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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA wall of American MAGAt female gammon from a Wisconsin Trumper focus group
spitting pure hate against Harris (including multiple assholes who said or agreed she has done nothing in her life, ignoring her being the CA AG, a US Senator, and now VP).
The biggest fool was a school teacher who said Harris would destroy the education system and Trump would protect it.
Pro tip: Project 2025 calls for the end of the Dept of Education and an explosion in private school vouchers, plus mandated christofash, white nationalist-adjacent curriculum.
Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name. It is characterised in this context by the Oxford English Dictionary as occurring "in various parasynthetic adjectives referring to particularly reddish or florid complexions". In 2018, it became particularly known as a term to describe either those on the political right or those who supported Brexit.
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Raven123
(5,800 posts)I just cant watch these focus group interviews.
hatrack
(60,260 posts)![](/emoticons/rofl.gif)
possible the media wants to show everyone how stupid some of these maga people are as well as what hypocrites they are.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)Scrivener7
(52,011 posts)![](/emoticons/laughing.gif)
Hugin
(34,210 posts)* biting tongue so hard it bleeds *
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)Also, I want to have a slumber party with these gals so we can braid each others hair and play truth or dare and freeze someone's underwear as a prank.
Scrivener7
(52,011 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(26,886 posts)JFC, it would be the slumber party from hell.
BigDemVoter
(4,430 posts)Jeezus H. Christ. . . .
malaise
(274,653 posts)Listening to young people after this.
I agree - way too long is mild.
mucifer
(24,468 posts)BoRaGard
(2,014 posts)That they are a sorry lot. They have not checked out Kamala at all for themselves, or they would not be spouting such shallow untruths. They have obviously just opened wide and swallowed the republicon-russian propaganda, without so much as a critical thought flitting through their minds. They are parroting what they have been programmed (Fox) to spew.
Sad.
Vinca
(50,698 posts)would make about them if he happened to watch. Love to be a fly on that wall . . . recording it.
XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)And calling Security if they showed up at Mar lago. Believe me.
mucholderthandirt
(654 posts)They are not allowed their own opinions, their super religious spouses are the head of the house, they rule all. If they are told to hate, they hate. If they are told to shut up, they shut up.
I think women politicians need to seriously think about what happens to them if Trump is elected. The party line is women have no voice. They will be gone from politics, business, religious leadership.
I was married to a born-again Republican nut for far too long. At our very first election, he told me, in public, that I was going into the booth (still had the curtains and all the levers back then) and vote straight Republican. That sure got everybody's attention.
I turned to him and calmly said that I was not going to do so, I was going to vote for the people I wanted, which were Democrats. (I actually used some crude and hateful language that I won't repeat, but it included the phrases "free" and "over twenty-one". It was an awful thing, and it slipped out.) He wasn't the boss of me, and I wasn't going to be told what my conscience was.
That election was Ronald Reagan against Walter Mondale. I wasn't crazy about Mondale, but I knew Reagan was a total shit and wasn't getting my vote no matter what.
Kaleva
(37,447 posts)Dem4life1234
(355 posts)Don't blame the husbands, these women are just as nasty themselves and racist.
uponit7771
(91,048 posts)XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)Annoying. And stupid. I enjoyed their worries
Celerity
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XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)In an older, over weight grey haired white woman... but I knew they were trumpers immediately...lol... they're worried Harris is galvinizing young voters...she is... saying she's an idiot who never accomplished anything? Wow
Celerity
(46,154 posts)XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)The one who said Harris didn't do anything in her life... jaw dropping arrogance. Id say that if Harris was a white man. Just insulting and ridiculous as Hell.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)![](https://i.gyazo.com/36b5a1a70e8022a89942be3f5ac0667c.png)
Bookreadingliberal53
(27 posts)I bet theyd be sitting out this election if Nikki Haley was the nominee instead of Trump.
riversedge
(71,919 posts)what they were saying ( I am guilty at I could easily drop 10 lbs!!). Anyway-the image just stuck me and I am sure it stuck others also. I am not a doc but obesity is Big problem for many of these women in this segment.
haele
(13,144 posts)Most will be dead in their mid-70's with complications from complications from diabetes, arthritis, and hypertension; mid 60's if the GOP has their way and prescription drugs (or access to a real doctor or other medical professionals) become pretty much unobtainable unless one is making 6 figures.
