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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI made a passing comment to a MAGA on the way in to lunch
She was wearing a "Let's Go Brandon" shirt.
I said, not quite under my breath, "Let's Go Brandon? Well, he went. Now y'all are fucked!"
She kept walking. Obviously pissed, but kept on walking. I didn't know whether or not to be disappointed. My wife laughed, told me not to start shit, and we went to a family lunch. That's where I found out that my brother-in-law, who I thought was pretty conservative, told me that this election was different, that Trump was a threat to democracy, and he was voting Harris. His son, a college student, was all fired up about Project 2025 and its dissolution of the DOE - "what replaces federal financial aid?"
I've met a number of people who would normally reflexively vote Republican as slightly right-of-center who were iffy on President Biden who are locked in on VP Harris. Between the activist Supreme Court and the Heritage Foundation, there's a sense that their party has gone way too far and if they have to vote Democratic this time to bring it back to its senses, they will. And they're also voting Democratic down ticket against Trump sycophants.
There's no doubt that we need to keep things high energy and that we need to find all the things about Project 2025 that will galvanize people. I said some time ago that we could hang that around their necks like a millstone, and I still believe it. TFG's crystal-clear desire to be an autocrat is finally sinking in to a lot of people, because the Supreme Court as a check to that is clearly gone. They also know that TFG doesn't really give a shit about anything but his own welfare and finances, but Vance scares a lot of people because he's a true believer.
TFG will have his rallies and all, but I am starting to get the impression that we have a silent majority that normally doesn't care much or pay much attention who feel a real need to vote against TFG and MAGA. I don't think they want to be reminded about voting Democratic, and won't participate in polls. I also think that many will get to a voting booth, and having reflexively voted Republican a lot of times, will waver once they actually have to push the button. We need to keep Project 2025 and authoritarianism foremost in their minds. If we keep that focus, we could be looking at a blue wave that brings us the victories we expect and a lot we don't.
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sboatcar
(512 posts)They follow him like hippies follow jambands.
Lochloosa
(16,287 posts)Please don't lump us in that pile.
sboatcar
(512 posts)They hate themselves, so hate is the only way they know how to feel 'good'
barbtries
(29,317 posts)are both dedicated deadheads since way the hell back when. my son especially sees them or cover bands several times a year. to him it's a culture and the people are "his" people.
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)his fans yell: "Do Windmill Cancer into Hannibal Lecter!"
DUzy!
sboatcar
(512 posts)Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)![](/emoticons/candle.gif)
orthoclad
(4,020 posts)of mice and maga
Lochloosa
(16,287 posts)but I might have been high at the time.
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)My husband is the Dead fan in the family, so I just have second-hand knowledge. I've never seen them live, even though I lived in Berkeley for many years.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)They were never on tour close enough when I had $ to go.
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)I would just roll my eyes at the out-of-touch hippies and go listen to The Talking Heads and The Smiths and The Cure. I've expanded my musical tastes since then and I do like some Dead songs, but I also still love the Talking Heads and The Smiths and The Cure, etc. And I also like a lot of new bands and now I roll my eyes at people who say "There hasn't been any good music made since [insert decade they were a teen-20 something]!"
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)Also gimme some Echo & The Bunnymen, Modern English and Flock of Seagulls 😎
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)They never got their due, because they had a pretty silly band name, but, damn! They have stood the test of time. Especially The Killing Moon and The Cutter: "Couldn't cut the ... MUH MUH MUHHHHHHSTAAAAARRRRRRD!"
I saw EATBM and New Order play (same concert) at the Berkeley Greek Theater in '87. It was one of the highlights of the decade for me.
Pluvious
(4,636 posts)I made it a point to catch one of their live concerts
We were not disappointed
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)Zambero
(9,344 posts)An outdoor ampitheatre venue. A stunning show, and the audience was ecstatic. It was the tour that produced the epic "Stop Making Sense" concert film.
Pluvious
(4,636 posts)3Hotdogs
(13,089 posts)Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)mopinko
(71,350 posts)u see them streaming out early on. like- stayed long enough to get paid, now theyre out of there.
Sky Jewels
(8,465 posts)and totally not just there because of a Craigslist ad that promised them $50 to show up.
