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To be serious - Pete Buttigieg is great and all, but is America really ready for a... (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 25 OP
That was fabulous! The man is unflappable! CrispyQ Jul 25 #1
Biden picks the best for his cabinet and I hope Pete goes farther with Kamala. He's a treasure Deuxcents Jul 25 #2
Hahaha alarimer Jul 25 #3
Wonderful!! Thanks for sharing! LAS14 Jul 25 #4
According to many historians, Abe Lincoln was our first closeted president librechik Jul 25 #5
It probably has less to do with mores, and more to do with the availability of good beds. Aristus Jul 25 #9
Cool historical fact! phoenix_rising Jul 25 #11
Obama Was A Nerd Deep State Witch Jul 25 #6
Loved that about him! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #8
Pete's a rockstar! 🔥🔥 phoenix_rising Jul 25 #7
Dying laughing! Pete is amazing! pinkstarburst Jul 25 #10
Great! Was that off the cuff! honest.abe Jul 25 #12
Pete's not only ready to be VP, but could be Captain of a starship as well! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #13
Easily the sharpest knife in the drawer lizardkingjr Jul 25 #14
No question about that! n/t phoenix_rising Jul 25 #15
Oh mon, I REALLY like Pete!! He is such a badass. I can't wait to vote for him in the future. FlyingPiggy Jul 25 #16
Pete's a certifiable badass, for sure! phoenix_rising Jul 25 #17

CrispyQ

(37,512 posts)
1. That was fabulous! The man is unflappable!
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 09:23 AM
Jul 25

Even repub senators were impressed with him, & said so publicly, after meeting with him shortly after he was appointed Secretary.

I say America is ready for more than they think they are.

Bring on the nerds.

alarimer

(16,410 posts)
3. Hahaha
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 10:13 AM
Jul 25

If anything, we need more nerds in Congress. Nerds about science, especially, but all kinds really.

If you don't listen to 99% Invisible (speaking of nerds), you should at least hear his interview on the last episode of the Power Broker series. They interviewed him regarding infrastructure. Remember how he was criticized for saying some of the way our infrastructure was designed was racist, but it turns out that's actually true. If you have ever read the Power Broker, Robert Moses deliberately designed his highways and parks to exclude black people.

Buttigieg was talking about ways they are trying to undo some of that.

librechik

(30,771 posts)
5. According to many historians, Abe Lincoln was our first closeted president
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 10:26 AM
Jul 25

He slept with his best friend, a man, for many years.

It probably doesn't count because 19th century mores are so different from the present day.

Does it?

Anyway, why do we have to even mention this sort of thing? It's just shaming/gaslighting fuel, and none of our business.

I'm so old.

Aristus

(67,488 posts)
9. It probably has less to do with mores, and more to do with the availability of good beds.
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 12:06 PM
Jul 25

People shared beds with same-sex, non-family members all the time back then. One shouldn't read too much into it. Although Lincoln's predecessor, James Buchanan, is believed to have done more than just share a bed with his best friend. It was a popular subject of gossip.

phoenix_rising

(279 posts)
11. Cool historical fact!
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jul 25

I see LGBTQ2SIA+ history as something to celebrate! The opposite of shaming and gaslighting. It’s Pride!

What you said about Lincoln is true. Lincoln also slept with his bodyguard while President, when Mary was away.
More about Lincoln, for those interested:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0027.205/--did-abraham-lincoln-sleep-with-his-bodyguard-another-look-at?rgn=main;view=fulltext

Arguably our most well-documented gay President was James Buchanan

And VP: William Rufus King, 13th vice president of the United States (relationship with Buchanan)

https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/2017/1/18/15-gay-founding-fathers-and-mothers#rebelltitem1

Deep State Witch

(11,004 posts)
6. Obama Was A Nerd
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 11:57 AM
Jul 25

Obama was a nerd. He was a genuine, OG Trekkie. He even flashed Leonard Nimoy a Vulcan salute at a fundraiser in 2007.

phoenix_rising

(279 posts)
7. Pete's a rockstar! 🔥🔥
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jul 25

Sharp as a whip! And obviously an avid Star Trek fan!! 🖖

Fun fact, there was a Trek trivia fundraiser a few years back, and he did impressively well! Stacey Abrams is prob the biggest fan in our party, but Pete sure gave her a run for her money! It's no surprise that we have so many avid Trek fans in our party. Star Trek has a long history of being one of the most progressive shows on television, depicting a future without hate and perfect equality, where sexism, racism, homophobia, and prejudice of any kind simply don't exist.

I LOVE Pete!!

lizardkingjr

(73 posts)
14. Easily the sharpest knife in the drawer
Thu Jul 25, 2024, 12:29 PM
Jul 25

He doesn't deliver a state (no guarantee that anyone will), but he's without peer at communicating and thinking on his feet.

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