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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTraditionally, a couple of polling bumps are in the works for Harris
During a presidential campaign there are a couple of events that, in most cases, cause a candidate to move up in the polls. The choice and roll out of his or her running mate. Then, the positive reaction to a well-run national convention.
Trump saw no positive "bounce" from either event because they ran a lousy convention and Trump made a horseshit choice for VP.
I expect Harris and the Democrats to do much better in both cases. I'd sure like to see a 3- or 4-point bounce for us.
GreenWave
(8,384 posts)She actually asked her panel if (yesterday's polls) meant the end of her momentum!! WTH??? I suspect they want a 50.50 race but to use way too early polls as a vehicle to manufacture the results she wants.
Pototan
(1,699 posts)Popular Vote result to not be enough for Dems. We need at least 4.5% or better to carry the day.
Where Harris helps us is that I think she reduces the third-party vote, especially Cornell West and Jill Stein. RFK Jr. hurts both sides equally, IMHO. But the danger is that it won't be equal in every state. I'm more afraid of his vote in Michigan than in any other state.
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire and Nebraska's second district all need to be won. Then, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and North Carolina would make it a comfortable win. But Harris would need to win be plus 6% or 7% for that to happen.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)I didnt realize that. I also just checked the numbers on 270towin to confirm.
Pototan
(1,699 posts)or it's 269 to 269.
If you think the Electoral College sucks, wait until you see how a tie is broken in the US House.
Each state gets one vote by majority of House members in each state, independently. By way of example: California gets one vote and Montana gets one vote.
We would most likely lose 26 to 24.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Pototan
(1,699 posts)Interestingly enough, getting Nebraska's 1 vote is easier than to hold on to Maine's one vote.
We only need one of these if it's 269 to 267. Trump needs both to tie.
What a fucked-up system we have. How about every citizen gets one vote and the most votes wins?
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)Hes also pretty much peaked anyway. His best hope is some sort of Oct surprise or major Kamala scandal.
GusBob
(7,428 posts)Polls are rollercoaster and its gonna be close
But I like how they are trending since JB stepped aside
Plus the enthusiasm is palpable right now
DFW
(55,822 posts)During Obamas re-election campaign, one of his most skilled campaign nuts and bolts guys told me the polls would narrow around Labor Day, but that Democrats shouldnt panic, because he and his team were experienced, knew the mechanics of a presidential campaign, and said, literally, well tear our hair out so you wont have to.
Things turned out exactly as he said they would. I had heard of some of the stars of Obamas team, who were also present, but had never heard of this guy. But he was the one who most accurately told us what was coming. Its not always the media darlings who can/will tell us the full story. Frank Luntz can go on Fox, and David Axelrod can go on CNN, but its guys like David Simas that I trust most to give me the real story, and almost no one has heard of him.