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GaYellowDawg

(4,747 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:22 AM Jul 26

I made a passing comment to a MAGA on the way in to lunch

She was wearing a "Let's Go Brandon" shirt.

I said, not quite under my breath, "Let's Go Brandon? Well, he went. Now y'all are fucked!"

She kept walking. Obviously pissed, but kept on walking. I didn't know whether or not to be disappointed. My wife laughed, told me not to start shit, and we went to a family lunch. That's where I found out that my brother-in-law, who I thought was pretty conservative, told me that this election was different, that Trump was a threat to democracy, and he was voting Harris. His son, a college student, was all fired up about Project 2025 and its dissolution of the DOE - "what replaces federal financial aid?"

I've met a number of people who would normally reflexively vote Republican as slightly right-of-center who were iffy on President Biden who are locked in on VP Harris. Between the activist Supreme Court and the Heritage Foundation, there's a sense that their party has gone way too far and if they have to vote Democratic this time to bring it back to its senses, they will. And they're also voting Democratic down ticket against Trump sycophants.

There's no doubt that we need to keep things high energy and that we need to find all the things about Project 2025 that will galvanize people. I said some time ago that we could hang that around their necks like a millstone, and I still believe it. TFG's crystal-clear desire to be an autocrat is finally sinking in to a lot of people, because the Supreme Court as a check to that is clearly gone. They also know that TFG doesn't really give a shit about anything but his own welfare and finances, but Vance scares a lot of people because he's a true believer.

TFG will have his rallies and all, but I am starting to get the impression that we have a silent majority that normally doesn't care much or pay much attention who feel a real need to vote against TFG and MAGA. I don't think they want to be reminded about voting Democratic, and won't participate in polls. I also think that many will get to a voting booth, and having reflexively voted Republican a lot of times, will waver once they actually have to push the button. We need to keep Project 2025 and authoritarianism foremost in their minds. If we keep that focus, we could be looking at a blue wave that brings us the victories we expect and a lot we don't.

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I made a passing comment to a MAGA on the way in to lunch (Original Post) GaYellowDawg Jul 26 OP
I get the feeling that its mostly the same people over and over at his rallies sboatcar Jul 26 #1
We follow Jambands for the Music and loving atmosphere. maggots follow for the hate. Lochloosa Jul 26 #5
I do the same, its just ya know, we get our dopamine from something positive sboatcar Jul 26 #8
my son and my brother barbtries Jul 26 #33
Instead of yelling: "Do Sugar Magnolia into Ripple!" ... Sky Jewels Jul 26 #6
lmao FirstLight Jul 26 #7
"Tell us about the electric boats again!" sboatcar Jul 26 #9
*holds up lighter* Sky Jewels Jul 26 #13
"Tell me about the sharks, George" orthoclad Jul 26 #34
I always thought it was Sugar into Scarlet BegoniasFire On The Mountain then Ripple. Lochloosa Jul 26 #11
You're probably right. Is China Cat Sunflower in there somewhere? Sky Jewels Jul 26 #12
I'm sad, I never got to see the Dead ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 26 #27
When I lived in Berkeley, thousands of Deadheads would gather in every year and camp out for days and Sky Jewels Jul 26 #30
I like those guys, too ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 26 #35
Yes! I particularly love Echo & the Bunnymen. Sky Jewels Jul 26 #38
One of my 80's favorites too... Pluvious Jul 26 #40
First time I heard them was on MTV in '84 while I was in the dorm. My folks couldn't even get cable until 2000 or so. ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 26 #45
I saw Talking Heads in Berkeley '83 Zambero Jul 27 #52
Here ya go... :) Pluvious Jul 26 #39
--- with an encore of Baby Shark. 3Hotdogs Jul 26 #41
And stiff upper body-only "dancing" to YMCA as the grand finale. Sky Jewels Jul 26 #42
i think a lot of them get paid to b there. mopinko Jul 26 #10
Come on! All those "Black for Trump" are totally dedicated to Dear Leader Sky Jewels Jul 26 #23
Your OP is a story that I believe takes place in every corner of every state. Ninga Jul 26 #2
I put a heart reaction onto a FB picture of Harris and her family last night. NH Ethylene Jul 26 #3
I would have said, "Thanks for cheering him on but he is out of the race." NH Ethylene Jul 26 #4
She brings so much energy spinbaby Jul 26 #14
Project 2025 AltairIV Jul 26 #15
just curious -- where are you that you're going into lunch & someone wearing that shirt is going into lunch too orleans Jul 26 #16
Going into a restaurant GaYellowDawg Jul 26 #19
... orangecrush Jul 26 #17
OMG Farmer-Rick Jul 26 #18
I admire your ability to resist saying something. GaYellowDawg Jul 26 #20
Did Jesus fight Mike Tyson? rubbersole Jul 26 #22
Jesus took money from the poor to give to the wealthy? mucifer Jul 26 #44
Well, now that his ear is nicked, they could cut his nuts off, and release him into the Florida swamps GoneOffShore Jul 26 #46
Remember all those elections when "progressives" didn't vote thucythucy Jul 26 #21
The choice is a Blue Wave The Wizard Jul 26 #24
"what replaces federal financial aid?" Ray Bruns Jul 26 #25
This whole season has been Republicans ratcheting up the hate. LakeArenal Jul 26 #26
That's who we need to bleed off underpants Jul 26 #28
"...a blue wave that brings us the victories we expect and a lot we don't." Wednesdays Jul 26 #29
I think there is a very large group of Texasgal Jul 26 #31
Glad that label is sinking in. calimary Jul 26 #36
My wisecrack at that seriously outdated t-shirt would have been Warpy Jul 26 #32
Love it, Warpy! calimary Jul 26 #37
Yes, this: gristy Jul 26 #43
The sift in focus is good IbogaProject Jul 26 #47
I'm glad to see this. mountain grammy Jul 26 #48
There's something in Project 4525 for EVERYONE usonian Jul 27 #49
Project 2025 is 900 pages. markodochartaigh Jul 27 #50
Ty Hopeful news! electric_blue68 Jul 27 #51
A republican acquaintance told me yesterday, "I loathe Donald Trump, CrispyQ Jul 27 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 27 #54

