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Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:10 PM Aug 2024

White males make up only 30% of the US population.

Americans currently live under minority rule

1. White men make up only 30% of the US population, however they hold 62% of all elected offices. (Some studies report white males hold up to 71% of elected offices.)

2. Women make up 51% of the US population, but only hold 31% of the elected offices.

3. People of color make up 40% of the US population, but hold only 13% of elected offices.

“I think if we saw these numbers in another country, we would say there is something very wrong with that political system,” said Brenda Choresi Carter. “We would say, ‘how could that possibly be a democratic system with that kind of demographic mismatch?’”


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/555503-new-study-finds-white-male-minority-rule/
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White males make up only 30% of the US population. (Original Post) Irish_Dem Aug 2024 OP
DuRec leftstreet Aug 2024 #1
American Apartheid SomedayKindaLove Aug 2024 #2
Certainly appears to be the case. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #7
I think POC should run for office in every race. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #11
Women must run for office as well. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #17
Agree. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #19
I think it might be that I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2024 #28
Some of it is based on the realty they have had all the power for a very long time. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #29
Words have actual meaning. Let's not water down the terror of an apartheid state DFab420 Aug 2024 #18
American women are terrified when thrown into hospital parking lots to die. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #23
But many, many of us are angry as hell. Nt Biophilic Aug 2024 #33
Yes. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #37
Suggested edit: "1. White men make up only 30%..." RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #3
Merci Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #5
There's still work to do. Power is not given, it has to be taken. brush Aug 2024 #6
We may soon see a real life example of your statement. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #8
I added to my post that Hillary cracked the glass ceiling... brush Aug 2024 #9
I love that visual metaphor. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #14
I identify as a Pinkish Gray male. multigraincracker Aug 2024 #10
I usually vote for the person I think can best do the job bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #13
Why have white males almost always been seen as the best candidate? Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #21
The thing was, your points were once very true. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #56
So you would vote for a Republican Dave says Aug 2024 #22
If Donald Trump was a Democrat then yes, I would vote for the Republican. bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #24
If Elephants had wings, they could fly. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2024 #51
I was answering the question directly above my answer... bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #52
In my multi-verse, elephants do have wings and can fly, OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2024 #54
Also, you don't walk in their flight path bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #55
I thank God you do not identify as Clown Orange male. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #15
According to the 2020 census bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #12
Latest US census figures 2023: 58% of the US population is white. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #16
58 is white non Hispanic. bottomofthehill Aug 2024 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author marmar Aug 2024 #35
The data has been consistent. Not sure what your point is. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #40
Yikes! Joinfortmill Aug 2024 #20
The facts and data are real eye openers aren't they? Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #27
These numbers tell us why Trump and Vance must attack women and POC. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #25
Indeed, the way things are trending Wednesdays Aug 2024 #43
Yes indeed, the numbers tell the story. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #44
Which is why some of them are going with Trump. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #57
I read that younger white men are turning away from the Democratic Party in greater numbers TheRealNorth Aug 2024 #26
The facts tell the story. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #36
Power Concedes Nothing JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #30
Yes you are correct. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #38
"Rich, educated white guys make the best decisions." czarjak Aug 2024 #32
Kamala... myohmy2 Aug 2024 #34
Because "everyone" agreed the US was not ready for two women on the ticket. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #39
White men are elected to 62 - 71% of our elected offices because... BluesRunTheGame Aug 2024 #41
But you seem to ignore systemic sexism. spooky3 Aug 2024 #53
And in eight years it will be a lot less. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #42
40% POC honestly sounds a bit high standingtall Aug 2024 #45
The number is correct. Whites make up about 60% of the US population. . Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #47
in 2020 when counting multi racial people who identified as white the number rises to 71% standingtall Aug 2024 #48
Look at the data, the trend is clear. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #49
By 2060 we are going to change culturally even if the demographics do not standingtall Aug 2024 #50
Simple fix! Abolishinist Aug 2024 #46

jimfields33

(19,280 posts)
11. I think POC should run for office in every race.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:37 PM
Aug 2024

That would definitely improve the percentage as many would win especially in blue and purple states.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,952 posts)
28. I think it might be that
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:37 PM
Aug 2024

A bunch of rich white men are just narcissistic and think they are superior and think deserve to have power over others , especially republicans have that entitled mentality and if someone challenges them they get reactionary or act like victims.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
29. Some of it is based on the realty they have had all the power for a very long time.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:39 PM
Aug 2024

So it is hard to share it.

This is clearly why the GOP is done with democracy.
They are not about to share power with anyone else.

DFab420

(2,951 posts)
18. Words have actual meaning. Let's not water down the terror of an apartheid state
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 06:47 PM
Aug 2024

Just because we have a government that is lacking in representation

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
23. American women are terrified when thrown into hospital parking lots to die.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:15 PM
Aug 2024

When told they must carry their rapist's baby.
Told they will have no access to birth control, no fault divorce and face travel bans.

We are watching a female presidential candidate called every name in the book.
Accused of things that are all lies.

Women are now second class citizens.

I assure you that women are terrified.

