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Nevilledog

(53,390 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:20 PM Aug 2024

Vance: grandmothers helping raise children is "the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female."



NEW VANCE AUDIO: In an interview from 2020, JD Vance agrees with a podcast host who says having grandmothers help raise children is “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female.”

He also agrees when the host says grandparents helping raise children is a "weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman."
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Vance: grandmothers helping raise children is "the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female." (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2024 OP
Jesus Christ this guy ismnotwasm Aug 2024 #1
he's a real shit bird eh? democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #38
He's absolutely repulsive. ismnotwasm Aug 2024 #39
No, it's not. This postmenopausal woman's whole purpose is to permanently defeat TSF/JD Vance. sinkingfeeling Aug 2024 #2
Ditto here!! AmBlue Aug 2024 #51
EXACTLY!!! niyad Aug 2024 #64
So if you have no children, or if you have no grandchildren because your children Ocelot II Aug 2024 #3
I'm curious about this as well Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #20
I'm postmenopausal & have no grandchildren. Dulcinea Aug 2024 #30
You become a Martha to a Commander or at Jezebel's obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #44
Play mammie for some ric....errrr...productive families? TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #53
Wonder what he thinks of men who can't produce children...shoot 'em? apcalc Aug 2024 #4
It's the woman's fault. Trade her in so he can have children! Vance is a dangerous lunatic. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #80
His offensiveness and obnoxiousness appears to be endless. SharonClark Aug 2024 #5
It's also a feature and not a bug. n/t Hugin Aug 2024 #11
Wow. Sexism, ageism and racism in one idiotic comment. highplainsdem Aug 2024 #6
What a colossal idiot. And he's a prick. Walleye Aug 2024 #7
Question....what do we do with men who can' t reproduce? apcalc Aug 2024 #8
no no, MEN are worthy simply because they have, well, MALE PARTS! Skittles Aug 2024 #79
And what is grandpa's job.. Hope22 Aug 2024 #9
IIRC, maxsolomon Aug 2024 #19
Oh dear Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #34
No, the purpose of a grandmother's life Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #10
Weird BeyondGeography Aug 2024 #12
Creepy Hugin Aug 2024 #14
He's a sick fuck too. spanone Aug 2024 #13
Next up: Postmenopausal Females for Harris! tanyev Aug 2024 #15
Sweeping, stupid statements, like the kind Mao used to make. nt The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2024 #16
DOES HE NOT REMEMBER THAT HE WAS RAISED BY HIS GRANDPARENTS? maxsolomon Aug 2024 #17
His grandmother lit his grandfather on fire when he was passed out. Nevilledog Aug 2024 #26
I wouldn't wish my grandparents as babysitters on anyone. hunter Aug 2024 #48
As a new mom Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #72
Fuck this batshit crazy idiot. hamsterjill Aug 2024 #18
Jesus Christ A_Woman_from_MI Aug 2024 #21
Beyond the sheer stupidity of this statement Raven123 Aug 2024 #22
The triple fool. Torchlight Aug 2024 #23
Occasionally the leading target of the school bully ends up bullying someone (perceived to be) even lower on hlthe2b Aug 2024 #24
We should throw cat shit at them. Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #35
Yowza! Him don't even wipe off hims shoes before jammin hims foots in him mouth! struggle4progress Aug 2024 #25
No words. Only a primal scream Joinfortmill Aug 2024 #27
My grandparents Rebl2 Aug 2024 #28
I have to rush home from work...... mjvpi Aug 2024 #29