sboatcar

(512 posts)
1. I get the feeling that its mostly the same people over and over at his rallies
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:24 AM
Jul 26

They follow him like hippies follow jambands.

Lochloosa

(16,287 posts)
5. We follow Jambands for the Music and loving atmosphere. maggots follow for the hate.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:35 AM
Jul 26

Please don't lump us in that pile.

sboatcar

(512 posts)
8. I do the same, its just ya know, we get our dopamine from something positive
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 26

They hate themselves, so hate is the only way they know how to feel 'good'

barbtries

(29,317 posts)
33. my son and my brother
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:29 PM
Jul 26

are both dedicated deadheads since way the hell back when. my son especially sees them or cover bands several times a year. to him it's a culture and the people are "his" people.

Sky Jewels

(8,465 posts)
6. Instead of yelling: "Do Sugar Magnolia into Ripple!" ...
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:36 AM
Jul 26

his fans yell: "Do Windmill Cancer into Hannibal Lecter!"

Lochloosa

(16,287 posts)
11. I always thought it was Sugar into Scarlet BegoniasFire On The Mountain then Ripple.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:45 AM
Jul 26

but I might have been high at the time.

Sky Jewels

(8,465 posts)
12. You're probably right. Is China Cat Sunflower in there somewhere?
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:48 AM
Jul 26

My husband is the Dead fan in the family, so I just have second-hand knowledge. I've never seen them live, even though I lived in Berkeley for many years.

Sky Jewels

(8,465 posts)
30. When I lived in Berkeley, thousands of Deadheads would gather in every year and camp out for days and
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jul 26

I would just roll my eyes at the out-of-touch hippies and go listen to The Talking Heads and The Smiths and The Cure. I've expanded my musical tastes since then and I do like some Dead songs, but I also still love the Talking Heads and The Smiths and The Cure, etc. And I also like a lot of new bands and now I roll my eyes at people who say "There hasn't been any good music made since [insert decade they were a teen-20 something]!"

Sky Jewels

(8,465 posts)
38. Yes! I particularly love Echo & the Bunnymen.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jul 26

They never got their due, because they had a pretty silly band name, but, damn! They have stood the test of time. Especially The Killing Moon and The Cutter: "Couldn't cut the ... MUH MUH MUHHHHHHSTAAAAARRRRRRD!"

I saw EATBM and New Order play (same concert) at the Berkeley Greek Theater in '87. It was one of the highlights of the decade for me.

Pluvious

(4,636 posts)
40. One of my 80's favorites too...
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jul 26

I made it a point to catch one of their live concerts

We were not disappointed

ArkansasDemocrat1

(2,465 posts)
45. First time I heard them was on MTV in '84 while I was in the dorm. My folks couldn't even get cable until 2000 or so.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 07:12 PM
Jul 26

Zambero

(9,344 posts)
52. I saw Talking Heads in Berkeley '83
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 08:41 AM
Jul 27

An outdoor ampitheatre venue. A stunning show, and the audience was ecstatic. It was the tour that produced the epic "Stop Making Sense" concert film.

mopinko

(71,350 posts)
10. i think a lot of them get paid to b there.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:41 AM
Jul 26

u see them streaming out early on. like- stayed long enough to get paid, now they’re out of there.

Sky Jewels

(8,465 posts)
23. Come on! All those "Black for Trump" are totally dedicated to Dear Leader
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 12:04 PM
Jul 26

and totally not just there because of a Craigslist ad that promised them $50 to show up.

NH Ethylene

(30,939 posts)
3. I put a heart reaction onto a FB picture of Harris and her family last night.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:29 AM
Jul 26

And as I did, I was delighted to see my old friend - a lifelong Republican who had voted for Trump - had also 'loved' the picture!

I am filled with so much hope!

