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highplainsdem

(53,766 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:12 AM Aug 2024

Rick Wilson: Please don't entertain the illusion that Trump did the NABJ racial attacks deliberately. He has no control

of his mouth, brain, or behavior.

This is stochastic racism, not 56th dimensional chess.



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Rick Wilson: Please don't entertain the illusion that Trump did the NABJ racial attacks deliberately. He has no control (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2024 OP
The Reverand Al dealt with TSF for 50 years gab13by13 Aug 2024 #1
This line of attack was coming no matter what newdeal2 Aug 2024 #7
Regained the Narrative? displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #11
I agree, all i see are people newdayneeded Aug 2024 #33
Well ... krkaufman Aug 2024 #38
I guess that would make him the world displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #48
NO. MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2024 #56
I dont believe it wasnt deliberate Blues Heron Aug 2024 #2
That's giving the Sick Racist Fuck too much credit. Cha Aug 2024 #50
Agreed - underestimate this piece of twisted human garbage at your own risk dwayneb Aug 2024 #59
but im pretty damned sure he was happy with all the headlines samnsara Aug 2024 #3
I think Rick is right. There is no plan. He says something crazy and chicoescuela Aug 2024 #4
He does this shit at every opportunity. Race is the most important thing on a racist's brain dalton99a Aug 2024 #5
And his brain is barely working. Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #26
Disagree. Just about everything he does is deliberate. TwilightZone Aug 2024 #6
But the orange weirdo is not playing a role when he wnylib Aug 2024 #13
It's in his DNA and he's Not playing with a full deck. Cha Aug 2024 #51
I agree it was planned. MontanaFarmer Aug 2024 #15
What did Fred and Roy teach weird and creepy old Sleepy Don? Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #18
And, look who's ending up the Biggest LOSER now. Cha Aug 2024 #52
I want that thing enraged every day by how Kamala Harris is beating him. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #61
Ketchup coming out of his EARS!! Cha Aug 2024 #62
It's a shout out to his base, and it's his counterattack on women and POC spooky3 Aug 2024 #29
+1 demmiblue Aug 2024 #34
Yep, just checkers krkaufman Aug 2024 #39
Just another dogwhistle to the racist scum that continue to follow him dwayneb Aug 2024 #60
Correct! servermsh Aug 2024 #8
Indeed John Shaft Aug 2024 #9
Agree---I am seeing posts claiming the genius of Donald Trump. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #10
But you don't agree with them, do you? displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #14
Of course not. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #54
He doesn't have to be a genius to spew racist AF rants in a desperate attempt to whip up his shitbag base + get attention Celerity Aug 2024 #23
And giving the Sick Fuck Way too much credit. Cha Aug 2024 #53
He was reacting to perceived hostility just as dead Daddy Trump taught him. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #12
He wanted to re-establish himself in toe 24/7 news cycle. Now, it's already old news with the prisoner swap. lindysalsagal Aug 2024 #16
Disruption krkaufman Aug 2024 #40
I believe it was deliberate. demmiblue Aug 2024 #17
A New York judge showed us that trump knows how to shut the fuck up ecstatic Aug 2024 #19
the crush I want to see: Celerity Aug 2024 #24
Now this makes me smile! niyad Aug 2024 #37
NABJ was not an isolated incident. TSF has a lifetime record of racism which wiggs Aug 2024 #20
Nixon would be proud that his 'southern strategy' still works in some states. Add in a dose wiggs Aug 2024 #21
Yep...hopefully, we aren't 1930s Germany. I guess we will see maxrandb Aug 2024 #22
Well, TCF did the NABJ racial attacks deliberately Wednesdays Aug 2024 #25
All he firgot was the tiki torch. usonian Aug 2024 #27
"This is stochastic racism, not 56th dimensional chess." Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #28
Wesley Clark has an article out today gab13by13 Aug 2024 #30
Why Is It - No Matter What Tr**p Does Or Says - That We..... global1 Aug 2024 #31
Wesley Clark disagrees with your assessment gab13by13 Aug 2024 #32
I Read The Article You Referenced And..... global1 Aug 2024 #36
Not we--some. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #44
He went there to get a talking point out there Demobrat Aug 2024 #35
He came out furious (fact checking/no clapping) Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #41
Wilson is right. Early dementia is making his personality disorder more obvious Warpy Aug 2024 #42
I don't entirely agree. I think Trump mixes up the "strategy" his advisors have tried to get him to follow with Martin68 Aug 2024 #43
Therein Lies The Problem ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #47
Your "former" Party, Rick. czarjak Aug 2024 #45
Agreed! ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #46
Yeah that's what I went with Yesterday Cha Aug 2024 #49
Simplest answer is he went there to do the same old Klarkashton Aug 2024 #55
Donald's buttons can be pushed, which means... Martin Eden Aug 2024 #57
I dunno bigtree Aug 2024 #58

gab13by13

(26,285 posts)
1. The Reverand Al dealt with TSF for 50 years
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:15 AM
Aug 2024

he knows TSF better than Rick Wilson. I believe the Rev when he said that everything TSF said at that sit down he meant to say.

