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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGot home from work yesterday and my soon to be 20 year old daughter...
Started talking about Kamala.
Our house hasnt talked much politics over the last month. My wife is quite glum about the whole thing.
My daughter was talking about Kamala this and Kamala that. I asked and she said instagram is awash in Kamala. I mentioned that Kamala didnt go to Netanyahus speech, She shouldnt have said my daughter. She mentioned the $81M in money raised and the volunteers. I mentioned AKA and how that many volunteers can make a big difference.
Shes very bright and she is registered to vote.
The level of enthusiasm is noticeable. My wife was still pessimistic. Finally I looked at my wife and said, I know you are disappointed in Joe
.but she has a very real chance at winning this. My daughter agreed.
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MiHale
(10,429 posts)They were little and waiting to open presents on Christmas. Its a real excitement!
Niece says the sitch is that most of her friends got sick of politics because they saw the GOP ruining their futures, and the Dems unable to stop them. And it was old white men vs old white men, so they were not going to vote. Until Kamala. They say its long past time for the old guard to step aside, and the new to come in, and that's Kamala. She speaks their language, their beliefs, their energy. They want their generation in power. And I think it is time for that.
And THEN I learned the Swifties are behind Kamala, too. This kind of reminds me of kicking an anthill... In a very good way.. Here they come en masse, from seemingly out of nowhere..
Bluethroughu
(5,575 posts)Grubby looking, American flag flying off the back of their trucks crowd is all in!
They love Kamala! Prosecutor v criminal for them. They read the Project 2025 overview, and they hate it!
They are excited she is a fighter against trump and the group funding 2025 against our country.
It was exciting to see, the excitement in the young crowd of males for Kamala.
radius777
(3,767 posts)The RW has already implemented invasive ID checks in several states, just to watch free porn sites.
I think raising this issue is a surefire way to appeal to male voters - who may not even care about politics otherwise.
Akakoji
(169 posts)Male voters can't believe it. So we need to keep telling them!
DiverDave
(4,929 posts)Son was "of course I'm voting for Biden, but that he wasn't excited about it.
Now, it's a 180.
So energized.
SimplyHadEnough
(63 posts)I'm real happy for them, because it's really about their future.
lostnfound
(16,410 posts)I was never worried about her ability to do the job, only about election.
Now i think turnout will be high.
azureblue
(2,250 posts)I think that Joe decided to back out earlier than Sunday, It was brilliant of him to announce on Sunday, because it was an off news cycle day, the GOP had all their anti Joe crap locked and loaded, the anti Joe merch being shipped, and he just yanked the rug right out from under them. What's the word, "flabbergasted"? Trump was totally blindsided. And the GOP is on the defensive. All they have now is 4th grade taunts, racism and sexism, they are flailing and making themselves sound even more stupid. Kamala is keeping them on defense and, like all bullies, they don't know how to play defense.
mopinko
(71,350 posts)when tsf didnt get a bump, but the debacle didnt help him either, he knew.
multigraincracker
(33,549 posts)Two of them in my life time.
MiHale
(10,429 posts)Sorry couldnt resist, mgc. Right there with ya bud.
multigraincracker
(33,549 posts)Thanks for the suggestion.
MiHale
(10,429 posts)IbogaProject
(3,291 posts)I know he isn't the magnetic orator, but he could cut deals better than FDR, Eisenhower or LBJ. Don't forget he's been an exceptionally great legislator.
RustyWheels
(142 posts)Are saying the same. I was having a hard time keeping them interested. I'm sure they would have voted for Joe, but they are now all in for Kamala..
I truly believe there is a +5% hidden vote out there, and that if Kamala and the Democrats stay on the offensive will materialize on election day. Dare I say a blue wave is building ?!?!?!
underpants
(185,009 posts)I think this has a big pull as you say.
Age IS a factor and has been. She brings a lot of young people, young women, back in.
The focus on FREEDOM is quite smart. One theme and take that word back from them. BTW the sell everything to their own wrapped in Freedom and Patriot marketing themes.
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Let's not count our waves before they curl. This race is still tied up.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)Bluenami! Getcher boards waxed, guys.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,191 posts)And by November, that wave will look like the one in the original Hawaii Five-0 opening credits.