NH Ethylene

(30,939 posts)
4. I would have said, "Thanks for cheering him on but he is out of the race."
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:33 AM
Jul 26

I've done that on line and it stupefies them - LOL!

AltairIV

(562 posts)
15. Project 2025
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:11 AM
Jul 26

I completely agree with you about project 2025. It's an albatross tailor made for all topics, political or cultural. The hatred for all things this country stands for makes it, literally, Satan's Bible.

orleans

(34,500 posts)
16. just curious -- where are you that you're going into lunch & someone wearing that shirt is going into lunch too
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:11 AM
Jul 26

probably not a work environment.
college?
restaurant?
senior home?
???

Farmer-Rick

(10,887 posts)
18. OMG
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:19 AM
Jul 26

The MAGAts in my exercise class were talking about how Pedo Trump's ear wound was similar to Jesus's injuries.

I don't want to start shit because I love my classes, so I bit my tongue until it bled.

But the Trump loving contingent of the class was looking kind of deflated. So it would have been just rubbing salt into the wound.

GaYellowDawg

(4,747 posts)
20. I admire your ability to resist saying something.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:23 AM
Jul 26

I probably would have said "Trump's injury was like Jesus's? Who knew Jesus got hung up by the ears?"

GoneOffShore

(17,523 posts)
46. Well, now that his ear is nicked, they could cut his nuts off, and release him into the Florida swamps
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 07:17 PM
Jul 26

He's feral, after all.

thucythucy

(8,554 posts)
21. Remember all those elections when "progressives" didn't vote
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:26 AM
Jul 26

or voted third party in order "to teach Democrats a lesson?"

That was, of course, misguided, self-defeating, and just plain stupid.

But it's about time Republicans who haven't downed the Kool-Aid to teach the GOP a lesson.

A lesson that is so long overdue.

LakeArenal

(29,519 posts)
26. This whole season has been Republicans ratcheting up the hate.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 12:25 PM
Jul 26

Every day I believe they drive one more nail into the Repuke coffin.

They hate so much as a habit that they can’t stop.

underpants

(185,009 posts)
28. That's who we need to bleed off
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:15 PM
Jul 26

or at least hope they just don’t vote for Trump.

If they can flip that quickly maybe Kamala’s VP isn’t that big a deal but I think we need to not give people a reason to go away.

My brother in law are both Republicans mainly based in taxes but they are both done with Trump.

Wednesdays

(19,099 posts)
29. "...a blue wave that brings us the victories we expect and a lot we don't."
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:18 PM
Jul 26

It can come true if we just GOTV! (See my sig line.)
GOTV!

Texasgal

(17,123 posts)
31. I think there is a very large group of
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jul 26

non-vocal folks that will NOT vote for Trump no matter what party they normally support.

BOTH of my elderly parents refuse to vote for a " Convicted felon" as my Mother says.

calimary

(83,367 posts)
36. Glad that label is sinking in.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:41 PM
Jul 26

CONVICTED FELON!!! Take a look! Own it if you must, but there IS another way, one that’s far better, healthier, more sensible, and smarter for ALL of America.

Warpy

(112,690 posts)
32. My wisecrack at that seriously outdated t-shirt would have been
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jul 26

"I see you haven't done your laundry in a long time, dear." I can get away with the "dear" because I'm a little old lady. I'm just not a sweet little old lady.

gristy

(10,679 posts)
43. Yes, this:
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jul 26
We need to keep Project 2025 and authoritarianism foremost in their minds. If we keep that focus, we could be looking at a blue wave that brings us the victories we expect and a lot we don't.

IbogaProject

(3,291 posts)
47. The sift in focus is good
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:26 PM
Jul 26

KH is now focusing on how pathetic, Mr Turd Slinger is really. She is focusing on how skeevy he is, and how you wouldn't want to sit next to him in a bar or restaurant.

usonian

(12,075 posts)
49. There's something in Project 4525 for EVERYONE
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 12:21 AM
Jul 27

to despise.

Never have so many have been potentially disenfranchised by so few.

markodochartaigh

(1,644 posts)
50. Project 2025 is 900 pages.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 12:22 AM
Jul 27

The Democratic party, and the Lincoln Project, should do an ad every week with a different point of Project 2025. Try and connect with things that the Republicans have already done so people understand that this is real. Then put the ads on Tiktok and popular TV shows. If the country is going to goosestep into fascism, let's at least do it with our eyes open

CrispyQ

(37,512 posts)
53. A republican acquaintance told me yesterday, "I loathe Donald Trump,
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 10:04 AM
Jul 27

but Harris is just too far left for me to vote for so I'm going to vote for RFK." I think I hurt her feelings a little when I LOLd. She likes his running mate, Nicole Shanahan & she's a bit of an anti-vaxxer, so I didn't push the political talk & was just grateful she won't vote Trump. Afterwards, I emailed her a link to a Project 2025 article & asked if she'd heard of it. I haven't heard back & probably won't but I bet she reads it.

There was an article yesterday about how the cult are angry that they can't get refunds for all their fuck Joe Biden gear.

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