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Self Esteem

(838 posts) Fri Jul 26, 2024, 05:59 PM Jul 26

I would be very surprised if Trump dumps Vance.

1. It's a sign of weakness. Trump would rather go down with the ship than admit he made a mistake (just look at his handling of COVID).

2. I think it would piss off some conservative voters - maybe even enough to keep them home in November. Vance is weird. He's an extremist and that's exactly why he appeals to the Charlie Kirk wing of the Republican Party.

3. It would probably create even more needless drama than we're seeing already. The optics would not look good. And there's just no way Vance can step aside without it looking like Trump panicked. The damage would be significant. Just look at the whole Eagleton affair for McGovern.

4. Thiel won't allow it. And neither will Putin.

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I would be very surprised if Trump dumps Vance. (Original Post) Self Esteem Jul 26 OP

He will want Vance to be the fall guy... DemocratInPa Jul 26 #1

For November? I could absolutely see him blaming Vance for the pending loss. Self Esteem Jul 26 #2

I agree 100% Gaytano70 Jul 26 #7

I can see him doing it servermsh Jul 26 #3

It's different when it's a VP nominee. Self Esteem Jul 26 #5

It's also a sign of Cha Jul 26 #4

Depends how desperate they are to seize back the narratives getagrip_already Jul 26 #6

To the contrary. I can see Trump doing just that. no_hypocrisy Jul 26 #8

DemocratInPa

(713 posts)

1. He will want Vance to be the fall guy...

Reply to Self Esteem (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:00 PM

Jul 26

Self Esteem

(838 posts)

2. For November? I could absolutely see him blaming Vance for the pending loss.

Reply to DemocratInPa (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:01 PM

Jul 26

Gaytano70

(703 posts)

7. I agree 100%

Reply to DemocratInPa (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:37 PM

Jul 26

Also, #4.
Putie loves JD bc JD hates funding Ukraine's security.

Anything can happen (as we've all witnessed in the past week), but I think tsf will keep his Reek around (Reek being the hilarious and apt name that John Fuglesang gave JD is a post this week).

servermsh

(1,259 posts)

3. I can see him doing it

Reply to Self Esteem (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:03 PM

Jul 26

Trump has turned on so many other people he hired. The MAGA people don't care. Whatever Trump is saying today is what they believe.

Self Esteem

(838 posts)

5. It's different when it's a VP nominee.

Reply to servermsh (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:11 PM

Jul 26

I suspect Trump wanted to dump Pence frequently but knew the logistics did not favor him.

Cha

(302,367 posts)

4. It's also a sign of

Reply to Self Esteem (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:03 PM

Jul 26

Stupid which TSF is submerged in.

getagrip_already

(16,783 posts)

6. Depends how desperate they are to seize back the narratives

Reply to Self Esteem (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 06:11 PM

Jul 26

They are flsiling now, and with our convention coming up all kumbaya like, they might have to do something drastic.

The propal movement may not even be very energetic.

no_hypocrisy

(47,934 posts)

8. To the contrary. I can see Trump doing just that.

Reply to Self Esteem (Original post)

Fri Jul 26, 2024, 08:21 PM

Jul 26

He can be impulsive when he's highly frustrated. He doesn't think things through and doesn't listen to advice.

He just wants the problem to go away.

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