RidinWithHarris

(790 posts)
3. Suggested edit: "1. White men make up only 30%..."
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:15 PM
Aug 2024

I know what you meant from your subject line, of course, but good to fix it anyway.

Response to Irish_Dem (Original post)

brush

(58,012 posts)
6. There's still work to do. Power is not given, it has to be taken.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:21 PM
Aug 2024

Hillary cracked the glass ceiling, VP Harris is about to shatter it.

brush

(58,012 posts)
9. I added to my post that Hillary cracked the glass ceiling...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:30 PM
Aug 2024

VP Harris is about to shatter it.

multigraincracker

(34,267 posts)
10. I identify as a Pinkish Gray male.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 05:30 PM
Aug 2024

I mostly vote for Democratic Women regardless of skin pigmentation.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
21. Why have white males almost always been seen as the best candidate?
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:10 PM
Aug 2024

White males are only 30% of the population but hold 72% of elected offices.

Why is this? What does the data tell us? Let's just look at the gender variable.

1. It cannot be that males are better educated than women.

-Women are now graduating from college in greater numbers than men.
-There are five million more women than men who have college degrees in the US.
-Women are earning more PhDs than males.

2. It cannot be that women lack experience.

-College educated women now outnumber males in the US workforce.

3. It cannot be that men are seen as more decent or moral than females.

-93% of all prison inmates are males.
-Almost all rapists and murderers are male.

So we have to wonder why males are seen as the best candidates most of the time.


https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/data-download/women-men-college-degrees-good-news-democrats-rcna100833

https://www.wiareport.com/2023/03/the-gender-gap-in-educational-attainment-in-the-united-states-3/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/09/26/women-now-outnumber-men-in-the-u-s-college-educated-labor-force/

mucholderthandirt

(1,201 posts)
56. The thing was, your points were once very true.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 06:17 AM
Aug 2024

I grew up in the 60s to 70s. Every face I saw, someone in an important position, was a white male for a goodly part of those decades.

1. They were.

2. They did lack experience in many areas.

3. Women would be hysterical in a crises, they can't lead.

Those were different times. Women didn't get the vote at all until a century ago, after black men. Women were restricted from many colleges and universities. They were restricted from many careers. They were basically the property of their father, and then their husband. For a long time women couldn't own property, or travel on their own.

It's easy today, when progress has been made, to forget that these were long, hard battles that sometimes took lives before changes came. Like slavery, women's rights were not easy wins. We're still in the fight for acceptance. It didn't end, it's morphed, in some ways we've gone backwards (Roe, for one).

bottomofthehill

(8,870 posts)
24. If Donald Trump was a Democrat then yes, I would vote for the Republican.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:32 PM
Aug 2024

You should too. We are asking a lot of republicans to do this very thing.

I was a Mrs Clinton voter until President Obama was the nominee. To this day I have a hard time thinking of a more qualified candidate than she was. US Senator, Secretary of State, Attorney, First Lady with 8 years in the Whitehouse. Easily transitioned to President Obama who was not nearly as qualified in my opinion but had the qualifications necessary.

bottomofthehill

(8,870 posts)
52. I was answering the question directly above my answer...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 10:03 PM
Aug 2024

By the way, just because an elephant has wings, it would not mean it could fly. There are many birds, think ostrich, emu and Kiwi. All birds with wings that can not fly.

bottomofthehill

(8,870 posts)
55. Also, you don't walk in their flight path
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 11:50 PM
Aug 2024

If getting shit on by a bird is good luck, getting shit on by an elephant is a trip to the ER.

bottomofthehill

(8,870 posts)
12. According to the 2020 census
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 06:00 PM
Aug 2024

Whites make up 75 percent of the population. That is white hispanic, not white non Hispanic. If you want to wil elections, you have to target the largest population and get the most votes you can out of it. That does not mean pander to it but meet them where they are. There are plenty of democratic leaning white males. Instead of poking them in the eye, let’s try to expand the base.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
16. Latest US census figures 2023: 58% of the US population is white.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 06:28 PM
Aug 2024
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2024/population-estimates-characteristics.html#:~:text=At%20195%20million%20people%2C%20the,and%20Alaska%20Native%2C%200.3%25.

At 195 million people, the non-Hispanic White population had the largest share (58%) of the nation’s total population in 2023.

Perhaps you misunderstand how science works. Data, facts, evidence are not pejorative or subjective.
Data is neutral and points to the truth.

My OP is fact. We live under minority rule. The data tells us that.

If males feel the data is a "poke in the eye" perhaps they need to do some soul searching and look inward, instead of accusing and blaming others?

bottomofthehill

(8,870 posts)
31. 58 is white non Hispanic.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:45 PM
Aug 2024

Many Hispanics consider themselves White this explains the question
White, then the check box
Non Hispanic
Hispanic

Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #31)

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
25. These numbers tell us why Trump and Vance must attack women and POC.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:32 PM
Aug 2024

There is going to be a big power shift and they are running scared.

