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jimfields33

(19,276 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:57 AM Aug 2024

Excess memes and 'reply all' emails are bad for climate, researcher warns

I saw this is a group and thought it was urgent that all DU members see this.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/article/2024/aug/09/excess-memes-photos-and-reply-all-emails-are-bad-for-climate-finds-study

Most data stored on power-hungry servers is used once then never looked at again

When “I can has cheezburger?” became one of the first internet memes to blow our minds, it’s unlikely that anyone worried about how much energy it would use up.

But research has now found that the vast majority of data stored in the cloud is “dark data”, meaning it is used once then never visited again. That means that all the memes and jokes and films that we love to share with friends and family – from “All your base are belong to us”, through Ryan Gosling saying “Hey Girl”, to Tim Walz with a piglet – are out there somewhere, sitting in a datacentre, using up energy. By 2030, the National Grid anticipates that datacentres will account for just under 6% of the UK’s total electricity consumption, so tackling junk data is an important part of tackling the climate crisis.

Ian Hodgkinson, a professor of strategy at Loughborough University has been studying the climate impact of dark data and how it can be reduced.

“I really started a couple of years ago, it was about trying to understand the negative environmental impact that digital data might have,” he said. “And at the top of it might be quite an easy question to answer, but it turns out actually, it’s a whole lot more complex. But absolutely, data does have a negative environmental impact.”

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Excess memes and 'reply all' emails are bad for climate, researcher warns (Original Post) jimfields33 Aug 2024 OP
So just erase them and turn them off. NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2024 #1
Whatever Renew Deal Aug 2024 #2
It's a silly message from a silly researcher. If data centers BootinUp Aug 2024 #3
Not the reality though.... getagrip_already Aug 2024 #4

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,627 posts)
1. So just erase them and turn them off.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:02 AM
Aug 2024

Who needs all this old data anyway?

Memes and emails are bad for your mental health as well.

BootinUp

(49,169 posts)
3. It's a silly message from a silly researcher. If data centers
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:05 AM
Aug 2024

Are costing us in terms of environmental damage then they must be regulated. Costs to use them will be applied.

Telling people not to meme is the stupidest thing I will (probably) see today.

getagrip_already

(17,526 posts)
4. Not the reality though....
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:34 AM
Aug 2024

In modern cloud data centers like at aws, goigle, and azure, data is not static.

It is temporal. It gets migrated based on its rate of access to slower/cheaper/less power hungry media.

Some data in fact gets moved to media that is idled, offline, until something is needed. It consumes virtually no energy in that state compared to high speed media.

Csp's dont want to waste energy because it is a major expense. Storage systems produce a lot of heat, which then needs crac units to cool. Why keep disks spinning if the data is idle?

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