Just sent Joe another donation today, if we have his back he'll have ours

Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont said that only 1/3 of democrats support Biden staying in. He said the debate was the kicker. He would certainly vote for Biden but wishes the nominee would be someone else. Of course the interviewer did not ask “well, who do you have in mind?”.
So, is this figure of 1/3 coming from internal polling data?
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Fuck dude, back that shot up.

Ass. It was only 2/3s inserted

14 million voted for Biden.

Polls are only a snapshot of the moment.

There were no other major candidates running, as is the case with most incumbent presidents.

Biden should've passed the torch. We could've then selected a younger candidate - whether that turned out to be Harris or someone else.

Think they'll any kinder to Kamala Harris? Think again.

No. He shouldn't have! He's our president.

What I mean to say is, I feel like the people who actually already have voted for the man, aren't being asked a damn thing, and my sense is (at least here on DU), that all of us are at least 80% for him staying in.

So where the fuck are these numbers coming from?

As an aside, it's not ALL OF US that took the crazy pills and are living in the Insulated Bubble...is it?

President Biden has done and is doing a great job as our President.

The numbers, all of them, demonstrate that.

He did poorly at the beauty contest which means next to squat

Even 538’s polls have him up by 3 in the average of their polls right now.

So what gives? Nervous democrats who need to check the actual records and receipts before spewing nonsense on the board.

There are always nervous democrats.
This is a Murdoch narrative we should throw out so we can unify behind Joe and Kamala !!

when the idiots on the TV machine start yammering to each other about the latest OTHER poll that shows him down??

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I remember the average of polls (at RCP, I think) said President Obama was allegedly losing to Senator Romney in August and September before the election in 2012.

I also know mr trump has paid to change polls in his favor in the past.

What do polls mean before Labor Day? Polls can make you chicken little and they are as moot as any debate.

It does trouble me that polls claim many don’t know our economy is humming much better than usual for a lot more of us.

I think we should shout how good everything is from the rooftops. We need our friends and family to know what is going on despite the lies aired daily on Sinclair so that democrats win up and down the ballot.

Crime is way down
The economy is growing and wages are raising faster than inflation
People are generally happy (except for Mr trump and co) we are a happy country right now. Ask around.
The world is relieved (the free and yearning to be free part of it) that Joe Biden is our president. These are very good things to bring to any table. So bring them

No matter who the candidate is the Republican candidates and “experts” and media will keep on lying and inventing nonsense.

We need to stand firm against the gop framing or be captured by it and lose ourselves ( imho )

The only time I think Trump led in 538’s model in 2016 was right after the Republican convention, when he had like a 55% of winning for a few days. I don’t recall him ever leading in 2020. Their last prediction gave Obama about a 91% chance of winning in 2012 if I remember correctly and made Nate famous when he called every state correctly (he even switched Florida to a very light blue the morning of the election).

Still, I am not trusting 538, Lichtman, or any other experts. I think David Pakman was the one who said this election has a sample size of n=1 when it comes to similar elections: we’ve never had a rematch of the same race four years later when both candidates have been presidents, we haven’t had a pair of candidates that are the oldest in history, nor one who is a convicted felon who tried to overturn the results of the previous election and is yet somehow ahead if the polls are to be believed. Oh and one whose party is trying to convince the winner of the primary to step aside. This truly is uncharted territory. And I think there will be plenty of more plot twists to come before (and possibly after) Election Day. When an assassination attempt is the headline news for about 48 hours you know this isn’t normal.

This is not normal. Polling is bizarre too. Polls claim that President Biden has stolen the most reliable voters, older folks, from the republicans while I am also supposed to believe that young men of color are turning trump. Polls want me to believe that a large majority of us reject Trump’s lies and lawlessness but will still see him re-elected. The polls are screwy and unreliable.

Nonetheless, the advantages of incumbency are obvious and have not vanished. Professor Lichtman has a better track record too than polls in mid-July.

Incidentally, President Biden is great at the job and the other guy was truly terrible.

It really is morning in America again. Can you not feel it in your everyday life?

Things are different no doubt; we are much much better off than we were four years ago.

