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BrianTheEVGuy

(574 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 07:49 PM Jul 2024

The great meltdown that GOP strategists warned about for years is here

As Kamala's updraft surges higher -- while Trump's convention bounce and sympathy bounce peaked behind him -- it's looking increasingly like we may be looking at a massive blue wave...

And a catastrophic collapse and wipeout for the GOP, from Trump all the way down ticket.

This is the Great Demolition that a generation of GOP strategists warned about... the warning that Republicans ignored, as strategists called for the GOP to become more welcoming and diverse and instead the far-right base went full MAGA.

If this thing goes as far as it appears it might, MAGA is over and the GOP will be up for grabs.

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The great meltdown that GOP strategists warned about for years is here (Original Post) BrianTheEVGuy Jul 2024 OP
That would be good. yardwork Jul 2024 #1
the MAGAt movement needs to be FLUSHED Skittles Jul 2024 #2
But you have to flush 10 or 12 times! dpibel Jul 2024 #22
Don't forget the bleach! nt Gore1FL Jul 2024 #27
They're only Humanure. Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #29
flushed with pride! alterfurz Jul 2024 #37
Hoping, hoping, hoping. tanyev Jul 2024 #3
Fingers crossed! liberalla Jul 2024 #4
Hopefully you can repost this in October Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #5
Exactly, let's not count our trump chickens just yet chicoescuela Jul 2024 #18
I don't think they're ever going away. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2024 #6
Perfectly stated MaryMagdaline Jul 2024 #7
I have a theory that we could go back to any point in human history & they'd be the same as they are now. They'll always NBachers Jul 2024 #32
right... agingdem Jul 2024 #33
My position, too Cosmocat Jul 2024 #34
I expect a long post-election season of coup attempts struggle4progress Jul 2024 #8
Very true. Voting will be just the start of their defeat. wnylib Jul 2024 #28
Work! Work! Work! Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #9
it's post election I really worry about... bahboo Jul 2024 #10
Racists usually can't help themselves John Shaft Jul 2024 #11
Nice sentiment, but shouldn't we see if we win first? johnnyplankton Jul 2024 #12
By over 7,000,000 last time, and they're still out there. Now the biggest voter demographic, ancianita Jul 2024 #13
Gone With The Whigs! moondust Jul 2024 #14
The RePUKES are a buncha shit birds.... democratsruletheday Jul 2024 #15
Polls I see are pretty much tied. I hope things change. mucifer Jul 2024 #16
What a cesspool. Ugh. FlyingPiggy Jul 2024 #17
After Trump, what is the Republican Party? OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2024 #19
TFG has the Epstein file on the GQP, MAGA wont be "over" just like ones in the past. MAGA will get worse until .... uponit7771 Jul 2024 #20
Kama Geddon for them. usonian Jul 2024 #21
Don't write off the gop: they are evil, cheating liars. C Moon Jul 2024 #23
Meltdown began pre-'16 election Pas-de-Calais Jul 2024 #24
I can hardly wait. alarimer Jul 2024 #25
This time it was a shark who pointed out the emperor had no clothes. Hugin Jul 2024 #26
Did that happen 50 years ago? LeftInTX Jul 2024 #30
We can only hope and pray this is the final destruction of this repuke party kimbutgar Jul 2024 #31
Very possible. kentuck Jul 2024 #35
I think the party is going to have to split. mucholderthandirt Jul 2024 #36

BlueTsunami2018

(4,110 posts)
6. I don't think they're ever going away.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 08:51 PM
Jul 2024

This is where the party was always heading. They’ve been going for this for sixty years and more and they are not about to let the dream die. None of this goes away even if, and it’s still a big if, we beat them back again this November. They still have the courts, they still have the statehouses, they’re always going to challenge for congressional majorities, they’re entrenched everywhere in the government.

They refuse to die and they always come back worse. Nixon was supposed to be the end, what happened? We had one term after that followed by three massive landslide victories by people worse than he. W was supposed to be the end. What happened? Obama won, we had big majorities in both Houses and they came back worse only two years later and killed us. Now this asshole is here, is literally the worst President ever and openly tried to overthrow the motherfucking government and he’s still got a chance to finish the job. He’s right there and the election can go either way.

My point is that these people are never going away and every single subsequent election is going to be the most important election of our lifetime. Because all it’s gonna take is one slip, one snake slipping through the fence and they will finish the job. It was amateur hour last time, next time it won’t be.

If we win this election and get majorities in both houses, we absolutely must pass safeguards to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again. We didn’t do it this time. We have to do it next time because eventually they’re going to win and they’re going install the system they want. They’re never going to reset, they’re never going to regain their sanity.

The Wolf is always at the door.

We have to win.

NBachers

(18,226 posts)
32. I have a theory that we could go back to any point in human history & they'd be the same as they are now. They'll always
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 01:05 AM
Jul 2024

be with us.