I would not waste my good knives on him. niyad Aug 2024 #67
He seems obsessed. LuckyCharms Aug 2024 #31
OMG!! This makes me see red!!! Coventina Aug 2024 #32
Please elaborate, asshole dalton99a Aug 2024 #33
Post-menopausal teacher, here. No grandkids, so this must be the next best thing? GPV Aug 2024 #36
When you stop being Weird we'll stop calling you Weirdo, you couchf-ing POS. 617Blue Aug 2024 #37
So easy to get this idiot to agree with anything! A yes man. Absolutely zero critical thinking skills Freethinker65 Aug 2024 #40
THE WHOLE PURPOSE Brainfodder Aug 2024 #41
as a post-menopausal female, f@*k you JD Coexist Aug 2024 #42
Is this m-effer deliberately sabbotaging the Trump campaign? GoCubsGo Aug 2024 #43
I wonder. Loryn Aug 2024 #45
I think it's the opposite. GoCubsGo Aug 2024 #49
when Usha hears this JD may find himself sleeping on the COUCH... jcgoldie Aug 2024 #46
Love my grandkids and I am always willing to maptap22 Aug 2024 #47
So, JD Vance, raised by his grandparents, thinks karynnj Aug 2024 #50
Vance understands women like a 12 year old bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #52
Wow RussBLib Aug 2024 #54
We had to leave bay area to retire Tree Lady Aug 2024 #55
Women who are wise, experienced, confident and free from Jrose Aug 2024 #56
Yeah, women have no purpose except as a function. valleyrogue Aug 2024 #57
FUCK THIS GUY ellie Aug 2024 #58
Summary: Purpose women is to serve men, especially JD delisen Aug 2024 #59
Interesting how he praises his mother-in-law for giving up her career thucythucy Aug 2024 #61
Agree. nt delisen Aug 2024 #62
Tell me you hate women without saying you hate women. Solly Mack Aug 2024 #60
Have disdain for women arlyellowdog Aug 2024 #70
That, too. Solly Mack Aug 2024 #73
No, he actively HATES them. niyad Aug 2024 #74
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad Aug 2024 #63
To deranged bigots like JD Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #65
weirdo. nt. Voltaire2 Aug 2024 #66
Someone needs to introduce the Categorical Imperative to JD Vance. ZZenith Aug 2024 #68
I'm glad that all of the stupid, mean and hateful things he's said over the years are coming out Xavier Breath Aug 2024 #69
You "raise" corn. You "rear" children. niyad Aug 2024 #71
Both "raise" and "rear" children are correct. valleyrogue Aug 2024 #94
Popularity and correctness are not the same thing. niyad Aug 2024 #95
What a charmer. BadgerMom Aug 2024 #75
This guy is the gift that keeps on giving - to the Democrats! PatrickforB Aug 2024 #76
Jesus Christ get this weirdo away from us Blue Owl Aug 2024 #77
hear that, little ladies? Skittles Aug 2024 #78
His poor wife. Demobrat Aug 2024 #81
POVERTY of the mother is the usual reason grandmothers get involved heavily raising children. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 #82
WTF? Grandparents helping raise children is a "weird... feature of marrying an Indian woman" Earthrise Aug 2024 #83
If only the GOP's policies didnt sterilize some woman IbogaProject Aug 2024 #84
That filthy bearded pustule keeps oozing creepiness. Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #85
Having an in-law ready, willing, and available to assist with parenting a new born is hyper privilege. Yavin4 Aug 2024 #86
Whenever I think republicans can't get worse, Shady says "hold my couch" TBF Aug 2024 #87
Musings of a PSTD brain Xipe Totec Aug 2024 #88
I go back to what Gov. Walz said IzzaNuDay Aug 2024 #89
What is the purpose if the post-erection male. rockbluff botanist Aug 2024 #90
James Donald Vance-Chilukuri -- aka Piece of Shit. Tarzanrock Aug 2024 #91
Aw, BULLSHIT Warpy Aug 2024 #92
My brother-the grandmother csusan Aug 2024 #93
Outloud?! Sparkly Aug 2024 #96
As a post-menopausal female who adores her grandchildren... mcar Aug 2024 #97
O.K. what DUer told the Trump boys he would be a good V.P. Pick? Botany Aug 2024 #98
And what part does an Aunt serve? MissB Aug 2024 #99

