We just lost the incumbency key and maybe more.

and with a better ability to speak on the Biden accomplishments.

I just listened to Allan Lichtman explain that we only keep the incumbency key if Biden steps down and Harris becomes president. We may retain the contest key if the Democrats are united and easily nominate Harris. We are 3 keys down and 4 shaky ones. Looking for 3rd party, social unrest, foreign/military failure and success, which are the uncertain keys.

I will support all democratic candidates in every general election. But don’t look for that same unconditional support for incumbents beyond that. Primary season, I vote my conscience. And I hold grudges.

We need to get support behind those that would rent for the house and Senate so we still need to not only vote but at least a few dollars and we need to get out promote them but what we don’t have to do is ever go and see if like another movie that George Clooney is involved in for example.
And every time we donate or do anything to support another Canidate, we can say we do this in the name of Joe Biden.

Just so you know, I fully supported Joe
I am crying. I don’t really have money to support people either or the ability to much but I know we can’t abandon all candidates right now.

Let the donors pay for the rest, they made the decision.

Same

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I was 100% behind a Biden/Harris ticket. I am now 100% behind Kamala Harris and will donate and vote for her and whomever she chooses for a running mate. That said, I am grieving, angry, disappointed in many people I once had respect for, and just feeling like crap right now. I will likely continue to feel like this for awhile. I also realize that it would be shortsighted to not support all the Dems that I am currently angry at and disappointed in. Trump and Trumplicans are still a threat. I will work towards defeating Repubs this time around and then make decisions on how I vote for some Dems in later elections. That said, George Clooney is not someone who needs my support in any way. He won't miss the $30 I had been planning on spending on his movie.

I intend to give as much as I can. I didn’t want this, but now that it’s happened, I intend to do what I can.

ransom any minute now, I'm sure.

The national orgs are funded by "our betters", and don't work for our good anyway. We're definitely finding that out now.

They managed to not just force out an incumbent president right before an election, but a HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL president. They don't need our money, the candidates do.

when that was said in the past, it was fighting words. When people didn't get what they wanted in the party, the line was suck it up and support the nominee. Interesting how that has changed here.

get a pony. Is that what you call democracy?

hurt feelings and anger aside and concentrate on saving democracy. In a 50:50 country, we’re each going to do all we can to put Democrats over the top.

to donate. Forget it. Let the Big Money Donors fund this now. I will vote blue but refuse to give money to support these political shenanigans.

I've has SERIOUS doubts about a lot of texts pleaded for money that don't go thru Act Blue, or DU

Am I cynical enough to wonder if GOP or other con artists are sending texts hoping we will send THEM money, thinking we are support DEM candidate? YES I FUCKING AM THAT CYNICAL. I am not supporting maga hooligans and con men accidentally.

Only donate to a site YOU go to and know to be legit. DO NOT click on links that come from text messages. If you don't initiate the contact, don't give. ALWAYS verify.

donations for Kamala Harris

and, as has been done with banks, there can be cloned sites that are bogus but look like the real deal. ONLY give to site you personally went to on your own, not a link from a random text or email.

by a link from an email. google it

My point is: SOME of the texts being sent may well not be legit so people shouldn't click those links. Instead, go directly to the site and avoid ANY chance of a link that might send you to a cloned site and do bad things with your card #. It's the same consumer protection advice banks give their customers.

who pressured some politicians to call for Biden to step down from the race.

whatever they do. Make movies, write books, own businesses. We could have a list it is a boycott.
But support any abd all Dems until at least the election is over, Then we can work on replacing the ones that did this to Joe.
My concern is more for America and us than my hurt feelings right now.

Vent to day rant and then please get behind all the Dems so we can get the house Hopefully by wide margins improve on our numbers in the Senate again hopefully with wide enough margins we can do somethings and Keep Americas house.
Joe is backing Kamala and advise on any advise she would ask I am sure.

I feel like I've punched in the gut and I haven't recovered yet. Meanwhile, it rather feels like a lot of people are "dancing on Joe's metaphorical grave" already. I'm still grieving and very angry at a whole lot of people.

and there's the overwelming feeling of doom.

And yes, there are people dancing on his grave. It sickens me.

Watching people switch gears so easily and so quickly is unsettling.

All this spontaneous over the top enthusiasm on social media makes me very uncomfortable.

Almost as if no one knew VP Harris was already on the ticket.

So what happens when the big money donors change their mind again in two weeks? two months?

And after all Joe has done for the economy and the stock market, they'll still turn on him to get more tax breaks.

As for the over the top enthusiasm, I understand people saying stakes are high and we have to move forward, but too many people seem like they are enjoying all of this while people are still processing the shock. Even people within the administration and the campaign didn't find out until today.

I agree with you. I resent being told to develop amnesia.

that it seems to come so easily for some. My support was genuine and heartfelt. I can't just turn it on and off like a lightswitch.

That only makes me more angry and disillusioned.

All the accusations about us not voting. No one is saying they won’t vote.

We are saying we are pissed as hell and some of those top people sure as hell better be right.

