Last gasps of a dinosaur. Not worth platforming any more.

Of irrelevance. Lot of that going around.

So people make outragious statements to grab a mention or two.

The Battle of the Bygoners.

He's beginning to morph into her.

Has she been around lately? I haven't seen her in years.

I have tried unsubscribing several times, but they’re back within a week.

Democrats will have to be naieve. But jfc, can we be happy after the nightmare weeks after the debate

To me, that's an indication that he views politics as a game.

to the other? Values and ethics are what, to me, makes the partnerships whole.

Do we disagree on some things? Of course - but I would say that overall we share similar values and ethics.

I will also say, however, that she is definitely not a "MAGA/Trump Republican".

Take care!

Tim

The winning of the game likely matters more than governing, policies and values. Same as learning Karl Rove and Donna Brazille were good friends.

As to Carville, he may be the most overrated operative ever. I seriously think that ANY Democrat would have won in 1992, given how toxic Bush became and the relentless attacks of Perot on Bush for more than a year. He and Begala's "war room" made the race iconic. In fact, Clinton was a charismatic candidate with baggage.

He knows how campaigns work, and how vicious the Republicans are.

All he's doing is letting our side know that it's going to take alot of work to win this.

by suggesting Harris' campaign is just a bunch of happy fluff (women, you know) and they don't know what they'll have to face. Like a black woman in politics doesn't know at least as much as an old white guy about the shit that will be thrown at her. He's become an arrogant old asshole.

"Focus the troops," my fat old pink ass. I've never seen troops more focused in my whole life.

and was very happy when Harris was chosen.

He isn't speaking about Harris herself or her campaign - but about the Dem base and those on social media.

Carville's role usually is that - in 2020 when many Dems on election night felt all was lost - I remember him getting on TV and rallying the troops to hold on and believe.

We know this is going to take work. We know it better than he does.

Carville is irrelevant to today's political scene. He needs to shut up and go away.

I tried that being married to the enemy crap. It doesn't work, for me or for him, unless he isn't what he claims to be. There's no middle ground between R and D, in life, in marriage, in work. There's no reaching across the aisle with those people. There's no amicable sharing of a marriage bed between two opposing beliefs.

People who are only Republican because of conservative financial concerns, that's what moderate Democrats are for.

Enthusiasm is just what is needed right now given how horrible most of felt just a week ago.

would just go away.

His brand became a Democratic Party scold long ago.

He’s always game for throwing water on excitement and enthusiasm.

I suspect that young people have no idea who this bitter guy is. And he comes across as so out of touch.

Being prepared for what’s coming shouldn’t “tamp down enthusiasm”, and if it does, perhaps people should ask why their enthusiasm is so shallow.

This is going to be tough, close campaign. Be prepared for it.

it's Carville claiming the enthusiasm will wane.

Do you agree with Carville?

Ari Melber and the right wing rag "The Hill" are giving Carville a platform. He has been washed up for a long time. maybe he wants a spot on Fox?

Ah, now I see, Carville pushes for Moderate Democrats like he pushed for Lamb in Pa.

My opinion on Lamb vs Fetterman came from my meetings with both. Given the Republican alternative, either was likely to win.

Perhaps your engagements with them were different?

who had no chance?

She might be disappointed by by the policies of the Harris Administration.

https://www.dsausa.org/statements/status-of-dsa-national-endorsement-for-rep-ocasio-cortez/

just that she was not electable and "unlikely to win" in a thoroughly un-researched answer.

She knows what the priorities are, for example - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218086259

…James Carville is an old white guy from Louisiana.
Just sayin’.

His positive Democratic credentials are a thing of the past. He talks so much shit about Democrats now, he might as well be part of the NY Times opinion section. Leave him to the vicious (Bill Maher) or the clueless (Ari Melber). He is of no further use to for-real Democrats.

I guess he thinks that is his role in the party.

..."In January 2020, Carville endorsed Colorado Senator Michael Bennet's ultimately unsuccessful campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination."

..."In February 2020, Carville suggested jettisoning the Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses, letting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi select the Democratic Party's presidential and vice-presidential candidates, and suggested Mitt Romney should "resign from the Senate to save the Democratic Party's ass, and run our convention." Carville further added he might cast a write in vote for Nancy Pelosi when he votes in Louisiana."


..."Carville's Super PAC bankrolled TV ads which sought to portray one of Lamb's primary opponents, Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman as a "self-described democratic socialist." Within a day of airing, PolitiFact and Factcheck.org called the attack ad false,[188] The Philadelphia Inquirer commented that Fetterman had never actually described himself that way,[189] the ABC affiliate in Philadelphia, stopped broadcasting the ad,[190] and Senator Elizabeth Warren called on Lamb to disavow it.[191] Echoing a fanciful attack by Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman Val DiGiorgio, Carville himself re-tweeted news coverage on Fetterman being labeled a "silver spoon socialist."