They don't realize that once they stop working, popping out kids, or being able to provide free in-home daycare for grandkids, they're pretty much a loss to the GOP's idea of "productivity".
And they are not wealthy enough to have earned the right to live in "retirement" in GOP world.
Haele
riversedge
(71,919 posts)riversedge
(71,919 posts)Scrivener7
(52,011 posts)But, hey, how are you feeling??
XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)Stomach still rumbling with gas. Lost hoping this removal solved this issue. Ty 4 asking
debm55
(30,034 posts)XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)Stomach still rumbling. Concerning. That was a major symptom. Of course I just had the surgery yesterday. Ty for asking. Very kind
Blaukraut
(5,828 posts)No snark. They looked like sisters.
Captain Zero
(7,271 posts)Who like ice cream a lot too.
Jilly_in_VA
(10,606 posts)Es mucho jamón para dos huevos.
Ocelot II
(119,039 posts)And here's some more. Maybe there's a good market for Thighmasters, though.
Prairie Gates
(2,133 posts)They have been told that age old ways of maintaining your health (yoga, walking, running, biking and other daily exercise, moderation and deliberateness in food and drink) are the province of elite liberal scum who hate them. As they suffer the effects of consumerism, toxic foodways, and poor health regimes (which is also a result of economic oppression), they grow to hate those who have been taught and practice other ways. It's a terrible cycle. I'll just add the proviso that the "elite liberal scum" ways are also a product of consumerism and have other issues, but if you eat relatively healthy and have long-standing exercise habits, you are at least engaging in *less* toxic pre-consumerist practices, even if you are doing so as a "lifestyle brand."
Tadpole Raisin
(1,289 posts)so awful. Opinions based on hate. She hasnt done anything bs!
I couldnt take it.
XanaDUer2
(12,614 posts)Dem4life1234
(355 posts)Just look at them.
They got nothing going for themselves.
soandso
(313 posts)Wow.
AkFemDem
(2,009 posts)They're disgusting because they defend a lying, thieving, racist, rapist and insult an accomplished, amazing woman ... not because of their body weight. Newsflash- plenty of democrat women are overweight too. Your comments are really hurtful to those of us who live in bigger bodies.
GusBob
(7,428 posts)Love learning new words thanks
I would say a "Wall of Karens" could apply
dobleremolque
(816 posts)Self Esteem
(838 posts)AllaN01Bear
(22,149 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(1,192 posts)vanlassie
(5,832 posts)daughter moved from California to England a few years before Brexit, her use of Gammon has been my absolute favorite!
beaglelover
(3,898 posts)Especially independents. It's why I hope they continue with these types of attacks, especially DEI Hire all the way to November.
Looking at that picture, they all look like they came from central casting for the role of Rocket Scientist. Pathetic!
tulipsandroses
(5,763 posts)Can influence the answers. Keep in mind that these folks are going to vote Trump no matter what. In the 2nd group who were more traditional, she asked them who they blamed for President Biden being in the office like this. WTF??? Like what? Of course that led to them blaming VP Harris being a part of a cover up, therefore cant be trusted. Good grief.
Kaleva
(37,447 posts)Cosmocat
(14,829 posts)They have been brain washed to believe this, why affirm it through the question?
Media does this as standard operating procedure w republicans.
Ocelot II
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onetexan
(13,460 posts)The stupid is strong in half of the American population. It's what we have tp contend with on a daily basis.
oldsoftie
(13,339 posts)But seriously, these people DO have to be heard. It gives an idea of what you need to put out there to counter what's in their minds. Some are beyond help but others may not be
raging moderate
(4,455 posts)Kamala Harris has DEFINITELY worked her way up! First she was an attorney, then she was the district attorney for San Francisco, then she was the California State DA! THEN she got elected to the US Senate, where she repeatedly bested many right-wingers in many debates, THEN she got chosen to be Joe Biden's Vice President!
cyclonefence
(4,660 posts)and used here it's fat-shaming. Only a few of these men and women have florid complexions, but they are all fat.