I wouldn't answer. How do I know they are who they say they are anyway? I don't answer my (landline) unless it is someone I know, and i have no answering machine, and don't use a cell.

Does he get out much?

This poll -- like all polls -- needs to be explained in context and it is all a hypothetical.

The poll found that one-third of democrats said they would prefer having another candidate running rather than Joe Biden.
It does not imply that they dislike Biden personally.
It does not imply that they aren't going to vote for him in November.
It does imply, in my opinion, that a lot of democrats are rightly scared about losing to that Ass-Hat and the fallout that it
would have on our country.
The same poll allegedly asked if they would vote for Biden in November if he were the candidate, and the response
was overwhelmingly positive, as in "YES" they would get out to vote and vote for Biden.

The Dems need to make a firm, final decision AND communicate that decision clearly, forcefully, and without
equivocation about President Biden -- NOW. The ambivalence and indecisiveness is hurting our chances, not
helping them. The rumor mill needs to be shut down. We appear to be confused and foolish. We can do better!

to both Biden and Harris asking them to stay in.

At least there will be a tick mark for me in the daily tally.

Is totally uninterested in politics for the most part, (he hates trump!) sent Biden an email two days ago telling him to get out the big guns. Don’t pull anymore punches. I was really surprised! He’s always been a democrat, but never does this.

Hear…. Mahalo to you and your husband!

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The hubby lived in Hawaii for a while. He wants to go back.

Hope you get over here again if That’s what you want. 🌊💙🦈🏝️🌈🌸

brain not working so well today!

It’s so Surreal.. PJB, his stalwart Team and We Voters VS The children coup

I also wrote to the White House asking Joe to stay in - courtesy of a link provided here + and phoned my 2 senators and congresswoman!

But when Moscow Mitch was the senate majority leader - he seemed to outthink Schumer every day of the week.

And now Sen. Schumer is the senate majority leader and I’m not impressed.

I support Biden staying in the race. Schumer has not come out against Biden. He and Jeffries, as leaders in their respective houses, have carried out their responsibilities to Biden and our party to keep Biden informed of where Congress stands. Jeffries said that the conversation was a good one. He and Schumer were acting as messengers, not as advocates for either side.

Jeffries has made public statements in support of Biden. He has not announced a change in his view.

Regardless of media pundit interpretation of the visit, for all we know, the 3 men could have discussed strategy for Biden's continued campaign.

to make some things known. Since the issue is age, I suggest that should Biden lose ( I think it unlikely) then, there should be a purge of leadership who is also aged; Chuck Schumer is 73 years old, Nancy Pelosi is 84 years old, not to mention quite a few octogenarian congress critters presently sitting. If Joe goes; they go.

I don't know what's going on but I don't like it! They don't get to speak for us. This is still a democracy.

Everything else is just speculation, hearsay, and/or agitprop.

So much speculation and what ifs going on. I’ve never seen it this bad here. We should be bashing Trump, Vance and the other fascists.

`I want to hear the words come out of his mouth that he is not running.
Anything else is rumor AFAIC.

THERE! A little Catholic school for ya!

https://www.bibleref.com/1-Corinthians/13/1-Corinthians-13-1.html

(We heard and studied this one a lot.)

Our party is in the grip of megadonors who think they call the shots. They don't. Joe should keep telling them to fuck off.

We will make up any shortfall. We have Joe's back, just as he has always had ours.

I too fear that this is what's going on. Complete with strategic leaks.

I'm with Qutzupalotl. It's time to get mean about our passion for Joe. We're not wavering, so if they don't like Joe because he's too much a common man, like the rest of us, the fuck off corporate media and corporate donors!

"I'm staying. If you don't want to believe me, F* off."

It's a derivative work, no license, no attribution needed.
Nor wanted!

Handiwork by GIMP on Mac.

I wouldn't expect his campaign to say anything different.

Sitting on the sidelines comments aren’t helpful!

...Joe Biden has many more delegates than he needs to win the nomination on the first round at the convention.

That compares to a few detractors with their hands full of shit they're flinging around like that's a campaign or something.

There may well be headway made among the folks participating in the media fantasy election game in the media.

