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Today in one of our med classes, we talked about......... (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2024 OP
And . . . What lifestyle are you following, Student? MagickMuffin Aug 2024 #1
What lifestyle? nikatnyte Aug 2024 #2
Exactly! leftieNanner Aug 2024 #4
I dont like the word "lifestyle" when it's applied in this manner. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #18
Yes leftieNanner Aug 2024 #20
Well many of them have suppressed urges IbogaProject Aug 2024 #42
Agreed! Rebl2 Aug 2024 #31
The professor nails it, find another profession. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #3
Hear, hear. pecosbob Aug 2024 #5
One of my best friends is an EMT and they will care for anyone regardless because saving a life is the goal MistakenLamb Aug 2024 #6
Regretfully DENVERPOPS Aug 2024 #13
Your religious bigotry doesn't give you the right to refuse to treat some people or let them die. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #7
this . AllaN01Bear Aug 2024 #33
Nothing the least bit radical about this professor's response. Trueblue Texan Aug 2024 #8
It's only recently - among certain groups - that this has been called into question FakeNoose Aug 2024 #11
Well, unfortunately, our country's past is not worth bragging about. 70sEraVet Aug 2024 #23
Nowadays, women are the ones encouraged to die in the parking lot Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #24
At a hospital? jimfields33 Aug 2024 #27
Yes, while miscarrying in a red state. Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #32
Wow. I'd think they'd at least stay in the room. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #36
This is the reality..... Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #37
Very sad and unnecessary. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #39
Exactly-- evolves Aug 2024 #22
Exactly Farmer-Rick Aug 2024 #25
As if the clinician's comfort is relevant in the least! Nt Trueblue Texan Aug 2024 #9
Well put! 👍😊 Hope22 Aug 2024 #10
100% mountain grammy Aug 2024 #12
GREAT response! Wild blueberry Aug 2024 #14
That student sounds like a future Frank Burns geardaddy Aug 2024 #15
true. memory trigger for me here . AllaN01Bear Aug 2024 #34
Excellent pushback on G.W. Bush's "conscience clause" allowing any hospital or person to deny care Hekate Aug 2024 #16
"Welcome to our emergency medicine department. In order to help our staff better struggle4progress Aug 2024 #17
THANK YOU Skittles Aug 2024 #19
No shit. You can't take grudges or religious baggage into work with you Warpy Aug 2024 #21
It is the same with the pharmacist who refused Conjuay Aug 2024 #26
What about the woman at subway who refused to serve jimfields33 Aug 2024 #28
Eating is not an emergency dickthegrouch Aug 2024 #38
Exceptional point. Thanks! jimfields33 Aug 2024 #40
Republicans re going to war against civility Bucky Aug 2024 #29
Good answer. Strong and definitive... however, liberalla Aug 2024 #30
love it AllaN01Bear Aug 2024 #35
That is exactly what I used to tell my dental students. PCIntern Aug 2024 #41

ShazzieB

(22,511 posts)
18. I dont like the word "lifestyle" when it's applied in this manner.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:50 PM
Aug 2024

The problem, as I see it, is that those who label being lgbtq as a "lifetyle" are misusing the word due to their own ignorance.

It blows my mind that so many people
still think one's sexuality is a choice and that we can all just be whatever we decide to be.

IbogaProject

(5,817 posts)
42. Well many of them have suppressed urges
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 12:21 PM
Aug 2024

So to them it seems like a lifestyle. But yes very ignorant.

MistakenLamb

(791 posts)
6. One of my best friends is an EMT and they will care for anyone regardless because saving a life is the goal
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:30 PM
Aug 2024

Lonestarblue

(13,453 posts)
7. Your religious bigotry doesn't give you the right to refuse to treat some people or let them die.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:39 PM
Aug 2024

The only religious exemptions I can think of as being acceptable relate to food and worship days.

Trueblue Texan

(4,403 posts)
8. Nothing the least bit radical about this professor's response.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:12 PM
Aug 2024

When I was in school, we were taught even if the patient was a convicted rapist, murderer, pedophile or any other disgusting type, you were to treat them professionally without prejudice . Their character was not relevant in the quality of care you offered.

FakeNoose

(41,290 posts)
11. It's only recently - among certain groups - that this has been called into question
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:17 PM
Aug 2024

If anyone suggested this even as recently as 20 years ago, they'd have been called "unamerican."

70sEraVet

(5,445 posts)
23. Well, unfortunately, our country's past is not worth bragging about.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:44 AM
Aug 2024

A couple of generations ago, particularly in the South, medical services were granted or withheld on the basis of race. A black man would be allowed to die in a hospital parking lot, rather than be admitted to a 'white' hospital.

evolves

(5,827 posts)
22. Exactly--
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:23 PM
Aug 2024

you treat the person in front of you. Only the condition of the body (or mind, in mental health situations) is pertinent; everything else is irrelevant.

Farmer-Rick

(12,599 posts)
25. Exactly
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:51 AM
Aug 2024

If doctors get to pick and choose who should receive their medical attention based on their religion, then very few people in prison would receive medical attention.

They already pick and choose patients based on the patient's wealth and ability to pay for the doctor's services.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
16. Excellent pushback on G.W. Bush's "conscience clause" allowing any hospital or person to deny care
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:40 PM
Aug 2024

…based on their personal religion.

The professor’s response is exactly what I’ve been saying ever since W signed that misbegotten law. Yes, it was aimed at Plan B and birth control pills, but you had to know it would be extended.

struggle4progress

(126,015 posts)
17. "Welcome to our emergency medicine department. In order to help our staff better
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:49 PM
Aug 2024

decide whether they are willing to assist you, please try to answer our interview questions as quickly and clearly as possible, so that you do not bleed out or succumb to cardiac arrest before we are comfortable sending for the necessary equipment and specialists. Here at The Good Samaritan's Hospital, we always try to keep this admission interview short. The first fifty question concern your dietary habits, religious beliefs, and reading preferences ..."

Warpy

(114,555 posts)
21. No shit. You can't take grudges or religious baggage into work with you
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:34 PM
Aug 2024

especially if you work in health care. You have to be prepared to deliver care to somebody who raped and murdered a little kid as well as Jesus jumpers who think a hospital is a great place to find new converts...starting with you.

You see all kinds in healthcare, it's a large part of what keeps things interesting. The thread that ties them all together is that they are all human beings, whether or not they have major and/or dangerous screws loose, and they're hurting and they came to you for help.

Anyone who can't see that doesn't belong anywhere near health care, and that first and foremost means right wing Christians, especially those in politics or standing in pulpits. They are supremely unqualified for the job.

Conjuay

(3,050 posts)
26. It is the same with the pharmacist who refused
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:58 AM
Aug 2024

To fill birth control prescriptions because of their religious beliefs. GO FIND A DIFFERENT JOB.

dickthegrouch

(4,483 posts)
38. Eating is not an emergency
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

Bigots can find somewhere else to eat
Most stores have a sign saying "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"
Those specific bigots should be refused all food, and oxygen.

liberalla

(11,046 posts)
30. Good answer. Strong and definitive... however,
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:19 AM
Aug 2024

the question was stupid!
(and reveals so much about the questioner. )

PCIntern

(28,256 posts)
41. That is exactly what I used to tell my dental students.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:35 AM
Aug 2024

This in the day, when other professors would instruct students to drag the mirror handle over the patient’s soft palate to see if he was gay or not. I am not kidding, I could not make this up.

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