TSF regained the narrative, even Rick Wilson is talking about the sit down

displacedvermoter

(3,436 posts)
11. Regained the Narrative?
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:44 AM
Aug 2024

I don't understand, really.

I mean, the crazy guy on the subway screaming about the voices he hears in his head also has control of the narrative, by way of volume if nothing else, but he's not swaying anyone's opinion. And if you ride the same subway regularly, and hear the guy repeatedly screaming the same nonsense, that doesn't lessen your conviction that he is nuts, and that steps need to be taken to get him help, or at least off the subway.

krkaufman

(13,774 posts)
38. Well ...
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:51 AM
Aug 2024

… the stories talking about Democratic enthusiasm and record fund-raising appear to have disappeared. Trump knows the media and American people have a short attention span, so doesn’t expect, for good reason, that he needs to worry about longer-term blowback from the appearance and comments.

Blues Heron

(6,334 posts)
2. I dont believe it wasnt deliberate
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:17 AM
Aug 2024

Of course he knows what he is doing - he is maximally slippery. Dont be fooled - he is a reality TV professional, he knows exactly what he is doing.

chicoescuela

(1,835 posts)
4. I think Rick is right. There is no plan. He says something crazy and
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:17 AM
Aug 2024

then his campaign creates a plan. He has almost zero control of what leaves his mouth

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
6. Disagree. Just about everything he does is deliberate.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:21 AM
Aug 2024

It's amazing to me that after a decade of this, people like Rick Wilson still don't get it. Trump is an actor playing a role.

It doesn't have to be 56th dimensional chess. It's just another racist shout-out to his base, from a guy who has a history of similar behavior. It's not any more complicated than that.

wnylib

(25,183 posts)
13. But the orange weirdo is not playing a role when he
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:47 AM
Aug 2024

spouts racist garbage. Racism and misogyny are the only two genuine beliefs that he has, besides his belief in himself as the center of the universe.

MontanaFarmer

(751 posts)
15. I agree it was planned.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:51 AM
Aug 2024

It is being covered differently than in 2016. His miscalculation this time is trump fatigue. Those independents who may have been intrigued by a guy who just says anything, has passed, and the press is better about hitting back now. I think yesterday went over great in the Maga base but I don't think he got one vote, and likely lost some in the middle.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
18. What did Fred and Roy teach weird and creepy old Sleepy Don?
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:54 AM
Aug 2024
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/trump-the-bully-how-childhood-military-school-shaped-the-future-president/
From a very young age, Donald Trump was taught there were only two kinds of people in this world: winners — or “killers” — and losers.

[ ... ]

Fred Trump decided to send Donald at age 13 to military school, where the lessons in how to dominate would reach another level.



Trump follows tested 'counterpuncher' playbook in face of indictments
Aug 17, 2023Trump has long said he lives by two hard and fast rules: Never back down, his father, Fred Trump, taught him. And always hit back, 100 times as hard as you got hit, his lawyer and mentor Roy Cohn ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/17/trump-counterpuncher-playbook/

Go back and watch the first 3 minutes of the NABJ video. He considers the first question and questioner to be very hostile and he hits back.

spooky3

(36,891 posts)
29. It's a shout out to his base, and it's his counterattack on women and POC
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:14 AM
Aug 2024

Whom he feels entitled to abuse if they make him uncomfortable by reciting facts about his behavior. His bigoted narcissistic ego is damaged and rather than take responsibility and make changes, he feels they are in the wrong and lashes out.

krkaufman

(13,774 posts)
39. Yep, just checkers
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:55 AM
Aug 2024

Agreed. It’s been his modus operandi from the start, constant chum thrown to the media.

As for this, consider all the free air time GOP politicians are getting to bash Kamala’s policies when asked to defend Trump’s comments.

dwayneb

(933 posts)
60. Just another dogwhistle to the racist scum that continue to follow him
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:44 PM
Aug 2024

He knows this role so well he could play it in his sleep.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
9. Indeed
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:30 AM
Aug 2024

racists are hard-wired for being racists. They cannot help themselves. It's a state of being.

Chump is gonna racist NO MATTER WHAT.

To decent people, Chump's diarrhea of the mouth is repellent and abhorrent.

displacedvermoter

(3,436 posts)
14. But you don't agree with them, do you?
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:49 AM
Aug 2024

And fewer and fewer people seem to be buying into that, and he didn't look like a genius yesterday, far from it!

