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How many born and bred Americans can put their hands on their birth certificate? (I don't know...)
Take a guess.
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10% | |
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20%, especially those with passports | |
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30%, especially those with passports and recent Social Security registrations | |
6 (50%) |
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40% | |
0 (0%) |
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50% | |
3 (25%) |
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More than 50% | |
3 (25%) |
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Eliot Rosewater
(32,537 posts)qwlauren35
(6,279 posts)The House just passed a bill requiring people to show passports in order to vote. Turns out 48% of all Americans have passports. However, my guess is that many of them are immigrants or children of immigrants who want to visit relatives.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,537 posts)If true...if true
Passed but wont go anywhere because we control Senate,
UNCONSTITUTIONAL
assholes
qwlauren35
(6,279 posts)Typing from my phone so posting links is difficult. You can google "proof of Citizenship voting" and it pops up.
DeepWinter
(578 posts)A valid or expired passport is just one of the document that can be used for proof of citizenship. It goes on to mention others.
qwlauren35
(6,279 posts)(b) Documentary proof of United States citizenship.As used in this Act, the term documentary proof of United States citizenship means, with respect to an applicant for voter registration, any of the following:
(1) A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of the REAL ID Act of 2005 that indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States.
(2) A valid United States passport.
(3) The applicant's official United States military identification card, together with a United States military record of service showing that the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.
(4) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government showing that the applicants place of birth was in the United States.
(5) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government other than an identification described in paragraphs (1) through (4), but only if presented together with one or more of the following:
(A) A certified birth certificate issued by a State, a unit of local government in a State, or a Tribal government which
(i) was issued by the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
(ii) was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State;
(iii) includes the full name, date of birth, and place of birth of the applicant;
(iv) lists the full names of one or both of the parents of the applicant;
(v) has the signature of an individual who is authorized to sign birth certificates on behalf of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
(vi) includes the date that the certificate was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State; and
(vii) has the seal of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government that issued the birth certificate.
(B) An extract from a United States hospital Record of Birth created at the time of the applicant's birth which indicates that the applicants place of birth was in the United States.
(C) A final adoption decree showing the applicants name and that the applicants place of birth was in the United States.
(D) A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a citizen of the United States or a certification of the applicants Report of Birth of a United States citizen issued by the Secretary of State.
(E) A Naturalization Certificate or Certificate of Citizenship issued by the Secretary of Homeland Security or any other document or method of proof of United States citizenship issued by the Federal government pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act.
(F) An American Indian Card issued by the Department of Homeland Security with the classification KIC..
Eliot Rosewater
(32,537 posts)reason to require one to vote is VOTER SUPPRESSION. PERIOD
https://www.votetexas.gov/mobile/id-faqs.htm
I guess I answered my own question, sort of...
DeepWinter
(578 posts)I needed my birth certificate for my Real ID Drivers license last month. Went to my birth state website, ordered it. $15 processing fee and had it in 5 business days. Super easy.
I really don't consider proof of citizenship a burden.
You need internet access and a credit card.
Over 10% of all Americans, nearly 20% in some states, don't have internet access
25% of all Americans don't have credit cards.
It's not easy for everyone.
Basso8vb
(458 posts)This is tantamount to a poll tax, especially for low income voters.
qwlauren35
(6,279 posts)I read an article about this.
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/07/12/u-s-house-passes-bill-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-vote-in-federal-races/
Essentially, "proof of citizenship" means you have to spend money to vote. Whether its $15 + Internet + credit card, or it's $150 for a passport. It's called a "poll tax", and it was unconstitutional... until a few years ago when the Supreme Court lifted the bans on voting discrimination. Thank you, Supreme Court... yet again.
I would add that 75 million people applying for passports or birth certificates over the next 2 months so that they could vote would overwhelm every system in the country.
CanonRay
(14,922 posts)which takes forever
applegrove
(123,576 posts)if they took their husband's/partner's name upon marriage. They are trying to stop women from voting.
B.See
(3,809 posts)suppress and cull the vote in THEIR favor, and be prepared for ANYTHING.
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