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flying_wahini

(7,694 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:25 PM Sep 5

So Clarence Thomas is directing Trumps lawyer how to present his defense!? Jack Smith agreeing!


Trump’s lawyer saying in court to Judge Chutkin “ Thomas directed us to raise this issue“

Chutkin apparently responded “he directed you to do that?”
Trump’s attorney said well he didn’t direct us to and tried to backtrack.
Jack Smith sitting in court by nodding to judge YES.
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So Clarence Thomas is directing Trumps lawyer how to present his defense!? Jack Smith agreeing! (Original Post) flying_wahini Sep 5 OP
If I commit a crime, how do I get a Supreme Ct judge as my attorney? Irish_Dem Sep 5 #1
Easy. You get your supporters and defenders to B.See Sep 5 #6
Might take a while to dig up that kind of cash. :( Irish_Dem Sep 5 #18
Only if you are a billionaire and you give him gifts..... Butterflylady Sep 5 #10
I could take him to Dairy Queen. Irish_Dem Sep 5 #19
Thomas also gave Cannon heads up on dismissing the document case.................... Lovie777 Sep 5 #2
They are, rather, B.See Sep 5 #7
Arrest as co-conspirators in treason. Kid Berwyn Sep 5 #32
Yes, I'm sure Ginni is busy texting them everything he advises. flying_wahini Sep 5 #3
"He needs to go..." leftieNanner Sep 5 #4
An official act? newdeal2 Sep 5 #8
That would be great. leftieNanner Sep 5 #16
impeachment. barbtries Sep 6 #46
Absolutely! But..... leftieNanner Sep 6 #47
we don't know what's going to happen. barbtries Sep 6 #48
THIS should be all over the media like a firestorm. chowder66 Sep 5 #5
If this was Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson Punx Sep 5 #24
IF this is happening (i'm 100% sure it is) bluestarone Sep 5 #9
I think Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse ancianita Sep 5 #22
Not sure about that. returnee Sep 5 #33
Here's the background. Note the original law written by Congress. ancianita Sep 5 #35
Sorry, but that seems irrelevant to my point. returnee Sep 5 #38
Same reason they're not interested in prosecuting an attempted coup. onecaliberal Sep 5 #27
The Conservative rot in this country is actually beginning to have a smell of its own. NoMoreRepugs Sep 5 #11
Thomas must have been a Criminal Lawyer bcause he sure is a criminal Justice. Wonder Why Sep 5 #12
The guy was never a lawyer... bsiebs Sep 5 #15
So Clarence Thomas is the King? NameAlreadyTaken Sep 5 #13
More like the Sheriff of Nottingham. dchill Sep 5 #28
wtff? Is Clarence above the law? Yes or no? ecstatic Sep 5 #14
Read up on the Law regarding Supreme Court Justices. There are only tax laws that justices are subject to. ancianita Sep 5 #25
Wow talk about conflict of interest Farmer-Rick Sep 5 #17
Link to your source? Fiendish Thingy Sep 5 #20
correct. The post is factually inaccurate. Lot of that going on here lately. ZonkerHarris Sep 5 #31
agreed... much ado about NOTHING. WarGamer Sep 5 #36
Here you go. flying_wahini Sep 6 #42
Thomas needs to GOOOOOOO!!!! LymphocyteLover Sep 5 #21
Did any of his clerks communicate with trump attorneys? LiberalFighter Sep 5 #23
The SC is compromised. Thanks Clarence. Westcoast4life Sep 5 #26
I don't get this MorbidButterflyTat Sep 5 #29
We have a lot of exaggerated/fake shit being posted here lately. This is another one. ZonkerHarris Sep 5 #30
It's election season... hyperbole, fantasy and conspiracy theories are on the menu. WarGamer Sep 5 #37
not what we are here for ZonkerHarris Sep 5 #39
This really happened. Per Scott McFarlane scipan Sep 6 #41
thanks for proving my point ZonkerHarris Sep 6 #49
So Newsweek is junk? See link flying_wahini Sep 6 #43
Taking notes from a SCOTUS opinion is not personal direction and involvement ZonkerHarris Sep 6 #50
Do go on, Long Ding Silver Blue Owl Sep 5 #34
Where can I read more about this? Mme. Defarge Sep 5 #40
I saw it first on Dworkins post, then Yahoo, then Newsweek. flying_wahini Sep 6 #44
this cannot be legal barbtries Sep 6 #45
No rules apply to the Supreme Court mucifer Sep 6 #52
G.O.P. has cornered the market on corruption BoRaGard Sep 6 #51

B.See

(2,790 posts)
6. Easy. You get your supporters and defenders to
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:53 PM
Sep 5

Buy them RV's, send them of luxury all expenses paid vacations and cruises, lavish gifts on them, and line their fkng pockets with millions.

Lovie777

(13,981 posts)
2. Thomas also gave Cannon heads up on dismissing the document case....................
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:30 PM
Sep 5

Thomas and the other five are not in the USA favor.

Kid Berwyn

(17,089 posts)
32. Arrest as co-conspirators in treason.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:32 PM
Sep 5

Using their positions to obstruct justice. President Biden can officially arrest their asses, try their asses and fry their asses. Officially.

Oh, yeah. Problem solved.

flying_wahini

(7,694 posts)
3. Yes, I'm sure Ginni is busy texting them everything he advises.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:33 PM
Sep 5

He needs to go. The first day after Harris gets sworn in.

leftieNanner

(15,526 posts)
16. That would be great.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:50 PM
Sep 5

But I think the grim reaper would be the only option. Or maybe an indictment for tax fraud might do it.