We're better than this.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)you said
false, as one can tell simply by looking
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and the same for the Brit men
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GusBob
(7,428 posts)Definition of Ham
Type of pork meat
Back of thighs or buttocks
excessively theatrical actor ( my fave)
amateur radio
Urban slang: "Hard As MFer" (acronym that's a new one on me )
Regular slang; to make great effort (another new one)
Ham-fisted: clumsy or bungling
Not a word about fat
cyclonefence
(4,660 posts)When the French took over England via the Norman conquest (1066), the upper crust began to be French instead of Anglo-Saxon, and this was reflected in the language, particularly re: food. An example is pork/ham (gammon, linguistically). The French word "porc" began to refer to the nicer cuts of the hog, and the hocks and butt as gammon, which was the Anglo-Saxon term for pig meat. "Gammon" is not only a term for pig meat, specifically ham, but a kind of derogative from the Middle Ages, sneeringly used by the French to refer to the lesser cuts of pig that Anglo-Saxons ate. The French for ham, jambon, never made it into English because the early French in England were aristocrats who never ate that part of the pig at that time.
I think we all know that when you refer to a bunch of overweight people as "gammon," they are being called "pigs."
julmur
(89 posts)Well thats a bevy of beauty queens, seriously though, as the governor of MN would say, these people are just weird! They are so far down the trump rabbit hole, they no longer reside on the same planet as the rest of us
Duncan Grant
(8,388 posts)Othering is an easy way to dehumanize opponents. Ill criticize their belief system and ideas but not their appearance, age, gender, class, etc.
Choose your own intent but be aware of its impact.
Bettie
(16,720 posts)as a fat woman, it is hard to see the party I am in be so hateful toward people who aren't up to their standards.
Not everyone is thin and that's Okay.
Duncan Grant
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Dem4life1234
(355 posts)senseandsensibility
(19,306 posts)would say about them if he saw the group picture of them above? Living in a bubble and having no self awareness is no way to go through life, sisters.
Ghost of Tom Joad
(1,394 posts)I can' remember exactly how she phrased it but somehow President Biden was not of sound mind. I wish I would remember exactly what she said but I yelled at the screen. One a republican always a republican.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,914 posts)That group has the vibe of a casting call for a new TLC show thats set to air sometime between Dr. Pimple Popper and My 600lb. Life. Has a real freak show sensibility to it. After asking about their opinions on Harris, the next question was going to be about where the aliens probed them. So lets pay attention to what these idiots have to say.
Bettie
(16,720 posts)it's from talking to them that we saw who they are.
So, remember that when you're in a place where there are mixed ideologies. Just because a woman is fat or has gray hair, don't automatically assume they are MAGAts.
Also, for a party that preaches acceptance, the hatred of fat people is....well, I wish it was surprising, but fat people are the last bastion of people who you can mock and demonize with no pushback. Well, I'm pushing back today. I usually just ignore it, but not today.
Just try to remember that fat people do have feelings, and are human! Even if you don't like to admit that.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)the OP,
other than one person who also pushed back against that attempted injection here:
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Bettie
(16,720 posts)people talking about the fat thing that it seemed easier than going to each individual post.
Didn't mean to make you think it was about your OP, it was about the many responses that were about the way the panel looked rather than the content of what they said.
Hope you understand now why I posted it as I did. I stand by what I said, but maybe I should have pasted it in multiple replies to the individual posts that were about this.
I do know that you personally don't engage in this kind of stuff. Sorry.
Celerity
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I didn't think about anything but my annoyance at that time.
GusBob
(7,428 posts)Ham was also one of Noahs sons
Nimble_Idea
(2,271 posts)dadddy dumps rates them all 10s. Wear your best golden sneakers while carrying your sticky bibles to your hot date night!!
ecstatic
(33,861 posts)When the media keeps going to those people for their opinions, they are furthering the narrative that the rest of us are not real Americans. It's really fucked up. Guess what? You can find swing voters in Atlanta and other places besides the Midwest.