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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThanks to whoever put together the page by page index to the awful Project 2025. I use it
to refer doubters and skeptics to the draconian, fascist and oligarchic wish list that we need to tie to Trump and the Republicans whenever and wherever we can.
Example of how to use it: the current situation with recalled deli meats because of listeria. Trump's Project 2025 would curtail and cut back food safety and inspection so we'd see more illness and deaths from contaminated food. Don't believe me? Read pages 363 thru 417 of this odious and malicious blueprint for a Trumpian America. Then vote Blue all the way thru to prevent it from happening to you. Another example: we had severe storms last night where I live. With Trump's Project 2025 plan to eliminate or privatize the weather service, those alerts would disappear or you'd have to pay for them, if you could afford them. Don't believe me? Read page ..... etc, etc.
I wanted to buy a copy of Project 2025 to double-check the accuracy of the index graphic, but according to the web site it's sold out. That's good because I didn't really want to give any money to the Heritage Foundation and its ilk; it's also bad because ... well, it's sold out. I did find an online searchable version of Project 2025 but I'm not going to link to it here. My original purpose was to verify the source. I read Project 2025 so you don't have to! [martyrdom emoji] So here's that graphic. I hope you can make good use of it.
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mahina
(18,595 posts)Thank you and whoever wrote it.
h2ebits
(738 posts)kimbutgar
(22,368 posts)and I reported for posting misleading information.
I will post this new one today!
h2ebits
(738 posts)I've had a couple of things regarding Project 2025 pulled and/or "added to" by The Dispatch to provide fallacious information. I also reported them--even though I believe that it falls on deaf ears.
Post away. . . . .over and over. . . . .we will get the message out.
kimbutgar
(22,368 posts)the Clinton/lewinsky scandal and called them out. Still been posting away on Project 2025!
lobointexas
(107 posts)The Dispatch said it contained false information. Maybe this one with the page number's will get through. I posted a couple of things on Project 2025 from Snopes that Facebook let stand, but I don't think many "friends" saw it.
eppur_se_muova
(36,880 posts)Charging Triceratops
(253 posts)It's in there.
orthoclad
(4,017 posts)dobleremolque
(816 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,706 posts)dobleremolque
(816 posts)Bring up the post with the graphic, LONG PRESS on the graphic until a menu pops up, then choose "Download."
Sorry, my tech knowledge is now officially exhausted.
c-rational
(2,801 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,706 posts)c-rational
(2,801 posts)easier with time.
Silver Gaia
(4,689 posts)on the image, you should get a popup with several choices, including "share image" and "copy image." I hope that helps.
Silver Gaia
(4,689 posts)you could take a screenshot by side swiping with the side of your palm (google how to do that), then cropping out everything but the graphic you want with the editing tools in Gallery. This is also Android. Dunno about i-Pad.
orthoclad
(4,017 posts)One image doesn't index 900 pp.
I was hoping for a real text index and got a cartoon. A good one.
But then, I was a researcher.
Probly have to buy the book to get an index, which I won't do.
It would be wonderful and useful if some patient person could put together a "Leftist's Index To Project 2025". In searchable text.
alwaysinasnit
(5,158 posts)deportations because, ICE, DRE, and CBP are all part of Homeland Security. Plus the southern states might regret the loss of NOAA as they won't have advance warning of hurricanes.
markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)Accuweather wants NOAA privatized by moving its functions to Accuweather. No doubt we would be paying Accuweather more than NOAA cost.
h2ebits
(738 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)it lists a location close to where I live. Weatherunderground with its Wundermap and individual stations is definitely the most valuable for me since I live in a cold pocket not shown on most hardiness zone maps.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)But during hurricane season or when a frost is imminent I use everything. I've lost a number of young mango trees to unpredicted freezes.
Seinan Sensei
(562 posts)Army
Navy
Air Force
Marines
Coast Guard
Public Health Service
NOAA
All are entitled to VA benefits for fulltime service
Thus Project 2025 wants to privatize one of our uniformed service
So ... who's next?
markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)already a warlord with his own private army. Maybe, for the right price, he could be persuaded to take one of those. But I'm betting other oiligarchs would like to get their hands on a branch of the military. Wanna bet that they would still get taxpayers to pay for it, and that it would cost more than before they took it over.
IL Dem
(833 posts)Available here: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
ETA; Why put any more money in their pockets?
TBF
(33,207 posts)they are determined not to leave it to the states (as Trump often goes on about) - but instead to have a national ban.
markie
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MaineBlueBear
(80 posts)Pages 587 & 592
markodochartaigh
(1,644 posts)Texas that I worked for considered all registered nurses "management" so we didn't get overtime. It makes a huge difference.
ancianita
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summer_in_TX
(3,020 posts)And I really like your great examples on ways to use it.
