If it’s not one of those I’m moving Canada!!!

I love Kamala but let’s not kid ourselves about those who walk amongst us. Adding Shapiro just feels like it’s a lot to ask.

Pete’s charisma could potentially go a long way. But he doesn’t seem to offer a lot more beyond that.

in Georgia my father in law (80+) was watching something with Pete on the screen. We all know where we all stand in the family- brother in law and wife are Repubs, we are obviously Dem, my wife’s folks are railroad New Deal Dems.

My father in law said, “I like this Pete guy. What do you (asking me) think of him being President?” My brother in law and I immediately looked at each other in a “I don’t think he knows” mutual kind of funny way. I said something like, “Uh I don’t think so not yet” FIL “Too young?” BIL and I look at each other again. I was sending a - how should I say this? - look. BIL is almost starting to giggle. I settled on, “How would we refer to his husband?” FIL “Oh”.

And living in PA, Harris Shapiro would be a hand I'd bet into.

Would be the best pick to get PA in the fold, and while ge isn't as charming and down home as Pete, he comes across as both capable and easy to work with, I think he would play well pretty much anywhere.

Wouldn't hurt w the Jewish vote, obviously.

Put it this way, I know a good number of R elected officials here and they don't hate him.

He has made comments that haven't gone down very well with the younger voters re: Palestine and protesters.

are unhappy with.

and stick around long enough to vote for President Kamala Harris

Hit you in the ass 😉

Sorry, not yet.
The VP has to be from a battleground state

Pete is not a disaster or an own goal, but he doesn't really add much either in battleground states.

And VP's often don't bring their home state with them. I think there are more important considerations. Pete has energy, national name recognition and young voters are crazy about him. We aren't going to win the bigot vote anyway with a black woman at the top of the ticket. We are ALREADY the ticket of diversity, hope, promise and the future. Putting Pete on the ticket strengthens that message and will get OUR voters out there and energized. We aren't going to get the bigots voting for us whether we add a straight white male to the ticket or not, so there's no point in worrying about "sorry, not yet."

but I try to keep in mind that for a lot of people Kamala herself is going to be a hard sell. On two aspects. Like it or not, that’s just how it is. I’d like it to be Pete and I get the thinking behind Shapiro but I just think throwing a third aspect in from either of them isn’t the best idea.

We are all pumped up by Kamala and the kids certainly are. We have to realize there are a lot of people, including Republicans, who are sick of Trump. I know two couples in two different states who are there or seemed to be leaning towards at least not voting for Trump or even voting FOR Biden. We have to not give them a reason to change their minds.

…and locally they made such a huge deal of it when he and Chasten moved there! The excitement was really something!!

my opinion, but Mark Kelly would be good for gun control issues.

And so is Pete.

I'm not familiar with any of the others.

He would crush JD Couchstuffer in any debate.

as a whole isn't ready for an openly gay VP. There are still way too many homophobes among independents, and even in the Democratic party. I would love to see Sec. Buttigieg as VP candidate, but I do not see it happening in 2024. Hopefully in my lifetime it won't matter.

But keep repeating that trope.

Six year old poll:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/politics/poll-of-the-week-gay-president/index.html

A new Quinnipiac University poll finds that 70% of voters (including 86% of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic) say they are open to electing a gay president.

He's great, but we need someone great who also helps at least one battleground state.

But she did help energize women and black voters which helped in states like Georgia.

Pete, but I'm sure he has the credentials for any Cabinet position. He's quick with all responses and he knows his facts.

Kelly or Beshear would be my 2 choices.

White Christian Male
Astronaut - American hero
Bald and kind of rugged looking - appeals to some male voters.
From Swing State - could bring in Arizona
Stayed by and loyal to his wife through her shooting & rehab.
(Good contrast to Trump who cheated on all of his wives).
Somewhat charismatic but not an annoying or overwhelming personality (like JD Vance).
Knows Kamala already.
Wife Gabby is an American hero and sympathetic character.

against election denier Kari Lake, which could mean AZ could have two Dem US senators as Gov. Hobbs would fill Kelly's vacated seat with another Democrat.

The only thing I wonder/ worry about is this:

Mark Kelly may be too good. I can see Republicans message and swings voter buy into this:

“Why ain’t this guy the top of the ticket?”

I almost wonder if it’s better to have someone that has what it takes, but has a little less of a resume than Kamala.

