And Fake Hillbilly gave himself enough rope to be tied to the nomination.

Funny that the white-haired fly magnet is missing from the ticket this go-round!

He could hand over $1B and not miss it.

Musk just made $$$ donation to Trump Super PAC last week...

Peter Thiel is Vance's puppet master.

How much do you think they paid Trump?
For the campaign and Trump's personal off shore account?

Any other promises made?

We'll soon know how much.

I will be curious to see the actual numbers.

Until the campaign is over?

They are so done with democracy.

Thiel is his master. He may kiss Trump's ass, but he'll absolutely be doing Thiel's bidding.

... and told him to pick Vance. Don't know who, but it will become obvious sooner or later.

Maybe Tim Mellon, or Peter Thiel, or ??? A lot of money changed hands, I'm sure of it.

There could be more of course.

How much money do you think?

My guess is that's part of the deal, or it's Thiel's choice.

Trump may appear to ramble on and on, but the ideas never change.

VP slot to flip to POTUS at some point.

Theil is worth $8 billion.
He can well afford one billion dollars.

And if Vance makes it to WH and Thiel to the Supreme Court he can earn back his investment easily.

I mean, would Peter Thiel divorce his husband, or would already-married gay couples get grandfathered in?

Honestly, it would be easier for him to just hire someone to do all the scutwork of sitting and hearing cases a few months out of the year.

The GOP elite does not care about abortion, LGBT, etc issues.
It is just red meat for the cult members.

And the GOP is immune from any laws and rules.
They are exempt of course.

They use the laws to protect and enrich themselves.
And to punish and control everyone else.

But yes you have a point.
Thiel is rich enough to just hire a lackey to sit on the bench
and do the dirty work. Like he is doing with Vance.

I don't think Trump would sell it for less than $10 million.

Rubio has a kind of wimpy vibe and Burgum is just bland. Vance is as mean as a snake so he's perfect, and never mind all the B.S. about TFG wanting to tone down the rhetoric and "bring the country together." He was never going to even try, because his base doesn't want all that kind and friendly stuff. They want mean; that's why they liked TFG in the first place.

People were begging for the VP slot.
Trump would of course have monetized it.

But yes the mean, nasty vibe was an attraction for Trump.
However, there are many mean nasty people Trump could have chosen.

Most likely some greenbacks tipped the scales.

But Vance's basic meanness probably tipped the scales.

Irresistible combination for Trump.

Thiel is also said to want a Supreme Court spot.

Vance has his fingers in many pies, with connections to Elaine Chao's family (Mrs. McConnell, also ultra rich Chinese shipping family); Rumble (right-wing YouTube substitute), and also that sketchy opioid treatment/prevention nonprofit, which did...nothing much.

https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-venture-capital-opioid-nonprofit-tech-record-ohio-senate-2021-8?op=1

No paywall: https://archive.is/kkovt

Also, it's worth noting that Vance's wife clerked for Injustice Roberts and worked for (with?) Brett Kavanaugh.

They're all thick as thieves.

so Trump will look tall next to him.

He is not going to leave any paper trails.

Campaigns are a perfect way to launder money via dark money contributions.

I need details, all of them.

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and I don't really believe this one yet, but if I had to choose one, this would make the most sense:

Whether or not Trump was neutralized, the attempt could be viewed as a win-win situation for certain members of the GOP. As a martyr it would energize the party to support someone like Vance.

Vance seems to be associated with donors who have incredible financial resources and could cover the tracks.

The shooter seems to fit the profile of a "never Trumper" Republican.
There may have been a pause before giving the go-ahead to kill the shooter who was spotted by counter-snipers. This is likely under investigation.

That's all I can say on the matter...

On edit: I should point out that according to Snopes, the 4chan post by the man who claims to be the counter-sniper is "unfounded" and the police depts involved have no record of anyone with the name given:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/claims-4chan-post-self-proclaimed-172000287.html

When it comes to Trump, Putin, the GOP nothing is off the table in terms of possibilities.

Most law abiding people have a very hard time wrapping their heads around what these people
are capable of. Trump is a ruthless criminal and those are the kind of people he partners with.

The stakes are very high and they will do anything to get what they want.
Money and power. Everything else is just collateral damage.

I agree, there are serious questions about the rally and what exactly went down.
The puzzling gap between identifying a shooter on a roof and neutralization is one of them.

One of Vance's backer is worth $8B and very ruthless.

Link to tweet

Trump can play golf and pretend to be the nice easy going one.

So now we have the big liars ticket on the right.

Who will do anything for money and power.

Putin showed the GOP how to get permanent and total power.
And access to all state financial assets.

And how to terrorize the population into compliance.

Nazi

Thiel most likely just paid Trump a fortune to put his boy Vance on the ticket.

Vance is a liar. Born and raised in Middletown. Not in Appalachia at all. He’s a flatlander all the way.

He is worth $8 billion.

Trump would not give these two jobs away for free.

Yes the FF are rolling over in their graves.
It would break their hearts to see all of this happening.
They risked their lives to establish this democracy.
And it is being sold out to the highest bidder and our enemies.

Just read article on breaking news form that the majority of people are willing to fight against tfg than for him. Not that I want that. These magots have been wanting violence for years and I think it’s closer than people want to believe. I worked with them at the plant I used to work at. They are mainly ex-Navy but some of the other branches also. They are scary.
But not going down that path. I truly believe that Biden has this. I had a supervisor at work and he always told me that people will do the right thing.

Trump might attempt to appear 'Lincolnesque' in his acceptance speech,
but Vance is his signal to the deplorable party base
that nothing has changed. "Watch what I do, not what I say"

Trump would want more than that.

but he very well may have blown drumpf as a loyalty test, especially after the past things Vance has said about him...

Especially if the request is made with a lot of cash attached.

Immunity for vance.

This is one reason Vance is strutting around the convention like the king of the mountain.
He has been anointed and immune for all crimes he will commit.

Money still talks.

So what did the minders offer Trump?

But I'm sure he had to clean his beard thoroughly afterward.

for his stance on abortion.

There had to be a personal benefit to Trump.

There are many other christian VP candidates.

I'm just guessing here?

Not an evangelical.

But yes the Christian angle is part of the window dressing.