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Pototan

(1,699 posts)
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 06:25 AM Jul 27

Traditionally, a couple of polling bumps are in the works for Harris

During a presidential campaign there are a couple of events that, in most cases, cause a candidate to move up in the polls. The choice and roll out of his or her running mate. Then, the positive reaction to a well-run national convention.

Trump saw no positive "bounce" from either event because they ran a lousy convention and Trump made a horseshit choice for VP.

I expect Harris and the Democrats to do much better in both cases. I'd sure like to see a 3- or 4-point bounce for us.

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Traditionally, a couple of polling bumps are in the works for Harris (Original Post) Pototan Jul 27 OP
And Stephanie Ruhle went there last night... GreenWave Jul 27 #1
The Electoral College causes a plus 2.5% Pototan Jul 27 #2
Interesting we can get 270 without NV. honest.abe Jul 27 #4
But we need Nebraska's 1 vote Pototan Jul 27 #6
Yep got it. We need that NE 1 vote. honest.abe Jul 27 #7
Or not letting Maine's vote go to Trump, as it did in 2016 Pototan Jul 27 #8
It's great Trump got nothing from their convention. honest.abe Jul 27 #3
I think our Brooklyn friend is right GusBob Jul 27 #5
And if they don't, don't panic DFW Jul 27 #9
self-delete Pototan Jul 27 #10

GreenWave

(8,384 posts)
1. And Stephanie Ruhle went there last night...
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 06:33 AM
Jul 27

She actually asked her panel if (yesterday's polls) meant the end of her momentum!! WTH??? I suspect they want a 50.50 race but to use way too early polls as a vehicle to manufacture the results she wants.

Pototan

(1,699 posts)
2. The Electoral College causes a plus 2.5%
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 07:29 AM
Jul 27

Popular Vote result to not be enough for Dems. We need at least 4.5% or better to carry the day.

Where Harris helps us is that I think she reduces the third-party vote, especially Cornell West and Jill Stein. RFK Jr. hurts both sides equally, IMHO. But the danger is that it won't be equal in every state. I'm more afraid of his vote in Michigan than in any other state.

Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire and Nebraska's second district all need to be won. Then, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and North Carolina would make it a comfortable win. But Harris would need to win be plus 6% or 7% for that to happen.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
4. Interesting we can get 270 without NV.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 07:41 AM
Jul 27

I didn’t realize that. I also just checked the numbers on 270towin to confirm.

Pototan

(1,699 posts)
6. But we need Nebraska's 1 vote
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 08:18 AM
Jul 27

or it's 269 to 269.

If you think the Electoral College sucks, wait until you see how a tie is broken in the US House.

Each state gets one vote by majority of House members in each state, independently. By way of example: California gets one vote and Montana gets one vote.

We would most likely lose 26 to 24.

Pototan

(1,699 posts)
8. Or not letting Maine's vote go to Trump, as it did in 2016
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 08:33 AM
Jul 27

Interestingly enough, getting Nebraska's 1 vote is easier than to hold on to Maine's one vote.

We only need one of these if it's 269 to 267. Trump needs both to tie.

What a fucked-up system we have. How about every citizen gets one vote and the most votes wins?

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
3. It's great Trump got nothing from their convention.
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 07:37 AM
Jul 27

He’s also pretty much peaked anyway. His best hope is some sort of Oct surprise or major Kamala scandal.

GusBob

(7,428 posts)
5. I think our Brooklyn friend is right
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 07:53 AM
Jul 27

Polls are rollercoaster and it’s gonna be close

But I like how they are trending since JB stepped aside

Plus the enthusiasm is palpable right now

DFW

(55,822 posts)
9. And if they don't, don't panic
Sat Jul 27, 2024, 08:41 AM
Jul 27

During Obama’s re-election campaign, one of his most skilled campaign nuts and bolts guys told me the polls would narrow around Labor Day, but that Democrats shouldn’t panic, because he and his team were experienced, knew the mechanics of a presidential campaign, and said, literally, “we’ll tear our hair out so you won’t have to.”

Things turned out exactly as he said they would. I had heard of some of the stars of Obama’s team, who were also present, but had never heard of this guy. But he was the one who most accurately told us what was coming. It’s not always the media darlings who can/will tell us the full story. Frank Luntz can go on Fox, and David Axelrod can go on CNN, but it’s guys like David Simas that I trust most to give me the real story, and almost no one has heard of him.

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