Celerity

(47,817 posts)
23. He doesn't have to be a genius to spew racist AF rants in a desperate attempt to whip up his shitbag base + get attention
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:11 AM
Aug 2024

lindysalsagal

(22,454 posts)
16. He wanted to re-establish himself in toe 24/7 news cycle. Now, it's already old news with the prisoner swap.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:54 AM
Aug 2024

He's totally imbecilic.

krkaufman

(13,774 posts)
40. Disruption
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:02 AM
Aug 2024

It’s just as much about disrupting the media coverage, and his racist attack was effective in diverting coverage from Democratic enthusiasm, record fund-raising, Kamala’s youth vs his age, etc.

ecstatic

(34,602 posts)
19. A New York judge showed us that trump knows how to shut the fuck up
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:58 AM
Aug 2024

trump is a performer, a carnival barking con man.

In trump's mind, he "crushed it" yesterday.

wiggs

(8,052 posts)
20. NABJ was not an isolated incident. TSF has a lifetime record of racism which
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:00 AM
Aug 2024

media loves to ignore. It is who he is. The first journalist to ask a question gave a partial history of his racism, which is completely appropriate and refreshing. Context! Haven't seen any outlet say that the premise to her question was just scratching the surface

Just as when he lies...media looks at it as though he hasn't lied before...as opposed to noting that it's not the first lie, it's the 48,327th lie and by now we should just assume that he's lying every time he speaks.

wiggs

(8,052 posts)
21. Nixon would be proud that his 'southern strategy' still works in some states. Add in a dose
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:04 AM
Aug 2024

of misogyny, xenophobia, and homophobia and...you have a close race.

maxrandb

(16,210 posts)
22. Yep...hopefully, we aren't 1930s Germany. I guess we will see
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 09:06 AM
Aug 2024
"It makes no difference whatever whether they laugh at us or revile us … whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again …" - Adolph Hitler

global1

(26,039 posts)
31. Why Is It - No Matter What Tr**p Does Or Says - That We.....
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:21 AM
Aug 2024

always say it is/was his strategy (and he is a great campaigner) versus that what he does or says - is just the ramblings of a very weird and dangerous man?

Why are people giving him more credit for yesterdays embarrassment he brought on to himself. Why don't they tell it like it is - he shot himself in his foot.

When Tr**p loses in November - it will be because he was himself - responsible for his own undoing.

Kingofalldems

(39,395 posts)
44. Not we--some.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:15 AM
Aug 2024

I read OPs day after day from one particular poster declaring Trump a genius and today is no exception.

Demobrat

(9,997 posts)
35. He went there to get a talking point out there
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:32 AM
Aug 2024

and he did. If it had not been there it would have been somewhere else, but that venue was perfect.
Kamala switched her race when it was convenient. No matter what he was asked he would have answered with that BS. It was his purpose for being there. JMO.

Sky Jewels

(8,856 posts)
41. He came out furious (fact checking/no clapping)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 2024

and just let out every racist thought that came into his brain. He has the self control of a toddler who had too much sugar at a birthday party.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
42. Wilson is right. Early dementia is making his personality disorder more obvious
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:13 AM
Aug 2024

and every time that man opens his mouth, shit will pour out. He can't help it.. It's who and what he is and always has been. He was just able to control it well enough to do that gig as a "reality star."

No more, the filters are being disabled.

Martin68

(24,906 posts)
43. I don't entirely agree. I think Trump mixes up the "strategy" his advisors have tried to get him to follow with
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:14 AM
Aug 2024

unplanned impulsive outbursts of his naked ID. So it's a weird mix of planned and totally spontaneous crap. Which is weirder by far than either a planned strategy and an uncontrollable flow of emotion and neuroses.

ProfessorGAC

(71,475 posts)
47. Therein Lies The Problem
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

He's not a strategic thinker, but even if others around him are (and I see limited evidence of anything other than tactical thought), he's not able to stick to a plan.
So, even if there is a "strategy" (which again, I question), it doesn't matter.
Like Tyson said "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." In TFG's case, they have a plan until a microphone goes hot.

ProfessorGAC

(71,475 posts)
46. Agreed!
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:27 AM
Aug 2024

We had folks here promoting that notion yesterday.
I pushed back as there has never been evidence that's he's capable of strategic planning, let alone the discipline to stick to a plan.
He just went nuts and this is the result.

Cha

(306,953 posts)
49. Yeah that's what I went with Yesterday
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:01 PM
Aug 2024

when it was put forward that TSF was doing it deliberately.. Some grand strategy. NFW

I said "GMAB"!

TY

Klarkashton

(2,818 posts)
55. Simplest answer is he went there to do the same old
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 02:08 PM
Aug 2024

Shit and he did. Nothing special. Even the rude stuff, he's been doing that for years at press briefings.

bigtree

(90,893 posts)
58. I dunno
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:05 PM
Aug 2024

...it was immediately followed by a barrage of like tweets and other social media posts.

It looked coordinated. Not sure what the point is in deflecting blame or intention away from him.

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