More's the pity.

agingdem

(8,541 posts)
33. right...
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 03:22 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2024, 05:47 AM - Edit history (1)

the MAGA cretins are not going away in one election cycle so we need to render them irrelevant by retaking the House with a solid majority, increase our Senate presence, and begin to erase McConnell's toxic legacy...

the magnitude of Joe Biden passing the torch to the next generation cannot be overstated...no more "when they go low we go high"...when they go low we kick them in the nuts..we get them on the ground and step on their necks...from now on "nice" is just another four letter word...

struggle4progress

(120,656 posts)
8. I expect a long post-election season of coup attempts
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 09:19 PM
Jul 2024

The extremists will be trying to start the civil war they want

The Federal-fasc-ist Society judges will be doing there damnedest

Expect noise from the Elon Muskovites, from lockstep legislatures, and from election boards lying sob

wnylib

(25,040 posts)
28. Very true. Voting will be just the start of their defeat.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:14 PM
Jul 2024

We will need to stay strong, united, and determined afterward to defeat all their efforts to overturn the election and take charge. Many of the courts, especially the SC, will side with them.

There will be chaos during their attempt to take over. When the SC rules in their favor, our leaders will be faced with some deep soul searching decisions on whether to abide by such an insurrectionist ruling or go against everything they have always believed about obeying the rule of law. Perhaps they will be clever enough to legally get around such rulings without openly defying the law.

The fact is that the election will not be the end of the struggle to defend ourselves from a dictatorship. It will be the first step. Hang in there, though. We can win in the end.

Johnny2X2X

(21,968 posts)
9. Work! Work! Work!
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 09:24 PM
Jul 2024

But this is feeling like that! This feels like Obama levels of excitement plus the pontoon frustrating of having to deal with this MAGA scum for 8 years.

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
10. it's post election I really worry about...
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 09:36 PM
Jul 2024

they know they can't lose. It's gonna be ugly...real ugly....

ancianita

(39,069 posts)
13. By over 7,000,000 last time, and they're still out there. Now the biggest voter demographic,
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 09:56 PM
Jul 2024

Black voters, are growing in registration numbers, along with Gen Z registrations, and women? Seriously?

We've got this. Like Obama says, come ON.

democratsruletheday

(1,229 posts)
15. The RePUKES are a buncha shit birds....
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:12 PM
Jul 2024

and resemble the wayward turd that flushes at first, but always pops back up. Just wish we could flush them for good

OAITW r.2.0

(28,911 posts)
19. After Trump, what is the Republican Party?
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:21 PM
Jul 2024

Pretty much nowhere, as far as I can tell. A bunch of weirdo's with no vision for the future.

uponit7771

(92,126 posts)
20. TFG has the Epstein file on the GQP, MAGA wont be "over" just like ones in the past. MAGA will get worse until ....
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:23 PM
Jul 2024

... all the leaders get long long long sentences or die.

This is a DOJ thing, Garland is NOT up to task historically speaking ... we're in for ruff seas even if Harris wins

C Moon

(12,628 posts)
23. Don't write off the gop: they are evil, cheating liars.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:45 PM
Jul 2024

I've heard this similar statement about the gop on its' last legs, in past elections.
One in particular, claimed the Democratic party would be in control for 30 years or more.
Obviously, it didn't happen.

Pas-de-Calais

(10,029 posts)
24. Meltdown began pre-'16 election
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:52 PM
Jul 2024

imho
With hacking of both parties servers. Dems said it was Russia, GOP said nothing, but TFG began his escalator descent taking GOP with him.
GOP began defending, supporting, adoring all he had to say
WHAT?
Was on GOP server?
Kompromat material?
So many fell in line it’s spooky

alarimer

(16,683 posts)
25. I can hardly wait.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:58 PM
Jul 2024

It seems so quaint to argue about the minimum wage, or the Affordable Care Act. Normal things. I want those days back. So, so tired of existential crises every time I watch the news.

Hugin

(34,951 posts)
26. This time it was a shark who pointed out the emperor had no clothes.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:04 PM
Jul 2024

I’m not going to hold my breath for the end of MAGA or even a shift in the GOP, though.

There’s always more rocks they seem to crawl out from under.

kimbutgar

(23,796 posts)
31. We can only hope and pray this is the final destruction of this repuke party
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:23 PM
Jul 2024

They do nothing to help the American people and only offer outrage over things they won’t do anything about!

mucholderthandirt

(1,254 posts)
36. I think the party is going to have to split.
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 09:10 AM
Jul 2024

That will shake things up for an election or two, once the mega donors shift to the "sane" Republican side, where's the money for MAGA? With some good Dem leadership, removal of Citizen's United, a reformed Supreme Court, we can set things up to be better for future generations.

And we'll have to always be vigilant. Nor more "we're better than the other guy", unless it's true. No more "vote blue, no matter who". The Dem has to actually be better, not just barely better than the alternative, to work for us and not Wall Street. It's going to be hard. No doubt about it. Backbreaking, heartbreaking, soulbreaking WORK.

I believe this is the pivot point for democracy. If we lose, we're done. Not forever, maybe fifty years, a hundred years. Untold suffering to come and endure. So, the only option is to win, and to keep winning. I think Joe Biden's greatest gift to us was knowing he had to step down, and having the courage to do it. To trust Kamala Harris, to trust us.

We have to make sure he didn't make this sacrifice for nothing. It's on us. The torch has been passed, now we have to fucking light up the world with it.

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