democratsruletheday

(1,229 posts)
38. he's a real shit bird eh?
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:05 PM
Aug 2024

I mean.....that's a crass and harsh term but that's what he is. Same as DonOLD.

sinkingfeeling

(53,640 posts)
2. No, it's not. This postmenopausal woman's whole purpose is to permanently defeat TSF/JD Vance.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:23 PM
Aug 2024

Ocelot II

(122,381 posts)
3. So if you have no children, or if you have no grandchildren because your children
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:24 PM
Aug 2024

didn't produce any, once you hit menopause are you supposed to be set out on an ice floe to die? Or do you just head for an animal shelter to get a few cats so you can live out your life as a sad, bitter cat lady?

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
20. I'm curious about this as well
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:36 PM
Aug 2024

Because uterine cancer ended any chance my DIL had for having children, hence grandchildren for me.

I guess that makes both the DIL and I useless eaters.

Dulcinea

(7,733 posts)
30. I'm postmenopausal & have no grandchildren.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:54 PM
Aug 2024

My daughters are in college, so grandkids are on a distant horizon, if ever. One daughter wants kids "one day" & the other is ambivalent at best.

Like a lot of sad, insecure men with mommy & daddy issues, JV Dance cannot bear that women have choices, and that they make choices he doesn't approve of. No one died & left you king, Vladimir Futon. Get over yourself. And fuck off. Mind your own damn business, to quote future Vice President Walz.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
53. Play mammie for some ric....errrr...productive families?
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:45 PM
Aug 2024

This dude is garbage all the way down and worth defeating the horrible ticket just for this piece of crap from being a heartbeat away.

Lonestarblue

(12,155 posts)
80. It's the woman's fault. Trade her in so he can have children! Vance is a dangerous lunatic.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:01 PM
Aug 2024

Skittles

(161,172 posts)
79. no no, MEN are worthy simply because they have, well, MALE PARTS!
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:58 PM
Aug 2024

Vance is here to tell what makes us ladies worthy!

maxsolomon

(35,587 posts)
19. IIRC,
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:36 PM
Aug 2024

teaching kids Checkers, how to keep score in Baseball, and giving them Sprite. Also smoking cigars indoors around them.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
34. Oh dear
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:59 PM
Aug 2024

My experience of a grandfather was rather different. It seemed to be about bringing home candy bars for us kids but then eating dinner without ever looking up from his plate because kids were being heard as well as seen from the sugar high...

Whittling a wood figurine for the kid willing to sit next to him while he listened to baseball on the radio (almost always me)...

Muttering hilarious insults to himself about the idiots around him...

Driving 25 miles an hour everywhere but having no regard for center stripes, stop signs and traffic lights (OMFG we are going to DIE)...

Pointing at people's houses while driving down the road and saying, "That sumbitch owes me money..." or "Remember when that widder woman got drunk at the 4th of July parade and took off all her clothes?" Did I mention we children, none of us older than 9, were in the backseat hearing these things, much to my grandmother's mortification?

Chain-smoking unfiltered Lucky Strikes....

Having a nip of bourbon every evening after (he thought) the kids were safely in bed...

Hanging at builder supply stores yakking with the other old coots and letting his granddaughter dig in all the barrels of nuts, bolts, pipe elbows, washers...

Taking his granddaughter, not her brothers, fishing with him because she was the only one with the sense to know when to shut up, and never tattled on him for the beers he drank...

And spending hours 'figgering' his accounts on notepads cadged from the local bank. They put them out as lagniappe, and he never failed to take a few when he popped in to make a deposit. Had drawers of them back home, but he'd always take more. Ooh--today they have pens!

So, uh, yeah, my grandfather was something of a character.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
10. No, the purpose of a grandmother's life
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:26 PM
Aug 2024

Is getting the chance to live for herself at long last, rather than anyone else. She put in her time as a parent. She can choose to be involved or not with her grandchildren, to whatever extent she prefers.

She earned that right from her years of self-sacrifice.

maxsolomon

(35,587 posts)
17. DOES HE NOT REMEMBER THAT HE WAS RAISED BY HIS GRANDPARENTS?
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:34 PM
Aug 2024

there's nothing "weird" about Indian Grandparents helping with childcare. Or Hillbilly Grandparents, FFS.

My Irish/German Catholic Grandparents did that - babysitting when my parents needed to get away from us.

hunter

(39,189 posts)
48. I wouldn't wish my grandparents as babysitters on anyone.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:37 PM
Aug 2024

If my parents hadn't passed on the feral human skills they'd acquired as children some of us grandchildren might not have survived.

My grandparents were not bad people but they were not entirely grounded in this universe. They were living in a Hollywood fantasy.


Diamond_Dog

(35,632 posts)
72. As a new mom
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:32 PM
Aug 2024

I was also taking care of *my* mom bc she had myriad health issues. Guess JD never thought of that scenario.

And who are these pricks anyway to identify a woman solely by her reproductive capacity. Like we’re not even fully human. Just vessels. GAH!

hamsterjill

(15,591 posts)
18. Fuck this batshit crazy idiot.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:35 PM
Aug 2024

This post-menopausal woman has NO grandchildren and is just fine with that. I have a helluva lot more purpose than being a freaking babysitter.

Raven123

(6,250 posts)
22. Beyond the sheer stupidity of this statement
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:38 PM
Aug 2024

… is the privilege that his MIL had to be able to take A ONE YEAR SABBATICAL to be able to help the Vance family. And the privilege he had to have a third caregiver around for that year.



Torchlight

(4,252 posts)
23. The triple fool.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:39 PM
Aug 2024

'And I, which was two fools, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fools be.' (Donne)

hlthe2b

(107,530 posts)
24. Occasionally the leading target of the school bully ends up bullying someone (perceived to be) even lower on
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:40 PM
Aug 2024

the social "totem pole." Apparently, this has always been Vance and in his warped little mind, he has decided all women are "just asking" for him to target them with his ugly self-deflecting insecurities and misogyny.