And it is going to wipe out the Felon Don and his band of criminals.
Book em Danno!
Bucky
(55,334 posts)Kamala did find the time to meet with Bibi, however, and she put him on notice, face to face, and then in public at their joint post-meeting conference, that it was time to end the fighting and killing. She was brilliant.
underpants
(185,009 posts)They did meet with him but she didnt need to go to his speech.
As much as Joe straddled decades of US foreign policy with clearly humanitarian
.genocide lets just say it. THAT is huge with the kids.
Dennis Donovan
(21,148 posts)
You, who are on the road
Must have a code you try to live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a goodbye
Teach your children well
Their father's hell did slowly go by
Feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's the one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
And you, of tender years
Can't know the fears your elders grew by
Help them with your youth
They seek the truth before they can die
Teach your parents well
Their children's hell will slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's the one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
Ooh, and know they love you
And know they love you, yeah
And know they love you
icnorth
(1,026 posts)Teach Your Children only made it to #8 on their all time list, but for me it was always my #1 pick. Perhaps it had to do with being newly married, my responsibility as a husband, or a short time later, as a Dad, resonating with me through our girls formative years. It still carries that same resonance almost 55 years later.
Prairie_Seagull
(3,513 posts)Dennis Donovan
(21,148 posts)CSN&Y gold! (But aren't they all).
radius777
(3,767 posts)The typical person out there, especially amongst the young and apolitical types, did not like this race and wanted something different - and now they've got it. Harris always had alot of upside that is now being unlocked. Dems can't win without enthusiasm from PoC, women and youth - and now we see that energy rushing in. Many respect Biden but just felt like they wanted change - someone younger, different. So those voters feel like Dems did something that political parties never do - listen and take action. That alone will get votes.
AllyCat
(16,738 posts)as are the youthful friends.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,765 posts)Tik Tok, Instagram, Threads, Facebook
.everywhere. Kamala is Brat! is everywhere.
The energy from the youth is over the top.
If Taylor Swift comes out hard, itll only make it more so.
Lets knock those Nazi bastards back into the early 20th century where they belong!
underpants
(185,009 posts)Taylor would blow the roof off if she throws in.
Yes the kids are all over it.
llmart
(16,091 posts)She is a very savvy young woman and I bet you she's already got the timing down to just when she'll be most effective at announcing. Hope Kelce does the same, maybe even at the same time.
ancianita
(37,604 posts)underpants
(185,009 posts)IronLionZion
(46,572 posts)so I'm feeling optimistic. We can win if we work for it and make it happen. The high turnout should help elect Dems downticket too.
leftyladyfrommo
(19,181 posts)excited. They are the movers and shakers.
ananda
(29,811 posts)And we're all with Kamala!
33taw
(2,634 posts)We recognize the importance of participating in this election like no other. Well done everyone!!
underpants
(185,009 posts)Mainly because our lazy/corporate press were following a playbook.
It was going to be close and it still is but Kamala brings votes that werent going to be cast back in.
arlyellowdog
(1,096 posts)My daughter is buying official merchandise, but ETSy is going crazy. I need a cat woman for Kamala sign.
GaYellowDawg
(4,747 posts)For me, the youth movement was Clinton and Gore. I was soooo tired of old white Republicans. It was so exciting - I remember how "Yesterday's Gone" was blasted at rallies and the energy was overwhelming.
This generation deserves their moment, and I can rejoice with and for them, and vote with them.
Tadpole Raisin
(1,289 posts)Thats a power we havent seen since Clinton. You are SO right.
Maybe we CAN retake the House and keep the Senate. Im getting quite excited about the down ballot possibilities.
blue cat
(2,437 posts)He was always going to hand her the torch anyway. He wanted to last as long as possible to absorb the incoming hits, but he planned on handing over the reigns. He worked the transition beautifully, including timing it to stick it to MAGA.
DownriverDem
(6,449 posts)have died since 2016. Millenials and GenZs make up a huge population. Hopefully we can beat the racists and women haters.
Solly Mack
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JustAnotherGen
(32,956 posts)Are pumped up! My two nephews that are old enough to vote: Ditto.
