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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVance: grandmothers helping raise children is "the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female."
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He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a "weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman."
ismnotwasm
(42,663 posts)Fucking bigoted idiot
democratsruletheday
(1,812 posts)I mean.....that's a crass and harsh term but that's what he is. Same as DonOLD.
ismnotwasm
(42,663 posts)No redeeming qualities whatsoever
sinkingfeeling
(57,200 posts)AmBlue
(3,458 posts)And cannot WAIT to see it happen!!
Oh and FUJD. Seriously.
niyad
(129,517 posts)Ocelot II
(129,021 posts)didn't produce any, once you hit menopause are you supposed to be set out on an ice floe to die? Or do you just head for an animal shelter to get a few cats so you can live out your life as a sad, bitter cat lady?
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Because uterine cancer ended any chance my DIL had for having children, hence grandchildren for me.
I guess that makes both the DIL and I useless eaters.
Dulcinea
(9,656 posts)My daughters are in college, so grandkids are on a distant horizon, if ever. One daughter wants kids "one day" & the other is ambivalent at best.
Like a lot of sad, insecure men with mommy & daddy issues, JV Dance cannot bear that women have choices, and that they make choices he doesn't approve of. No one died & left you king, Vladimir Futon. Get over yourself. And fuck off. Mind your own damn business, to quote future Vice President Walz.
obamanut2012
(29,166 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)This dude is garbage all the way down and worth defeating the horrible ticket just for this piece of crap from being a heartbeat away.
apcalc
(4,524 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,223 posts)SharonClark
(10,497 posts)Hugin
(37,420 posts)highplainsdem
(59,977 posts)Walleye
(43,807 posts)apcalc
(4,524 posts)Skittles
(169,516 posts)Vance is here to tell what makes us ladies worthy!
Hope22
(4,467 posts)This is one sick human .and I use the term lightly.
teaching kids Checkers, how to keep score in Baseball, and giving them Sprite. Also smoking cigars indoors around them.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)My experience of a grandfather was rather different. It seemed to be about bringing home candy bars for us kids but then eating dinner without ever looking up from his plate because kids were being heard as well as seen from the sugar high...
Whittling a wood figurine for the kid willing to sit next to him while he listened to baseball on the radio (almost always me)...
Muttering hilarious insults to himself about the idiots around him...
Driving 25 miles an hour everywhere but having no regard for center stripes, stop signs and traffic lights (OMFG we are going to DIE)...
Pointing at people's houses while driving down the road and saying, "That sumbitch owes me money..." or "Remember when that widder woman got drunk at the 4th of July parade and took off all her clothes?" Did I mention we children, none of us older than 9, were in the backseat hearing these things, much to my grandmother's mortification?
Chain-smoking unfiltered Lucky Strikes....
Having a nip of bourbon every evening after (he thought) the kids were safely in bed...
Hanging at builder supply stores yakking with the other old coots and letting his granddaughter dig in all the barrels of nuts, bolts, pipe elbows, washers...
Taking his granddaughter, not her brothers, fishing with him because she was the only one with the sense to know when to shut up, and never tattled on him for the beers he drank...
And spending hours 'figgering' his accounts on notepads cadged from the local bank. They put them out as lagniappe, and he never failed to take a few when he popped in to make a deposit. Had drawers of them back home, but he'd always take more. Ooh--today they have pens!
So, uh, yeah, my grandfather was something of a character.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Is getting the chance to live for herself at long last, rather than anyone else. She put in her time as a parent. She can choose to be involved or not with her grandchildren, to whatever extent she prefers.
She earned that right from her years of self-sacrifice.
BeyondGeography
(40,808 posts)Hugin
(37,420 posts)spanone
(141,003 posts)tanyev
(48,658 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)maxsolomon
(38,173 posts)there's nothing "weird" about Indian Grandparents helping with childcare. Or Hillbilly Grandparents, FFS.
My Irish/German Catholic Grandparents did that - babysitting when my parents needed to get away from us.
Nevilledog
(54,711 posts)hunter
(40,367 posts)If my parents hadn't passed on the feral human skills they'd acquired as children some of us grandchildren might not have survived.
My grandparents were not bad people but they were not entirely grounded in this universe. They were living in a Hollywood fantasy.
Diamond_Dog
(39,759 posts)I was also taking care of *my* mom bc she had myriad health issues. Guess JD never thought of that scenario.