Well, WE are going to show him what is what... And his narcissistic bullying buddy as well. The two of them deserve time in an open public stockade with the public allowed to throw whatever rotten fruit or other debris at them. And THEN formally face our wrath!

mjvpi

(1,578 posts)
29. I have to rush home from work......
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 03:49 PM
Aug 2024

….and remove all of the sharp objects be fore my wife hears that. Actually, fuck it, I’ll throw them first. This guy is a USSenator. WTF

Freethinker65

(11,171 posts)
40. So easy to get this idiot to agree with anything! A yes man. Absolutely zero critical thinking skills
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:06 PM
Aug 2024

Not qualified to be a US Senator. Certainly not qualified to be second in line to the U.S. Presidency.

GoCubsGo

(33,367 posts)
43. Is this m-effer deliberately sabbotaging the Trump campaign?
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:13 PM
Aug 2024

It sure as hell is starting to feel like it.

GoCubsGo

(33,367 posts)
49. I think it's the opposite.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:38 PM
Aug 2024

It's as if he's deliberately driving people, especially women, AWAY from the ticket. I starting to think that he wants Trump to lose. He has said in the past that he hates Trump, and what better way to show one's hatred toward someone than by causing him to lose an election he's only running in to keep his crooked ass out of prison?

maptap22

(165 posts)
47. Love my grandkids and I am always willing to
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:24 PM
Aug 2024

pitch in and help but it is certainly not my purpose. What an asshole this guy is!

karynnj

(60,075 posts)
50. So, JD Vance, raised by his grandparents, thinks
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:41 PM
Aug 2024

help from grandparents is something unusual that he got marrying an Indian woman?

RussBLib

(9,762 posts)
54. Wow
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:49 PM
Aug 2024

...what a regressive neanderthal asshole.

So I guess if your daughter has no kids, you have no purpose in life any longer?

https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1

Tree Lady

(12,208 posts)
55. We had to leave bay area to retire
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:51 PM
Aug 2024

and its not like our kids could afford to live there and help mom stay in CA.

Also, I had menopause early so I was still working for another 20 years after.

This guy is digusting!!

Jrose

(1,390 posts)
56. Women who are wise, experienced, confident and free from
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 04:56 PM
Aug 2024

carrying the burden of men's assaults or mistakes...
are quite a threat, aren't they?

valleyrogue

(1,360 posts)
57. Yeah, women have no purpose except as a function.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:00 PM
Aug 2024

They are just relationships to others, not human beings at all.

delisen

(6,727 posts)
59. Summary: Purpose women is to serve men, especially JD
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:05 PM
Aug 2024

J.D’s purpose is to be served. He cannot exist on his own as an adult He is the king and everyone else is a member of the court.

His secret though is that he wants to be a woman.

I see him as a candidate for suicide He wants to be on a stage and have people throw things at him, insults will suffice. He needs an intervention.

I feel sorry for him. He is emotionally drowning.HIS attacks on women are classic cries for help.

thucythucy

(8,819 posts)
61. Interesting how he praises his mother-in-law for giving up her career
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:09 PM
Aug 2024

as a biology professor to bring up his kid.

It evidently never occurs to him that he could have done that himself. Instead, he just assumes it's a "woman's duty" to sacrifice HER career so he can get on with his--whatever that might have been at the time.

I would argue that teaching biology is far more important than being a vulture--I mean venture--capitalist.

Diamond_Dog

(35,632 posts)
65. To deranged bigots like JD
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:17 PM
Aug 2024

Women are not full human beings. We are merely vessels identified by our capacity to birth.

I am so boiling angry at this I can’t find the words ….

ZZenith

(4,338 posts)
68. Someone needs to introduce the Categorical Imperative to JD Vance.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:28 PM
Aug 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative

People are ends in and of themselves, Mr. Vance, they are not merely means to your ends.

Xavier Breath

(5,260 posts)
69. I'm glad that all of the stupid, mean and hateful things he's said over the years are coming out
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 05:29 PM
Aug 2024

but damn, we in Ohio sure could have used to hear all of this two effing years ago. I don't know, maybe it still wouldn't have made that much of an impression on our electorate.

valleyrogue

(1,360 posts)
94. Both "raise" and "rear" children are correct.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 07:58 PM
Aug 2024

Upon Googling the two words, "raise" has been the more popular term since the 1960s.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,062 posts)
82. POVERTY of the mother is the usual reason grandmothers get involved heavily raising children.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:04 PM
Aug 2024

Holding down a full time job or two not-quite-full-time jobs is tough enough. Doing it with children is harder. Grandmothers can be a tremendous help with flexible load-sharing if present, willing, and able.