BTW, if you happen to have highlighted your PDF version of the Project 2025 Mandate for Leadership, for these kinds of plans, I'd sure like to get a copy. I'm planning to start a group to educate and organize around stopping Project 2025 in my purple county in Texas.
And being able to give the skeptics a pdf already highlighted would make it easier for them to find other things I didn't think to mention.
I've started highlighting a copy but it's a big task and slow going.
not fooled
(5,972 posts)Oh, okay then.
They are probably regretting that they can't push a button to make all of the existing copies in public hands burst into flames.
Hekate
(93,384 posts)AllaN01Bear
(22,149 posts)same old song and dance , so they want to eliminate fda and national weather service . wait uintill the get whacked by a unpredicid storm.most other weather outlets get it from noaa and that is where i get mine , straight from the horses mouth
Hekate
(93,384 posts)AllaN01Bear
(22,149 posts)Skittles
(156,722 posts)that would especially hurt the "Babble Belt" hypocrites
liberalla
(9,708 posts)Response to liberalla (Reply #24)
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liberalla
(9,708 posts)I was being facetious.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(2,465 posts)liberalla
(9,708 posts)Thank you!
malaise
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Bayard
(23,439 posts)The puppeteer's wet dreams.
Saving.
Hekate
(93,384 posts)OneGrassRoot
(23,308 posts)Talitha
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Faux pas
(15,062 posts)for posting this.
niyad
(117,641 posts)Blue Owl
(53,513 posts)TommyT139
(333 posts)Courtesy Democracy Forward:
https://democracyforward.org/the-peoples-guide-to-project-2025/
https://democracyforward.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/2024-05_Peoples-Guide-Pro-2025.pdf
The most useful, detailed resource for a topical intro that I've seen so far.
For a documentary about some of the groups behind Project 2025, search for "Bad Faith," released this year, wherever you get your streaming content.
RandomNumbers
(18,048 posts)I know a few people who would agree with most of these goals. Some are related to me, by marriage at least.
Frank D. Lincoln
(267 posts)Maybe the page numbers match up to the actual hardcover book?
If I remember correctly, CNN (I know, not trustworthy) did a fact check and stated that Harris's claim that Project 2025 mentions cutting Social Security is false. I can't link to it at the moment, but I read that within the last few days.
I haven't tried to verify any of the other information yet.
When I have time, I'm going to read through the 922 pages of Project 2025 myself. I think I'll mainly scan through it but still look over every word of it. I'll probably take notes, also.
dobleremolque
(816 posts)page count differs. PDF assigns a page number to the table of contents, the foreword, to blank pages that in traditional publishing do not get a page number, so the "Jump to page nnn" function doesn't work as expected. I'm reviewing the entire graphic reference/pagination and may either redo the graphic myself or pull it entirely if it's wildly inaccurate.
Frank D. Lincoln
(267 posts)The importance of providing accurate information about Project 2025 can't be overstated. Otherwise, Republicans can deflect and make Democrats look like we're just making things up to scare people.
Another thing I wonder is if the Heritage Foundation might be continually making edits to the published version of Project 2025 on their website. I don't have any reason to suspect this, but I wonder about it just the same.
But I am going to start reading the Project 2025 document on the Heritage Foundation's website. I've already read small parts of it before, but now I'm going to start putting in the time to really go over it from start to finish.
dobleremolque
(816 posts)I have reading thru the document is there are rarely any flat-out statements of intent such as "We're going to eliminate Social Security!" Things like that are couched (...dare I use that word these days??) in 17 or 18 pages of dry prose that beats the general topic to an opaque foam, but the boiled down meaning is "we're going to eliminate Social Security." I admire people more bureaucratically sophisticated than I, who can parse that stuff and draw the appropriate conclusion. I'm thinking particularly of Robert Reich. He's got a real knack for boiling it down to the essential take and deducing what the consequences would be.
Project 2025 is such an insidious, clear and present danger to the country. We need to hang it around every Republican neck. I may be on a fool's errand (and it wouldn't be the first time) but I'll give it my best effort for everyone else who doesn't want to see American democracy die on our watch.
Frank D. Lincoln
(267 posts)I think that's intentional so that their intended audience will be able to glean what they're actually saying while Heritage retains plausible deniability from critics.
Harris was right about Project 2025's intention to cut Social Security even though it doesn't come out and state that. That's why CNN's 'fact check' was disingenuous.
Nimble_Idea
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