Just thinking out loud

And was a Navy test pilot.

But in what may be a tied race, we don't need the most popular VP among Democrats. We need the most popular VP among youth and independent voters.

It stinks, but this is the country we live in, especially that the EC means that a few swing states - and more specifically a few voters within those states - determine the election.

Kamala is a black woman married to a Jewish guy, with a modern 'brady bunch' style family. This is great, but it's also testing the limits of what many of those swing voters would accept.

Thus, the choice needs to be a straight white Christian family guy.

Anyways. Same with a Jew

who hold homophobic and pro-Christian views. They may have gone the distance in accepting a black and a female but would be queasy about a Jew or gay. I would argue the same is true for many white voters.

with “White Women: Answer the Call” 164,000 White Women showed up.
Before that it was "Win With Black Women"

Every Hispanic woman I know is pissed.

I hope Win with Latino Women is next.

daughter said the same thing about those issues.

I prefer a younger VP. Gay is fine and white is fine.

I'll accept him being a Christian as long as he keeps that in the closet



last sentence? the word closet is

Neither brought anything to the ticket.

Kaine is obviously a better person than Lieberman but the dude could suck the oxygen out of a room.

Might be too much to handle for some voters. She needs a nice safe but dynamic VP. And there are some other good choices.

He is one of the brightest political minds of this generation. He represents passing the torch on to the next generation, which I think is important to younger voters. I think republicans are trying to take rights away from women, minorities and LGBT people and a ticket that represents women, minorities and LGBT people will energize and strengthen OUR party and OUR voters. We are not going to win the bigot vote anyway. Anyone who has a problem with a gay man for VP was never going to vote for a black woman at the top of the ticket, so we need to stop trying to scrape up those few bigot voters and focus on OUR voters, who will mobilize and get out there if they feel inspired like they did for Obama in 2008.

He has been very nasty about Palestinians. That could easily toss Michigan out

that's interesting, I didn't know that. We need Michigan!!!

Pete Buttigieg

Michael Moore said the Arab American vote in Michigan is essentially gone. A young, brilliant, exciting candidate who speaks Arabic like Pete would do a lot to energize those disenfranchised voters in Michigan!

I have an Arab-American friend who told me she will only vote for the ticket if Pete is on it.

Millennials and GenZ are mobilized like never before, and they are the most LGBTQ2SIA+ friendly generations in history! Young people are CRAZY for Pete! Pete would ignite energy and enthusiasm to new heights, mobilize the youth vote in MI, and set the ticket on fire! 🔥

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And I doubt she is alone.

voting for her on these poll thingies till the choice is actually made. I am hoping still she can be persuaded. The idea of 16 straight years of Democratic women as president thrills me to no end.

But, any of the other choices, including Mayor Pete, work for me.

is his lack of electoral experience. He’s only ever won elections in a small city of under a million people. He’s never run a statewide election and his presidential campaign didn’t go that well. All the others have their positives and negatives but at least they have run and won elections in their states.

...what is being called his thin resume.

will make the best choice to win the election.

I just hope that everyone can get on board with whoever VP Harris chooses, and that there aren't very many whiners who fall into the "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" trap the Dem voters seem so prone to.

Pete for VP now and President in 8 years!!!!

I’d like to know who they choose.

…not as much for the other VP candidates. On Reddit, there’s more of a balanced conversation. Shapiro seems to be the most controversial, from what I’m seeing (on Reddit). But there’s a lot of content out there, and that’s just my impression.

Michiganders don't know him that well. He was born in Indiana and spent most of his life there.

saying he can't be the VP choice because he's gay.

Posted before I skimmed the thread. I hope I'm wrong, and there are none.

ETA after reading the thread to the earliest "not yet" comment - 9:16 AM. A whole minute to spare. Darn. I was hoping I was wrong this time.

over on Tiktok right now with young people. It's crazy and amazing! We need to capture that energy and make sure whoever is chosen that they are someone who continues this energy we're seeing right now and carries it forward.

Many are called (vetted), but only 1 is chosen and that 1 will be the person that has the best chance of bringing some electoral votes along with them. And whether you agree with Kamala's choice for a running mate for her, for God's sake, for the country's sake,
get out and VOTE FOR HER!!!

They will determine the election.

The last time a bureaucrat became president was Herbert Hoover. Pete doesn't have any statewide or federal elected experience.