Wednesdays

(20,315 posts)
43. Indeed, the way things are trending
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:43 PM
Aug 2024

Non-hispanic white males will be the minority in the House of Representatives by 2040, just 16 years from now. (The Senate may take a bit longer, but not by much.)

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
44. Yes indeed, the numbers tell the story.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:45 PM
Aug 2024

White males will lose power whether they like it or not.

mucholderthandirt

(1,201 posts)
57. Which is why some of them are going with Trump.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 06:27 AM
Aug 2024

He's promised the white Christian minority eternal dominance. We must defeat him now, this election, or we may never have another chance. They like to spout "civil war", but that's what it would take to get this kind of fascist monster out of our government.

It will be an eternal fight, probably. Never rest, never assume people who think like that are gone. They should never have gotten this far, but people ignored their working from dog catcher and up. See how that worked? We took our eye off the ball. Who cares about the local school board? Who cares about the city council, the country commission? Those people can't do much.

The thing is, those people got experience. They collected backers. And then they were in the state houses and senates, the governorships, the courts and then into the Federal congress, and eventually into the White House.

This must be stopped. Never again someone like Trump, even the sneaky ones, like Reagan. And we can't assume Democrats are safe, because we've seen turncoats, those who aren't what they seem. We even have a name for them: DINO, Democrat in name only. That's not a cute meme, it should serve as another warning.

Eternal vigilance, eternal war for democracy. It's been said, democracy is the worse form of government, except for all the others. We have our choice, let's fight for it.

TheRealNorth

(9,629 posts)
26. I read that younger white men are turning away from the Democratic Party in greater numbers
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:35 PM
Aug 2024

And Black and Latino men are too. But yeah, let's play identity politics cause that worked so well in 2016.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
36. The facts tell the story.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:00 PM
Aug 2024

I am not playing identity politics.

I am reporting the truth, facts and evidence.

The facts are clear, white males have insisted on minority rule.

But they will be losing power due to the demographics and there is nothing they can do about it.

This is why the GOP is done with democracy.
They cannot stay in power based on voters.

This is why they must demonize women, POC, LGBT.

They are afraid of losing power.

White males can join the GOP all they want.
It will not change the reality heading their way in the next two decades.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
38. Yes you are correct.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:03 PM
Aug 2024

It will be a bitter battle over installing a true representative democracy.

czarjak

(12,523 posts)
32. "Rich, educated white guys make the best decisions."
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 07:48 PM
Aug 2024

Bottom line for conservatives. Rushbo's Rule #1.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,787 posts)
41. White men are elected to 62 - 71% of our elected offices because...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:16 PM
Aug 2024

… people are voting for them. It’s not a conspiracy. Where compelling women and minorities run for office, they are doing pretty well. It’s somewhat difficult to unseat a decent incumbent so the process takes a while. We are waiting for people to retire or die. It gets better every election cycle.

spooky3

(36,394 posts)
53. But you seem to ignore systemic sexism.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 10:06 PM
Aug 2024

There is a ton of research on this. If people in a society see women as a group as “less than” men, it’s going to be harder for equally qualified (or better) female candidates to win. H. Clinton was just one of many examples of this. And we have evidence of many factors that have led people in the US to continue to hold biases, many of which are unconscious.

There is also evidence that women candidates in general have more difficulty than do men in raising campaign money.

standingtall

(2,994 posts)
45. 40% POC honestly sounds a bit high
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 08:52 PM
Aug 2024

and there are just as many and probably more white women and they tend to vote for white men. Although there is workto do like winning this election, but no those numbers wouldn't be unusual in many countries unless we are going to pretend white men have no mothers.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
47. The number is correct. Whites make up about 60% of the US population. .
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 09:05 PM
Aug 2024

In 2010 the US white population was 71%.
2020 about 60%.

2060 is projected US white population at 45%.

This is why the GOP is hysterical and forcing white women to give birth.
Ending abortion and birth control.

standingtall

(2,994 posts)
48. in 2020 when counting multi racial people who identified as white the number rises to 71%
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 09:23 PM
Aug 2024

and I doubt it's dropped by 11% in 3 or 4 years. Even if those projections hold at 45% by 2060 that will likely still be the largest plurality and by 2060 there is a good chance many of us won't still be alive anyway and very few people currently in Government will still be around by then.

Irish_Dem

(59,464 posts)
49. Look at the data, the trend is clear.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 09:31 PM
Aug 2024

Trends and population projections are not based on whether you or I will be alive next year.

Science is about making specific and general predictions for the good of those who come after us.

It is not always about us and our personal interests.

The data is showing a profound change in American culture and politics.
It is not about us.

standingtall

(2,994 posts)
50. By 2060 we are going to change culturally even if the demographics do not
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 09:40 PM
Aug 2024

Scenic predictions 36 years away are not reliable. There are too many unknown and unforeseen circumstances that can and will happen.

Abolishinist

(2,058 posts)
46. Simple fix!
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 09:01 PM
Aug 2024

All Democrats in Congress who happen to be white males should refuse to run for office in 2026, stating that our outdated system of American Apartheid MUST come to an end!

I realize we can't get the R's to do this, but no matter, the numbers will be there in the end!

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