And who are these pricks anyway to identify a woman solely by her reproductive capacity. Like were not even fully human. Just vessels. GAH!
hamsterjill
(16,967 posts)This post-menopausal woman has NO grandchildren and is just fine with that. I have a helluva lot more purpose than being a freaking babysitter.
A_Woman_from_MI
(183 posts)Fuck this guy.
Raven123
(7,529 posts)
is the privilege that his MIL had to be able to take A ONE YEAR SABBATICAL to be able to help the Vance family. And the privilege he had to have a third caregiver around for that year.
Torchlight
(6,307 posts)'And I, which was two fools, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fools be.' (Donne)
hlthe2b
(112,794 posts)the social "totem pole." Apparently, this has always been Vance and in his warped little mind, he has decided all women are "just asking" for him to target them with his ugly self-deflecting insecurities and misogyny.
Well, WE are going to show him what is what... And his narcissistic bullying buddy as well. The two of them deserve time in an open public stockade with the public allowed to throw whatever rotten fruit or other debris at them. And THEN formally face our wrath!
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)We can of course wear gloves.
struggle4progress
(125,348 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,037 posts)Rebl2
(17,398 posts)never helped take care of us because they all lived elsewhere.
mjvpi
(1,844 posts).and remove all of the sharp objects be fore my wife hears that. Actually, fuck it, Ill throw them first. This guy is a USSenator. WTF
niyad
(129,517 posts)LuckyCharms
(21,755 posts)Coventina
(29,101 posts)dalton99a
(92,076 posts)GPV
(73,370 posts)617Blue
(2,189 posts)Freethinker65
(11,202 posts)Not qualified to be a US Senator. Certainly not qualified to be second in line to the U.S. Presidency.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)DAMN!
Coexist
(26,202 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,662 posts)It sure as hell is starting to feel like it.
Maybe he's trying to make Trump look better by his shameless assholery.
GoCubsGo
(34,662 posts)It's as if he's deliberately driving people, especially women, AWAY from the ticket. I starting to think that he wants Trump to lose. He has said in the past that he hates Trump, and what better way to show one's hatred toward someone than by causing him to lose an election he's only running in to keep his crooked ass out of prison?
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)oh wait...
maptap22
(247 posts)pitch in and help but it is certainly not my purpose. What an asshole this guy is!
karynnj
(60,777 posts)help from grandparents is something unusual that he got marrying an Indian woman?
bucolic_frolic
(54,013 posts)Get a life, JD. Crawl back in your medieval hole.
RussBLib
(10,423 posts)...what a regressive neanderthal asshole.
So I guess if your daughter has no kids, you have no purpose in life any longer?
https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1
Tree Lady
(13,005 posts)and its not like our kids could afford to live there and help mom stay in CA.
Also, I had menopause early so I was still working for another 20 years after.
This guy is digusting!!
Jrose
(1,515 posts)carrying the burden of men's assaults or mistakes...
are quite a threat, aren't they?
valleyrogue
(2,568 posts)They are just relationships to others, not human beings at all.
ellie
(6,974 posts)delisen
(7,213 posts)J.Ds purpose is to be served. He cannot exist on his own as an adult He is the king and everyone else is a member of the court.
His secret though is that he wants to be a woman.
I see him as a candidate for suicide He wants to be on a stage and have people throw things at him, insults will suffice. He needs an intervention.
I feel sorry for him. He is emotionally drowning.HIS attacks on women are classic cries for help.
thucythucy
(9,043 posts)as a biology professor to bring up his kid.
It evidently never occurs to him that he could have done that himself. Instead, he just assumes it's a "woman's duty" to sacrifice HER career so he can get on with his--whatever that might have been at the time.
I would argue that teaching biology is far more important than being a vulture--I mean venture--capitalist.
delisen
(7,213 posts)Solly Mack
(96,317 posts)arlyellowdog
(1,430 posts)Solly Mack
(96,317 posts)niyad
(129,517 posts)niyad
(129,517 posts)Diamond_Dog
(39,759 posts)Women are not full human beings. We are merely vessels identified by our capacity to birth.
I am so boiling angry at this I cant find the words
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Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)ZZenith
(4,451 posts)People are ends in and of themselves, Mr. Vance, they are not merely means to your ends.