Ninga
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NH Ethylene
(30,939 posts)And as I did, I was delighted to see my old friend - a lifelong Republican who had voted for Trump - had also 'loved' the picture!
I am filled with so much hope!
NH Ethylene
(30,939 posts)I've done that on line and it stupefies them - LOL!
spinbaby
(15,169 posts)And if she chooses Buttigieg, I may just go mad with joy!
AltairIV
(562 posts)I completely agree with you about project 2025. It's an albatross tailor made for all topics, political or cultural. The hatred for all things this country stands for makes it, literally, Satan's Bible.
orleans
(34,500 posts)probably not a work environment.
college?
restaurant?
senior home?
???
GaYellowDawg
(4,747 posts)The MAGA was coming out. I'm in a deep red state so it was no surprise.
orangecrush
(20,865 posts)![](/emoticons/spray.gif)
Farmer-Rick
(10,887 posts)The MAGAts in my exercise class were talking about how Pedo Trump's ear wound was similar to Jesus's injuries.
I don't want to start shit because I love my classes, so I bit my tongue until it bled.
But the Trump loving contingent of the class was looking kind of deflated. So it would have been just rubbing salt into the wound.
GaYellowDawg
(4,747 posts)I probably would have said "Trump's injury was like Jesus's? Who knew Jesus got hung up by the ears?"
rubbersole
(7,863 posts)🤕
mucifer
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GoneOffShore
(17,523 posts)He's feral, after all.
thucythucy
(8,554 posts)or voted third party in order "to teach Democrats a lesson?"
That was, of course, misguided, self-defeating, and just plain stupid.
But it's about time Republicans who haven't downed the Kool-Aid to teach the GOP a lesson.
A lesson that is so long overdue.
The Wizard
(12,739 posts)or the Red Tide.
Ray Bruns
(4,376 posts)Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and corporations.
LakeArenal
(29,519 posts)Every day I believe they drive one more nail into the Repuke coffin.
They hate so much as a habit that they cant stop.
underpants
(185,009 posts)or at least hope they just dont vote for Trump.
If they can flip that quickly maybe Kamalas VP isnt that big a deal but I think we need to not give people a reason to go away.
My brother in law are both Republicans mainly based in taxes but they are both done with Trump.
Wednesdays
(19,099 posts)It can come true if we just GOTV! (See my sig line.)
GOTV!
Texasgal
(17,123 posts)non-vocal folks that will NOT vote for Trump no matter what party they normally support.
BOTH of my elderly parents refuse to vote for a " Convicted felon" as my Mother says.
calimary
(83,367 posts)CONVICTED FELON!!! Take a look! Own it if you must, but there IS another way, one thats far better, healthier, more sensible, and smarter for ALL of America.
Warpy
(112,690 posts)"I see you haven't done your laundry in a long time, dear." I can get away with the "dear" because I'm a little old lady. I'm just not a sweet little old lady.
calimary
(83,367 posts)gristy
(10,679 posts)IbogaProject
(3,291 posts)KH is now focusing on how pathetic, Mr Turd Slinger is really. She is focusing on how skeevy he is, and how you wouldn't want to sit next to him in a bar or restaurant.
mountain grammy
(26,987 posts)every maga I know is still in for the felon.
usonian
(12,075 posts)to despise.
Never have so many have been potentially disenfranchised by so few.
markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)The Democratic party, and the Lincoln Project, should do an ad every week with a different point of Project 2025. Try and connect with things that the Republicans have already done so people understand that this is real. Then put the ads on Tiktok and popular TV shows. If the country is going to goosestep into fascism, let's at least do it with our eyes open
electric_blue68
(16,723 posts)CrispyQ
(37,512 posts)but Harris is just too far left for me to vote for so I'm going to vote for RFK." I think I hurt her feelings a little when I LOLd. She likes his running mate, Nicole Shanahan & she's a bit of an anti-vaxxer, so I didn't push the political talk & was just grateful she won't vote Trump. Afterwards, I emailed her a link to a Project 2025 article & asked if she'd heard of it. I haven't heard back & probably won't but I bet she reads it.
There was an article yesterday about how the cult are angry that they can't get refunds for all their fuck Joe Biden gear.
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