Earthrise

(15,719 posts)
83. WTF? Grandparents helping raise children is a "weird... feature of marrying an Indian woman"
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:04 PM
Aug 2024

Child Care Aware reports that 1 in 5 U.S. grandparents—including those in Ohio—provide child care regularly. As long as the cost of good quality daycare is high, many U.S. grandparents will spend years of their retirement raising their children's children in Ohio, Kentucky, and every other blessed state in the union.

Only a racist mind would assume that this common experience can only be explained through a racist lens.

Usha must be hearing this stupidity, right? My wife isn't white, but I love her. A weird feature of marrying an Indiana woman is grandparents who help raise children.

IbogaProject

(3,978 posts)
84. If only the GOP's policies didnt sterilize some woman
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:04 PM
Aug 2024

But of course these pampered rich toadies don't think of those under them in their distopian social and economic systems.

Yavin4

(36,836 posts)
86. Having an in-law ready, willing, and available to assist with parenting a new born is hyper privilege.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:08 PM
Aug 2024

How many career pros could ever afford to take a year off from work to do this? And, how many would want to spend their year off to take care of a child?

If his argument is that women wouldn't have to work so that they'll be available for this duty, is he advocating policies that would pay men the equivalent of two salaries to make up for the lost family income?

TBF

(34,970 posts)
87. Whenever I think republicans can't get worse, Shady says "hold my couch"
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:10 PM
Aug 2024

and comes up with something more ridiculous.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
90. What is the purpose if the post-erection male.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:25 PM
Aug 2024

Someone should really ask him since he has become an anthropologist. What a dick (haha).

Tarzanrock

(576 posts)
91. James Donald Vance-Chilukuri -- aka Piece of Shit.
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:43 PM
Aug 2024

Just when you "thought" that this perverted couch fucking, stinking piece of shit wasn't "weird" enough -- just let him talk about women and childless cat ladies. So, Vance thinks grandmothers raising children is "whole purpose of the postmenopausal female." What's next? Do we now value women by the pound? Free "caregiver" services to be provided by women in the Republican vision of women serving as "slaves to men" providing "free" labor services? What kind of "twisted" world do these fucking misogynist women haters live in? Racist, misogynist Pigs! No small wonder assholes like this Asshole want control over women's reproductive freedoms. Get out and vote, Ladies, because this election is about you and your Freedom! These evil rat bastards are going to take your Freedom away from you.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
92. Aw, BULLSHIT
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 06:56 PM
Aug 2024

Among orcas, the postmenopausal female is the leader of the group, making sure they get to the best hunting grounds and using the best strategies for thei prey. She's not a baby sitter because she's the one who doesn't have to worry about sex and reproduction, at all.

Our closest relatives, chimps and bonobos, don't have menopause but their periods of estrus grow father and farther apart as they age. The're nt just baby sitters, either. They would seem to be the educators, guides and occasional diplomats.

I hate to break it to over grown snot noses like JD, but no woman has owed him a damned thing once he got off the tit: not his mother, not his grandmother, and not any other woman on the planet. We don't exist for his comfort or convenience

The Victorians called, JD, they want their entitled moron back.



csusan

(33 posts)
93. My brother-the grandmother
Wed Aug 14, 2024, 07:39 PM
Aug 2024

My brother is retired and has 3 grandchildren. My SIL still works. My brother does it all for his grandchildren to help his daughter and son-in-law who both work. He chauffeurs, feeds the kids, meets with teacher at end of the day, takes them to ball practice and much more. He loves doing it and does as good as any post-menopausal woman. So leave us postmenopausal women alone. Let the men carry the load for awhile. If my brother didn't have grandchildren, he would spend his afternoons and early evening watching TV. It's much more healthy mentally and physically spending time taking care of the young ones. Also he is giving them memories they will never forget. Kudos to my brother for stepping up. Alot of men would have said no.

Botany

(72,922 posts)
98. O.K. what DUer told the Trump boys he would be a good V.P. Pick?
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 07:18 AM
Aug 2024

Not only is he full of crap, with out a scintilla of humanity, a man explaining idiot, but
he is costing Trump millions of votes. How many millions of children and families
across America have family members help out?

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