Created lack of civic duty ever.

Not even close.

There is a wide split. If there werent, we woildnt have had the republican speakers at the dnc, or the bulwark, or the lincoln project, or the number of haley supporters who say they wont vote for trump, or a dozen other indicators.

Polls are meaningless here. They arent measuring this.

The difference between winning and losing an election? Perhaps. That only takes a few percent.

A difference that would wipe out the righteous disgust expressed in the OP for the great majority of Republicans supporting Trump? Not a chance. Yes, that many people are that stupid or hateful or willfully blind to Trump's glaring faults.

J. Dahmer could be on the R ticket and they would give him the same support.

I think the common denominator is Fox. The cable channel was launched in 1996, and the hatred of all things progressive and racial animosity began to follow. It has always been there and had been exploited by Republicans like Reagan and Nixon, but Fox brought it into the open. Civil discourse has been damaged, perhaps forever, and citizen divided against citizen to support Fox earnings and the Republican Party. Fox’s success led to followers, and hate radio seems to be big business today. We have not only an anti-democracy political party to fight but also multiple media outlets who stoke hatred and anger for profit, caring not at all that they are helping destroy democratic government.

He primed them for Fox.

he hates the same people that they hate. It. Is. That. Simple!

Go to any GOP-rah-rah website "Fox News," "Enter Stage Right," "National Review," "American Spectator," all are spewing the same level of Democratophobia as the Man of Conviction. Granted, this may not be the PROPER gauge but I just don't buy the whole never-Trumper vibe--after all these folks BIRTHED the likes of Trump, not the other way around. I CERTAINLY wouldn't trust Repubs telling pollsters, "Oh no, I can NEVER support someone like Trump." How the hell did he just glide to the nomination in the first place then?

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Trump does not have the same amount of support.

August 2024 Quinnipiac University poll, 94% of registered Republicans or Republican-leaning voters

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3903

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NPR/PBS News/Marist Poll of 1,613 National Adults

In general, do you have a favorable or an unfavorable
impression of
Kamala Harris? Democrat 87% Favorable

In general, do you have a favorable or an unfavorable
impression of
Donald Trump? Republican 89% Favorable

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/NPR_PBS-News_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_486202408050954.pdf

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August 25 - 27, 2024 Economist/YouGov Poll

95% of Democrats favor Harris;
91% of Republicans support Trump

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/50414-democratic-convention-robert-f-kennedy-jr-move-labor-day-august-25-27-2024-economist-yougov-poll

that happen to be all on the same street. I walk the neighborhood everyday and haven't seen anymore in the other streets. I haven't seen any Cancun Cruz signs up either. In 2022 there were quite a few Abbott for Governor signs up 3 months ahead of the election, alot more than the trump signs today and we're 65 days out. I do get the feeling support for the Con is waning. Hopefully for Cruz as well & we get Colin Allred in the Senate.

Where I am, they are not as crazy about him, most are just jamming up simple yard signs now, where as in the past they were more overt about it with bigger signs.

End of of the day, they will vote for him or whoever because evil liberal boogyman.

You should watch Fox on occasion, in very limited amounts if you've just eaten or are pregnant. It's enlightening to see what a dark little scared and half informed universe many of our fellow citizens are trapped in.

consume it religiously. I saw someone looking at the website, and I said over their shoulder, "fake news"; they smiled and said, "no it's not".

Hell, there are reports of women on social media asking if their husband can find out who they vote for. You think they would tell some pollster who they are really voting for?

Now I don’t know how large an effect this is. But Fearful Republican Women have no reason to trust a pollster. They are either not answering the polls or lying. Should have divorced their MAGAt husbands long ago.

I know a LOT of republican women, and the are full on board with the hate and stupidity.

The effect is real. Here is one piece worth taking a look at:
https://www.salon.com/2024/08/14/can-my-husband-find-out-i-am-voting-for-the-big-question-touching-a-nerve-this/

they're disgusting beyond belief now but make no mistake, they can and will ALWAYS go lower

It feels better to give it to the other side. A win against "them" is the main goal. I would expect most Democratic voters would do the same too

It's like football fans cheering for "our team" which is actually owned by some billionaire. It also involves some elements of religion in that in a religion like Christianity facts don't matter. This is why I don't like either.

Honestly, while he had drug them down some the last six years, the overall support with his hard core white uneducated base has kept them within striking range, and since they all have bowed down to him they are going to do the ride again and take their chances, whether the like him or not, cause LIBERALS!!!!!!

But, even if he loses he won't just go away.

They are very weak and servile people and he is too power hungry to give up all the adoration and attention. He will continue to lord over them because they are so pathetic, until he dies or the odd chance he actually sees real jail time that will keep him from running.

-His rally crowd sizes have noticably shrunk. A lot.

-There are many different republican groups publicly saying they won't vote for him.

-No more weird 'boat parties' or other nonsense.

-MUCH less of the annoying truck flags and yard signs.

I'm not buying it, he's losing his base.

It is out in the open and they are proud to be members..

In the face of actual data and ballot results. I don't know how it factors in, but I have yet to hear a decent explanation from the media about why it was that even after candidates had dropped out, 21% of the GOP primary vote went to someone other than Trump. If those are the "vote for him in the general election anyway" then why bother to show up for a meaningless primary unless you were making a statement?

Polling data follows the money.

I'm going to generalize a bit, but people who don't have empathy tend to back more conservative policies. They are the "serves them right" crowd. They like people who make bad decisions to suffer. They see the world as black and white. They struggle with nuance and ambiguity.

On the other hand, people who have empathy tend to back more open policies. They like the idea the people caught in bad circumstances can be helped. They tend to be less decisive because they want to make informed, fact based decisions.

It's just a different mentality. But in my opinion that is how conservative people can still support Trump.

That is the core of todays MAGA GOPs. That and the entitled, ordained by God gentry capitalists. Africans were beasts of burden, and the indigenous were vermin.

Todays GOP is that in its soul. America must reconcile its M.O. with its image of itself. Until that happens, The GOPs will always be with us.

due to Trump and newly registered republicans are Trump loyalists.

The percentage of a party supporting their candidate (or an issue) may not change, but what's often missed at first glance is that the party's population may have changed. As in, people start leaving the party, shrinking its total numbers...and leaving only the most die-hard behind.

Maybe a few years ago the party had, say, 30 million people and 87% of them backed a McCain or Romney. But if 10 million of your voters of the past became independents because the party was becoming more extreme, then it's not a surprise when 87% supports a candidate as radical as TSF. The 20 million who remain have made the party far more radical than when it had the 10 million more 'moderate' voters in it.

That's what has happened to the traitor party.