And if they can’t stand the heat from some of us they shouldn’t have started the fire.

Humans disappoint people all the time. They are the ones that should get over it.

It's good to know I'm not alone.

For many of us, this was really a major blow, but for others, it is just politics as usual and after just hours, I'm not ready for all the upbeat, optimistic campaign planning.

To see all the threads about who would be the best Democratic ticket so soon after Joe dropped out was depressing. It is like if someone died and everyone tries to find a new spouse for the widow/widower before there is even a funeral.

but that taste will stay with us for a very long time, much like when Trump was elected. In a sense, I will never actually get over it and I may have trust issues for a very long time.

He had some of the worst numbers for an incumbent president. Nobody with an approval rating under 40% has every won - it was shaping up to be a landslide loss that would've taken down Congress with it.

It was also what we could see with our own eyes. Biden was struggling with basic questions, and being behind, there was no way he would be able to make up that ground.

Any normal Dem could win this race - because they could campaign energetically in a way that Biden no longer could.

He made the correct decision, and now the party has to come together to defeat Trump.

I think a lot of people were looking for a reason to undermine his candidacy.

The Dems and the mediia

The drip drip drip and leaks is what has enraged so many. It should have all been occurring behind closed doors.
Those that participated in that process deserve all the pushback they're getting.

Pelosi - who is a political genius and one of the greatest leaders in American history - would not have organized a pressure campaign if she didn't feel it was absolutely necessary. The data clearly pointed to disaster, and just watching Biden (not just the debate, but even follow up appearances) showed he was not going to be capable of making up ground.

Biden did the right thing, and we all need to unite behind the ticket to beat Trump.

Grassroots donations are important and indicate the true will of the people. It’s going to take much more than just our votes to get her across the finish line.

I am a monthly donor to the BIDEN/HARRIS campaign. I see how much the "true will of the people" was respected.

And my wife and I will continue to donate as much as we can possibly afford, because at the end of the day, I don’t care if I am voting for a brain in a jar on a shelf so long as it’s a vote against fascism, and the big money people need to see that popular support for Democratic ideals is NOT tied to personalities.

Money over voters misguided… asking for money now, misguided.

Your votes were not “thrown out.” The candidate recognized that the political headwinds were too strong and his energy too low to combat them, so he passed the baton to his second-in-command and now it’s her job to run with it and it’s our job to provide support as much as humanly possible in every way that’s possible.

“Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best.
— Otto von Bismarck

You talked to the candidate,right?

“While it has been my intention to seek reelection, I believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me to stand down and to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as President for the remainder of my term.”

Joe Biden July 21, 2024

the Dem leadership, their donors and the media. It wasn’t organic.

I believe it found the least painful solution to many of those problems. I understand that some would disagree on the solution but the decisions have been made and everyone needs to get their hands on the oars and start rowing as if their lives depended on it, else Joe Biden’s sacrifice will have been in vain.

don't care about grass roots.

I donated to Joe this am. Got the shaft a bit later.

I’m not feeling many comforting vibes for those who have just had their foundation swiped away.

the sharpened knives come out for VP Harris.

Then the big money donors may decide they want someone else, and they'll get their new toy, because they know what to do to get it.

Trust was broken. I don't trust anyone now.

They wanted the big bucks from those billionaires. I wonder how it feels to be bought and paid for?

Not sure where that money goes now.

When you donated to Biden, you were donating to the Biden/Harris ticket. That money stays with her.

She will be the nominee

All this exuberant jubilation over VP Harris seems premature.

And many previous times as well. I had counted that as my last donation as I can't afford anymore. My vote is about all I can give now. I hope it's enough.

One of those two choices would be a selfish choice, and I doubt that you are a selfish person. I know you feel demoralized and angry, but imagine how much worse you will feel if Trump wins.

Deep down, I don't think you, or anyone on DU, would sacrifice the future of our nation's children to feel self-righteous, to feel justified, or to give into the temptations of despondency.

fund those who told Biden to drop out. I have the list and you are free to fund their campaigns.

and for that, I apologize.

primary and a presumptive nominee. All that was taken away.

It's disgraceful the way Biden was treated.

Why wouldn't you
add the option of Biden himself realized he doesn't have the strength. Do you really think he himself didn't know he was getting weaker, and seriously worried about 4 1/2 more years of presidency? Please stop pretending Joe could jog up stairs like 4 years ago. Even he knew it was hard for him to board air force 1.

This is not about that. This is about something else. He was forced into his decision. Good day to you, sir or madam.

Thanks in advance for you clarifying this for me.

in response to his assertion that this wasn't a personal decision by Biden - that he was forced into it.

These assertions by the prior poster also seem to be based on personal conversations or perhaps mind-reading too, hence my confusion.

I agree with you completely.

NT

didn't make walking any easier.

We never learn

A child could recognize that right wing hit job on Al Franken.

I will never forgive smarmy Gillibrand.

Because just yesterday he was talking about getting ready to campaign and that we would win.

accuracy that he wrote that? it might have been staff sending out that stuff to maintain donors.