDR was from a truly wealthy and connected family (much more so than Gavin), and the bottom 99% of us would be in much worse shape than without him. He dedicated his life to working and poor people.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
68. The biggest stain on his record is the Japanese internment
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 02:08 AM
Jun 30

I guess that just makes him a product of his times, but I’d say if he’d opposed that he’d be in good running for #1.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
24. I don't think he'll play well in the Blue Wall states.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 11:54 AM
Jun 29

If there were more time, he might win them over. But there won't be more time.

CountAllVotes

(20,971 posts)
25. More than one San Franciscan ...
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 01:58 PM
Jun 29

Some old friends, natives live myself, do not support him.

They didn't like him as the mayor of S.F.

The governorship has been the same for them as well.



CountAllVotes

(20,971 posts)
57. Many of S.F.'s mayors were not that loved
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jun 29

Long list of them and loads of corruption on the Barbary Coast!



CountAllVotes

(20,971 posts)
64. there were many
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 11:52 PM
Jun 29

Dianne Feinstein ... not popular in The City either, esp. after the Moscone/Milk assassinations.

The one they have now named Breed is not well-loved either.

And then there was good ol' Joe Alioto

Ocelot II

(119,188 posts)
27. The same could be said of FDR and JFK.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:03 PM
Jun 29

Both from wealthy, established families, but somehow they managed not to be thieving plutocrats as presidents. It's not so much how you got your money but what you think of it and what you do with it.

whathehell

(29,518 posts)
35. FDR and John F. Kennedy never "did without" either
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:58 PM
Jun 29

and they score rather well in terms of Democratic achievement..An
impoverished background is not a requirement for elective office, not even in our party.

PatSeg

(49,533 posts)
41. FDR and JFK
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:20 PM
Jun 29

never went without financially in their lives either and most Americans hold them in very high regard.

That said, I really like Gavin Newsom. He is a great liberal voice who has some incredible progressive ideas. Back when he was mayor of San Francisco, we thought he'd run for president one day. I think that is what he is preparing for now, possibly in 2028.

whathehell

(29,518 posts)
42. "Subtety" about what, exactly?
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:22 PM
Jun 29

Perhaps you could drop the "subtlety" and simply say what you mean..Just a thought.

whathehell

(29,518 posts)
61. I didn't take it that way at all..
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 09:10 PM
Jun 29

I do NOT want Biden to step down in favor of Newsome or anyone else...My comments were made as basically casual observations on a handsome Democrat who might make a good candidate someday...I thought the others were as well.

whathehell

(29,518 posts)
66. Not at all obvious to me, but I think
Sun Jun 30, 2024, 01:38 AM
Jun 30

I came onto the thread later than most, if that could have made any difference.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
21. A handsome man who polls no better against Trump than Joe does.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 12:46 AM
Jun 29

Also, I'm not so sure Newsom would do well in the Blue Wall states. I live in the Midwest. A lot of folks are down on California here. The long conservative push to define California as a hellhole people are fleeing in droves has worked well. I love Cali. But a lot of folks who've never been near the place buy into the hype. Newsom has not gotten positive press in recent years. He got raked over the coals for the French Laundry incident. And the recall effort was national news that made it all the way out here. He's not going to appeal to blue collar types or seniors, I don't think. Comes across as slick, rightly or wrongly.

I'd vote for the Dem nominee no matter what. I can't see Newsom drawing lots of undecideds where it counts. And Trump has lots of appeal. We barely beat him last time. It's going to be a very, very tough fight.

brush

(56,298 posts)
28. Being well-off certainly hasn't stopped the Kennedy family from empathy, action and caring about the less well-off.
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 02:13 PM
Jun 29

All but the despicable anti-vaxxer of course.

Newsom has a record or solid Dem policies of caring. He'll do ok if he runs. Our problem will be having too many great candicates in '28...Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, and whoever else emerges.

I might add btw, all of the above are attractive people. That never hurts a political candidate.

True Dough

(18,929 posts)
47. Just so happens
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jun 29

that Newsom is trending on Twitter with 138,000 recent tweets. Now, some of that is "hate" tweets from the right-wing and bots, but he's certainly generating a lot of buzz.

Mike Nelson

(10,209 posts)
55. He has the...
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jun 29

... "Presidential charisma" for sure. He's my Governor and we're very happy with him, here. Of course, he'd be good for the country, too. I love his ability to talk to FOX "News" folks, like word stumbling Sean Hannity. Gavin also responds so well to questions about replacing Joe Biden. He's been asked many times, and he always supports his President!

Sogo

(5,539 posts)
60. And thank goodness he is no longer with Kimberly Guilfoyle,
Sat Jun 29, 2024, 08:50 PM
Jun 29

because when he becomes President, it would be a crying shame to have her as First Lady!

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