Mayhaps he would consider retirement? Naah, he is still living and making bank off 1992.

He doesn't seem to have a functioning sense of judgment. Not exactly someone I'd currently trust to advise Democrats what we should and should not be doing.

Any polling right now both positive and negative is still too early to extrapolate. I’d be interested to see where things are in a few weeks once the news of Kamala has been fully absorbed

closed some of the gap from where Biden was - and those polls were taken before she's campaigned or selected a VP or we've had our convention.

Trump has reached his ceiling - there's lots of upside for us as long as we run a good campaign.

I said the Telegraph is a right wing tabloid. There’s a rule about that, I believe.

BURYING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND

What's next unskewing the polls

I'm also not the one accusing another DUer of "burying their head in the sand". No matter how many times you shout it.
But thanks for your concern about my opinions of polls (which, psst, were never given).
OR SHOULD I SHOUT THAT AT YOU?
"I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE POLL RESULTS"
But your concern is noted.

He or she commented on the publication, which is indeed rightwing, and a rag. If you don't agree with that you might want to say why. Otherwise your comment is irrelevant and has no merit.

As for being right-wing ... guilty as charged. Boris Johnson used to refer to it as his "boss". During the debates after the Brexit referendum its front page rabble-roused against judges who ruled the government should follow the law with the headlines "The judges versus the people" and "Don't defy the people, judges told".

And Redfield & Wilton's polling in the UK has always been sub-par, skewing right.

I guess the "polling" missed the boat load of contributions she's received mainly from small $$ donors.

... that we not retreat into a bubble. We need clear eyes to get to the prize.

It's easy to feel over confident after the week we've had, but Carville knows they're coming for us with everything they got. Love him or hate him, we shouldn't just write off everything he says, because he's been there, he's seen it all.

There is a great advantage in being on the offensive rather than worrying about and creating to what the Republicans are doing, or might be doing.

I am reminded of of Grant's remarks to his panicky officers during the battle of the Wilderness.

"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what we are going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do."

Let's think about what we are going to do, instead of what the Republicans might do, and let's retain the momentum and initiative we now have.

Stifle Democratic enthusiasm and create chaos within the party. I don't pay attention to him.

Hes right. The race is going to be a dog fight so get ready

No one here has said this has now become a landslide for Dems. If Dems and the Harris campaign thought that she wouldn't be out on the road since Sunday/Monday.

I think Carville looks lonely......

Melber's show to the end. Later during the show a clip was played of VP Harris' brief presser, with Netanyahu right there, she was firm in her potition that Israel has the right to defend itself but stressed that it is time for the war to end and the suffering in Gaza end with a ceasefire and negotiations towards a two-state solution.

Why Carville was beside himelf with giddinesss as he marveled at her ability and strength to Netanyahu's face. He called it her first foreign policy address.

You probably should add that to your post. And I'm no fan of Carville but I believe in reporting the whole story.

I stopped paying attention to Carville a while back.

Link to tweet

and it is not clear to me that he has ever felt similarly toward a female candidate. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but that is how I remember it.

We need to send into retirement...we need to put Carville out to pasture so he can keep some semblance of his dignity.
Coming out just to piss in the Democrats Wheaties is not helpful and to be clear, no one asked his opinion.

But we can spare a week for giddy elation.

He sometimes gets a little out there but we all do from time to time. He said last fall the Biden wouldn't end up being our candidate. He was right.

When he talks, I listen. Sometimes I laugh but I listen.

All gloom and doom, saying Biden could not win and kept promoting Bennett as the one who should get the nomination. Yes, that Sen. Bennett who called for Biden to drop out.

Not only do we need the joy right now, I’m sick to DEATH of the dour scolding and cruel taunting of the Repukes. Fuck them and their god-bothering, Middle Ages vision for the US. And fuck Carville for trying to push us back there.

never really liked him, for some reason they keep bringing him back on).

Go away carville. Go crave your initials on a tree or something.

I've seen posts declaring WE'VE WON!

NO. WE. HAVE .NOT..

THERE IS LOTS OF WORK TO BE DONE!!!

* a self-serving know-it-all who stops at nothing to cause doubts and worry... to suppress the vote... then to stand back and say "WELL, I TOLD YOU SO!" if the efforts are successful!

Carville knows he’s drifting into irrelevancy and fighting it.

see "Monsters, Inc." As the gen Z'ers learned, you can generate more energy with laughter than you can with fear.

sage

I used to like him pretty well. . . He married Mary Matalin who worked for Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and the war criminal, George W. Bush. . . .She was full of shit in all of her roles. I can only conclude that being full of shit is contagious, and that explains Carville's recent behavior.

We’re going to have to work like we’re behind even while we are trending up

It's not about you James.

They can’t help themselves.

So, I’m not sure what Carville is talking about.