All four had a very real fear that there was going to be some leapfrog over VP Harris. As my niece Dominique said - Antie A - it's OUR turn.
obamanut2012
(27,291 posts)To raise money and register voters for Harris.
underpants
(185,009 posts)Today, the nine BGLOs that comprise the National Pan-Hellenic Council, known as the Divine Nine, have an impact on community service and civic engagement, through outreach programs that include literacy, professional development and voter registration.
brush
(56,164 posts)roiling the waters with voters, and that's not easy to do with younger voters. I agree with your daughter that VP Harris not attending warmonger Netanyahu's address to Congress was a strong, foreign policy statement in itself.
Hope your wife comes around as Joe's stepping down was a difficult, but magnificently selfless but necessary move of patriotism/statesmanship to stop the threat that is deranged trump from regaining the WH.
onecaliberal
(34,932 posts)That said, we have handed the young people a burning planet and a criminal enterprise that a justice department refused to confront. There is genocide and wars that need to end now.
There is this incredible candidate who is bringing amazing coalitions of people together for Freedom. Freedom from backward, vile, and dangerous machinations of MAGA and all that entails.
#KAMALA2024
#Knock #Call #Donate now.
yardwork
(63,234 posts)They were feeling very glum about Biden's chances and frankly turned off by the Democratic Party. Joe stepping down and allowing Kamala to run has energized and excited them like I've never seen.
underpants
(185,009 posts)I listen to talk radio and I see tweets about this grand conspiracy to replace Joe with Michelle at the Convention. Just last night I see that that scheister Vivek was on Hannity saying theres STILL a plan to replace Kamala with Michelle whatever.
For all the talk, Trumps team appear to have been caught completely flat footed. Thats not really surprising knowing how much of an unorganized sloppy slob all of his echo chamber of sycophants his operations are. Several reports have come out from reputable sources that Trump et al were absolutely certain that they were winning by a landslide especially after the worshippy praise fest that was their convention. The Vance pick was based on their belief that this was over and it didnt really matter.
They had absolutely no plan B for something thats been a fixture of their media.
yardwork
(63,234 posts)Chickens coming home to roost. Hubris.
Random Boomer
(4,217 posts)Narratives are exciting, dynamic. Biden's act of sacrifice, the party uniting behind Kamala, Kamala taking on Trump with gusto -- this creates an emotional and uplifting story.
yardwork
(63,234 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,575 posts)Big truck driving, cowboy boot wearing grubby unkept look...loves Kamala and has all his little friends on board, and I even heard him balling out a waffler with facts. His other friends chimed in with yeah! while my son said, "this vote is about character, law and order, and our Democracy. You either have integrity or you don't and I don't want to see you flying any American flag off the back of your truck, if your thinking about a guy who said he wants to be a dictator, did you read the Project 2025 overview I sent you? Get your shit together".
I pulled him aside later and told him I was proud of him for getting these people to vote, first timers, for Democracy. He said, "mom, it's the prosecutor v the criminal."
underpants
(185,009 posts)Congratulations. Arent we lucky?
Bluethroughu
(5,575 posts)It's exciting to see the hard work pay off...
Thank you for being a great teacher.
Buckeyeblue
(5,624 posts)She was going to vote for Joe but was less than enthusiastic about voting a man her grandfather's age.
She's a smart kid. She gets the big picture of politics but doesn't like it.
TBF
(33,207 posts)and she knew all about it. With the protesting of violence in the middle east and their view that the choice was "2 old guys"- I think many were pretty dismal about politics in general. VP Harris' enthusiasm and energy has definitely pulled them back in.
BumRushDaShow
(137,091 posts)Yes - my youngest niece who is 18, registered, and voted here in PA in the primary, has been forwarding Instagrams and TikToks and all kinds of memes that have "flooded their zones". They are NOT on Facebook, which they consider "old people stuff". I have no accounts on any of those apps and can really only read what gets posted that will allow me a view or two (my sister does have those types of accounts to monitor though).
THAT is how they communicate and express themselves (something I try to tell DUers when it comes to questions about "where are the ads????" ).
They are very "visual" and use images and video clips of specific circumstances or experiences, as analogies for what they are thinking about at the moment vs putting that down into text-based paragraphs on a page.