He would never retire unless there was a GOPer in the White House.

barbtries

(29,406 posts)
46. impeachment.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 03:58 PM
Sep 6

is there a law that SC justices are immune from prosecution? that could be a way. prosecute his fucking ass

barbtries

(29,406 posts)
48. we don't know what's going to happen.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:03 PM
Sep 6

i personally think the TCFSF cult is fading. If and when we win in November it may (should) free up some traditional republicans to do the right thing and say what they really believe.

If a supermajority is reached something must be done about the filibuster. I don't know enough to speak intelligently about it but for starters make them actually filibuster.

chowder66

(9,634 posts)
5. THIS should be all over the media like a firestorm.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 07:50 PM
Sep 5

I have suspected they have been advising this criminal defendant all along. I literally was just thinking about it again last night.

Punx

(451 posts)
24. If this was Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:19 PM
Sep 5

Doing this,

All hell would have broken loose in the media. We would never here the end of it. And House Republicans would already have articles of impeachment drawn up.

bluestarone

(17,848 posts)
9. IF this is happening (i'm 100% sure it is)
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:23 PM
Sep 5

Why wouldn't the DOJ be interested in this? Maybe even judge Chutkin?

ancianita

(37,657 posts)
22. I think Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:09 PM
Sep 5

would tell you that while the DOJ undoubtedly has interest in this; it has absolutely no jurisdictional power (being in the Executive Branch) over the SCOTUS. In the Third Branch it's the Judicial Conference that would have to act. I believe a group of federal judges, and a few lawyers, have sent a letter to the JC to urge them to investigate and really deal with these obviously corrupt justices.

returnee

(220 posts)
33. Not sure about that.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:39 PM
Sep 5

As long as there is reasonable evidence of a crime, I think it would certainly be within the jurisdiction of the branch tasked with the enforcement of the law. The only question is, is there a crime in what Thomas is suspected of doing?

ancianita

(37,657 posts)
35. Here's the background. Note the original law written by Congress.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:49 PM
Sep 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Conference_of_the_United_States

"...Congress established an annual conference of the chief justice of the United States (or the senior associate justice if the chief is unable), and the senior circuit judge (now called the chief judge) from each judicial circuit and charged the conference with a general mandate to advise on the administrative needs of the federal courts. The act required the senior judge in each district to prepare an annual report of the business of the district's court. The conference would use these reports to prepare suggestions for the temporary transfer of judges, pending the approval of all courts involved. This expansion of the authority to transfer judges fell far short of Taft's concept of a permanent corps of at-large judges. Congress established 24 temporary judgeships, but adhered to the principle of fixed residency for district judges. Congress also declined to make the attorney general a member of the conference, although the act permitted the chief justice to request the attorney general to report on the business of the courts. Even without a formal relationship with Congress or the Department of Justice (which then administered the federal courts), the conference offered the judiciary a means of communicating its administrative needs.

The conference was renamed the Judicial Conference of the United States in 1948.[2] In 1956, Congress provided for the inclusion of the chief judge of the Court of Claims.[3] At that time, the judges of the Court of Customs and Patent Appeals (CCPA) declined to include a representative on the conference.
The size of the conference nearly doubled following an act of 1957 that provided for the appellate and district judges in each circuit to elect a district judge to represent the circuit on the conference for a term of three years. In 1961 the chief judge of the CCPA began serving on the conference.[3] ...."

At best the AG can "report on the business of the courts" but it has no subpoena or investigative power. And right now the JCUS isn't doing much but talking among themselves, only meeting twice a year, IIRC.

It's a 'separation of powers' thing across the 3 branches of government.
The only branch that can change SCOTUS is the First Branch, the People's Branch, Congress.

returnee

(220 posts)
38. Sorry, but that seems irrelevant to my point.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 10:54 PM
Sep 5

If Thomas goes out and robs a bank, are the DOJ’s hands tied?

bsiebs

(738 posts)
15. The guy was never a lawyer...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:50 PM
Sep 5

Reagan put his sorry ass in the EEOC in 1982…
Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
May 6, 1982 – March 8, 1990

Then Bush Sr put him in as a judge in US Court of Appeals…
Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
March 12, 1990 – October 23, 1991

18 months later… he has enough judicial experience to move to the Supreme Court on October 23, 1991

ancianita

(37,657 posts)
25. Read up on the Law regarding Supreme Court Justices. There are only tax laws that justices are subject to.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:28 PM
Sep 5

Since these justices make the supreme laws of the land, who can hold them accountable when there's evidence of corruption, except Congress. With this House Republican majority, that's not going to happen. So we have to win back both House and Senate to make impeachment and removal happen.

Congress, if we win it back, convenes before the next president is sworn in, so Biden can signal it to start moving on judicial reform and within that framework and most important, court expansion and impeachment. First things first.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

Fiendish Thingy

(17,327 posts)
20. Link to your source?
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 08:54 PM
Sep 5

Sounds like the defense attorney was asserting the instructions from the SCOTUS ruling (which were, in part, written as instructions to Chutkan’s court), and framed them as directions from Thomas.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,462 posts)
29. I don't get this
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 09:46 PM
Sep 5

Thomas directed what issue? Jack Smith nodding and smiling in the courtroom? Why?

Any links to anywhere available?

scipan

(2,584 posts)
41. This really happened. Per Scott McFarlane
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:54 PM
Sep 6

?t=Ta-TGuW-k_GUwYPZ2KSHpg&s=19

Defense: Justice Thomas directed us to raise this issue

Judge Chutkan interjects: "He *directed* you to do it?"

Defense: Well.. he didn't direct us to

ZonkerHarris

(25,024 posts)
50. Taking notes from a SCOTUS opinion is not personal direction and involvement
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:39 PM
Sep 6

but if you need to believe some fake shit to feel better then you do you

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