But no other Democrat is going to carry enough delegates into that convention to beat Joe Biden. Their only hope is for the him to agree to voluntarily become a lame duck in this race and in his presidency.

Are they high?

to step aside, according to recent reports.

He’s not a closed door kind of leader.

winning campaigns in GAl

...and he has to live with that press for the duration.

He doesn't need to be rude to get his point across, and it's not really smart to pick fights with the press; not really PJB's style, either.

He relates what the president wants him to relate to the press, the way the president wants him to.

And, it's just a figure of speech, ffs.

Midastouch Network!

I listen every day!!

Take a clue, Senator-in-waiting Schiff!

This should make Schiff squirm.

$75.00! GO JOE!

...this DCM speaks for the president.

Why does the internet do this? This man is one of the best spokespersons I've seen in this job.

Nothing's stopping us from being rude, but we're not responsible for managing Joe Biden's campaign.

Randos on the internet aren't sufficient.

I think surrogates are usually the ones who do things like this, but half of ours are adding to the narrative we need to quash.

...crying about why the public isn't buying their B.S. this time.

To back off ? Cos this is becoming more stupid by the hour.

Keeping checking back with Joe to find out if they have pressured him enough, and conned/bribed enough Dems to make him give up.

It's so stupidly obvious that the GOP and Putin are wetting themselves over the possibility of the encumbent just fading away.

Don't buy into the Russian trolls, bots and bribes. They know the encumbent almost always has the advantage. And an encumbent has never lost because he was older.

President Biden goes way beyond rude.

Go Joe! Ridin' with Biden' and standin' with Brandon all the way!

by this time next week.

watching the news that Biden withdrew from the race.

watching news about Biden's withdrawal from the race.

I haven’t read all of our comments, but this was my first thought. Now I have some comment reading to do.

As we all will, you short-sighted *}%=!!!

Here's what these people seem unwilling to understand---Its too late to be pushing another candidate. Stand behind Biden, or prepare for trump. It's time to get rude with these self-defeating morons.

I am very disappointed in Schumer and Schiff.

It's like the politician part of their brains suddenly stopped working.

Haven't seen you since 2009, fam!

...contradicts my own more superior crystal ball.

Biden has plenty of time to overcome a phony media narrative.

Trump will always be a convicted felon/tax fraud/ adjudicated rapist, still facing multiple felony charges for trying to overturn the election with rioters who ransacked the Capitol, and theft of hundreds of classified documents that he refused to return, including some of the nation's most sensitive nuclear secrets.

This election is a binary choice with one candidate a convicted criminal and failed president, not just a referendum on Biden's successful presidency or his competency in office.

That we are alone. The Democratic Donor Class, for whatever their reasons, don't want to listen to the people.
The so-called "movers & shakers" think they know best for the party, therefore the nation. I say, that they're wrong.
No matter what, WE THE PEOPLE, have the final say. No matter how many billions they have in the bank, they have the same number of votes...one. And there are more of US than there are of THEM.
They want to stamp their feet and get their way; 14 million people spoke, and that's it. We're ridin' with Biden. They can either get on and pitch in or get off and get out of the way.

I don't take counsel from political backbenchers, backstabbers, professional pundits with their unnamed sources, skeevy pollsters, and especially skeerdy cat political leaders who don't have the heart or the stomach for a fight. "These are times that try men's souls" wrote Thomas Paine. "The summer soldier and sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserve the thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered."
We are faced with the greatest existential threat to this democracy since The Civil War. Yes, there were fascists among us during World War 2, but their leader, was in Germany and even then, we were at war against them. But this is different; the call is coming from inside the house and it's The Republican Party led by their MAGA leader, Donald Trump.

Make no mistake, he and they are a threat. And I'm not being hyperbolic. They are reminiscent of the of the Black Shirts of Mussolini's fascist Italy, and he, their "Il Duce" wannabe. What's even more insidious, is the cooperation of the media in their exaltation of Trump to the point of fealty. And we've seen this movie before:

We've got you.

“Rude”.

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Link to tweet

The People's Choice!

ramp up donations and energy.

Really illustrates how badly we need to get private money out of politics though.