Just have to make sure that they follow through and are determined enough to jump the barriers that the GOP most certainly will put before them.
underpants
(185,009 posts)You are right. A lot of people here arent aware of the world spinning around them. I mean that just as a matter of people being used to a normal way. Much like how MSM ignores the impact that talk radio has.
Face book is old people (like me stuff). I see a lot less political stuff there. I think the people in my feed know who we all are and that we arent going to change anyones mind.
I have a Twitter account but thats it. I have done buddies who are apparently on Instagram. My daughter is on Instagram and in fact does marketing for her part time job. I dont think shes on Tik Tok. I dont think Ive ever heard her mention it.
Quick visual hits. Its an upgrade from memes we old people love.
NBachers
(17,729 posts)and pro-Democrat images on there when I sign in.
Miami Blue
(135 posts)Congratulations on giving birth to such a smart and lovely daughter. Your statement about her way of thinking encourages me to believe in the future of our homeland.
Thank you for instilling in her the convictions and significance of being a good Democrat and an American patriot at such a young age.
Go Kamala 💪🏻
LostinRed
(844 posts)My nephew is 19 and he was starting to worry me about this election. He doesnt like Trump but hes a Biden basher. We went to see the new Deadpool movie and he said he was definitely voting this year for Harris. Its the first time Ive seen him excited about politics.
underpants
(185,009 posts)Im guessing Deadpool was as great as usual.
Lysol2020
(23 posts)Opening up the communication with your family. Many of us are disappointed about how it ended for Joe, but we fight together. We lift each other up and remember that we are literally fighting against evil. We are trying to protect future generations from evil and pain. It won't be easy, but we have to stay together and unite.
BigDemVoter
(4,430 posts)I keep seeing on the news that the "gap between Trump & Kamala is narrowing." It has happened VERY quickly. I think we have bigger momentum than we even realize. I supported Joe 150% but always did like Kamala. I live in San Francisco and was here when she was District Attorney.
The fact that young people are supporting Kamala is not surprising. Repigs have NOTHING to offer today's youth. I cannot think of one single reason a young person would vote for a repig unless they were brainwashed by religion.
I think we will soon see Kamala pull ahead, but I DO know it will still be a close election, and I will not rest easy until Cheeto is defeated.
underpants
(185,009 posts)even after the assassination attempt or the convention.
We are 100 days out and polls really arent to be worried about until after both conventions, I get that. I also get that no poll Ive seen totals up to 92-95 so theres a lot of undecideds still. I do wonder how much pollsters are able to reach kids under 30.
democratsruletheday
(988 posts)and is a Senior at Michigan State. She's stoked and so are her friends. LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
republianmushroom
(16,301 posts)A change is coming.
Javaman
(62,848 posts)I was sad too, but I got over it quickly once I saw that, finally, the Dems had their shit together and rallied behind Kamala.
underpants
(185,009 posts)Elessar Zappa
(15,095 posts)Im active on TikTok and X and I cant overstate the increase in enthusiasm. Its off the charts.
barbtries
(29,317 posts)many of us cycled through all those stages within hours. I hope your wife can see how FUCKING ALIVE this campaign is. President Biden made a huge sacrifice but his judgment through the years has been far better than most, and the decision had to be his. I respect that, and what has occurred since then (over 100,000 people called in for a zoom meeting White Women for Kamala! biggest zoom call ever), the energy and enthusiasm that's been generated...yes she can win, and she will. I believe she will.
My oldest son has historically been primarily apolitical and equally cynical about both parties. not anymore. Usually when we talk i'm the one going on and on about it but today, while we were discussing something completely different, he just burst out, "She is going to KICK HIS FUCKING ASS!"
i haven't felt this way since election night 2008. I was primed in 2016 to feel this way and we all know what happened. It simply cannot happen again.
dai13sy
(436 posts)He, in fact, has helped save our democracy. I am blown away at what he and Harris have accomplished for our country and President Joe needs to be supported in this. No one has ever done this before but he did and he did it exactly right. I'm excited your Daughter has taken the time to educate herself and knows how incredibly important this is. Vice President Harris has my Husband's and my vote. She is a lot like President Joe - both are forces for good