Xavier Breath
(6,471 posts)but damn, we in Ohio sure could have used to hear all of this two effing years ago. I don't know, maybe it still wouldn't have made that much of an impression on our electorate.
niyad
(129,517 posts)valleyrogue
(2,568 posts)Upon Googling the two words, "raise" has been the more popular term since the 1960s.
niyad
(129,517 posts)BadgerMom
(3,378 posts)PatrickforB
(15,339 posts)What a fucked-up individual.
Blue Owl
(58,160 posts)Skittles
(169,516 posts)mansplaining the worthiness of women, at its finest
Demobrat
(10,262 posts)WTF happened there? Did her parents sell her to him?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Holding down a full time job or two not-quite-full-time jobs is tough enough. Doing it with children is harder. Grandmothers can be a tremendous help with flexible load-sharing if present, willing, and able.
Earthrise
(15,738 posts)Child Care Aware reports that 1 in 5 U.S. grandparentsincluding those in Ohioprovide child care regularly. As long as the cost of good quality daycare is high, many U.S. grandparents will spend years of their retirement raising their children's children in Ohio, Kentucky, and every other blessed state in the union.
Only a racist mind would assume that this common experience can only be explained through a racist lens.
Usha must be hearing this stupidity, right? My wife isn't white, but I love her. A weird feature of marrying an Indiana woman is grandparents who help raise children.
IbogaProject
(5,613 posts)But of course these pampered rich toadies don't think of those under them in their distopian social and economic systems.
Dave Bowman
(6,627 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)How many career pros could ever afford to take a year off from work to do this? And, how many would want to spend their year off to take care of a child?
If his argument is that women wouldn't have to work so that they'll be available for this duty, is he advocating policies that would pay men the equivalent of two salaries to make up for the lost family income?
TBF
(35,624 posts)and comes up with something more ridiculous.
Xipe Totec
(44,469 posts)No, that's not a typo.
(Post STD)
IzzaNuDay
(1,234 posts)rockbluff botanist
(360 posts)Someone should really ask him since he has become an anthropologist. What a dick (haha).
Tarzanrock
(1,250 posts)Just when you "thought" that this perverted couch fucking, stinking piece of shit wasn't "weird" enough -- just let him talk about women and childless cat ladies. So, Vance thinks grandmothers raising children is "whole purpose of the postmenopausal female." What's next? Do we now value women by the pound? Free "caregiver" services to be provided by women in the Republican vision of women serving as "slaves to men" providing "free" labor services? What kind of "twisted" world do these fucking misogynist women haters live in? Racist, misogynist Pigs! No small wonder assholes like this Asshole want control over women's reproductive freedoms. Get out and vote, Ladies, because this election is about you and your Freedom! These evil rat bastards are going to take your Freedom away from you.
Warpy
(114,381 posts)Among orcas, the postmenopausal female is the leader of the group, making sure they get to the best hunting grounds and using the best strategies for thei prey. She's not a baby sitter because she's the one who doesn't have to worry about sex and reproduction, at all.
Our closest relatives, chimps and bonobos, don't have menopause but their periods of estrus grow father and farther apart as they age. The're nt just baby sitters, either. They would seem to be the educators, guides and occasional diplomats.
I hate to break it to over grown snot noses like JD, but no woman has owed him a damned thing once he got off the tit: not his mother, not his grandmother, and not any other woman on the planet. We don't exist for his comfort or convenience
The Victorians called, JD, they want their entitled moron back.
csusan
(63 posts)My brother is retired and has 3 grandchildren. My SIL still works. My brother does it all for his grandchildren to help his daughter and son-in-law who both work. He chauffeurs, feeds the kids, meets with teacher at end of the day, takes them to ball practice and much more. He loves doing it and does as good as any post-menopausal woman. So leave us postmenopausal women alone. Let the men carry the load for awhile. If my brother didn't have grandchildren, he would spend his afternoons and early evening watching TV. It's much more healthy mentally and physically spending time taking care of the young ones. Also he is giving them memories they will never forget. Kudos to my brother for stepping up. Alot of men would have said no.
Sparkly
(24,823 posts)mcar
(45,661 posts)fck you Vance, you weirdo!
Botany
(76,378 posts)Not only is he full of crap, with out a scintilla of humanity, a man explaining idiot, but
he is costing Trump millions of votes. How many millions of children and families
across America have family members help out?
MissB
(16,340 posts)Under His Eye?