the real question is how he got it and how he just walked into school with it.

when you are carrying an AR-15....


... unless tended locked-door security measures are in place.

In its extremist Mandate for Leadership, dubbed “Project 2025: Presidential Transition Project,” the far-right Heritage Foundation has outlined an extreme policy vision to put power—and profits—back in the hands of the corporate gun lobby at the expense of public safety. Among other radical proposals, this agenda calls for undermining the effectiveness of federal law enforcement and replacing experts tasked with protecting the American people with far-right loyalists who don’t know how to keep our communities safe. In May 2024, Project 2025 had a booth at the annual National Rifle Association (NRA) convention,

With military grade weapons.
Shot to ribbons.

Everyone says there is nothing we can do.

We should hang our heads in deep shame.

We have failed our children.

but enough of a powerful minority do that they have prevented much change thus far---

much of the same minority that demands we protect the "lives" of
those who have never been born. After you're born,
better get yourself some body armor

We live in a democracy and can vote out leaders who promote gun violence.

We refuse to do so.

We pretend we are helpless.
While we kill our children in cold blood.

Disgusting.

protecting them...

the deer rifle, but would they? They are harder to conceal and slower firing. A guy that just hunts doesn't usually bother to have a whole bunch of ammo. They used to not bother anyway. You loaded up on shells when you bought your hunting license.

Mass marketing those assault rifles has been a disaster. A big part of their wanting everyone to have one of those things is so they are invested in the whole gun MAGAt thing. Congratulations, now you own a gun the guvmint wants to take.

I could find, while shopping guns on the internet, starting at about $550.

The cheapest Winchester-type lever action that I found was around $1300, in comparison.


Now, I didn't spend a great deal of time or effort searching, but those were my initial results...
which made no sense to me.

Probably a .22 would have been cheaper, but I wasn't interested in those.

As one can buy AR-15 style rifles for well over a grand.

I did suspect I would have better luck actually shopping gun stores physically, and used guns, but these were just my initial results shopping on the internet for an hour or so....

So I looked at a on line gun shop and found such guns available for prices from close to a thousand down to below $500

The center-fire lever rifles start at $900 at Academy unless you want a .22 Magnum center-fire which is cheaper.

In Michigan, I could legally hunt deer with it.

I own a few rifles for hunting -- Weatherby and Remington -- in various calibers: .243, .308, 7mm magnum. Each of them is bolt action and each has a magazine that holds 4 or 5 rounds.

Why only 4-5 rounds? Because it you shoot at a deer, antelope, bighorn sheep and miss, you may get lucky and get a second shot but you will not get a 3d or 4th shot because the critter is long gone when s/he hears the first shot.

If you need a 10- or 20-round magazine to hunt, you really should take up needlepoint as a hobby.

without the presence of a parent...

This really has no bearing on '2nd amendment rights' arguments,
since he did not own the weapon, and had no right to be carrying it around
without a parent present (presumably at a target range or hunting with a parent
would be the exceptions usually allowed)

Whether those exceptions are acceptable is of course, another subject
worthy of debate.

When they tell us what is was,
is more a matter of
when they wish to tell us what it was.....

Took a pretty damned long-time for us to be informed of what weapon the Trump shooter had used, in a case of extreme national significance.

In fact it took quite a bit longer, than in this case, seems to me, anyway...

too many police officers seem to have taken the doctrine to heart---

'shoot and keep shooting until any possible threat is eliminated'


Suspects who were downed with one or two bullets receive 10 or 15 or 23--- you've heard the thing, I'm sure.

before we ban this MOFO gun !! Sadly every R must owe his loyalty to the second amendment/NRA over having children being safe at school !

This could have been my school and I always feel so bad for the kids who live through this and all the guilt they must feel...

Somebody here can correct me but I will ignore it.

Most all others are known as pistols or handguns, which have a barrel less than 20-some inches.

weapons ban.

I served on Army active duty April 1967 to April 1995 -- 28 years, one year in the bush in a place called Vietnam. In addition to a 50-60 pound rucksack, I carried grenades, water, loaded ammo magazines, and AN M-16 RIFLE. As with all military weapons, the M-16 is designed for one purpose: KILLING. Not target shooting, not hunting. KILLING. And it does that very well. I know. I used it damn near every day and night.

THE AR-15 IS NOTHING BUT AN IMPROVED M-16. and don't anyone forget this. It was designed to kill people. Not hunting, not target shooting, but to KILL PEOPLE.

Our laws are clearly better.