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bigtree

(89,808 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:15 PM Sep 6

Speaking as one of the voters Merchan says he's delaying sentencing for



...he's interfering with MY ability to judge Trump before the election, before we vote.

The only people he's catering to here are people who don't want to see justice done in this case. Nothing about sentencing denies Trump any of his rights in this case. He can always appeal the sentence.

There's nothing unfair about finishing the job that Merchan himself delayed with his own scheduling this close to the voting. The verdict was guilty and nothing about the sentencing will change that.

This is just ass-covering for Merchan who is confused about who this verdict is for. The American people deserve judgment now, not after this judge has blatantly enabled Trump's campaign for president.
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Speaking as one of the voters Merchan says he's delaying sentencing for (Original Post) bigtree Sep 6 OP
He doesn't want to be murdered by some raging maga. Klarkashton Sep 6 #1
it has to be about him bigtree Sep 6 #3
Fuck yes Stargleamer Sep 6 #2
Conviction Should Be Enough Aepps22 Sep 6 #5
I disagree. First of all, he won't get a prison sentence Ocelot II Sep 6 #6
If his sentence was house-arrest and wearing Stargleamer Sep 6 #9
The judge has not enabled Trump, who remains a convicted felon. Ocelot II Sep 6 #4
At first I was pissed central scrutinizer Sep 6 #7
Taking into consideration ANYTHING that is not related to the case is wrong... Think. Again. Sep 6 #8
Alvin Bragg did *not* oppose Trump's request for postponement LetMyPeopleVote Sep 6 #10
provided cover, maybe bigtree Sep 6 #12
Not wanting to be seen as political motive is being politically motivated. republianmushroom Sep 6 #11

bigtree

(89,808 posts)
3. it has to be about him
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:25 PM
Sep 6

...wanting to appear even-handed.

He should know that the convicted felon who tried to subvert his very court and threatened his daughter, and the people wanting him to evade justice, aren't the ones who deserve the judge's favor.

He looks scared here.

Stargleamer

(2,152 posts)
2. Fuck yes
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:24 PM
Sep 6

A sentence before the election could have cost the POS votes and really made a difference on November 5 if it was an appropriate sentence. Now if polls only show Harris a point ahead in a battleground state(s) or even, things might go really awry on November 5. Merchan really blew it.

Aepps22

(311 posts)
5. Conviction Should Be Enough
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:28 PM
Sep 6

In normal times a conviction would be enough to make what you said happen but I’m not sure he would get jail time. I’m in favor of a delay if he was only going to get probation.

Ocelot II

(120,110 posts)
6. I disagree. First of all, he won't get a prison sentence
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:33 PM
Sep 6

because he has no prior convictions and he was convicted of nonviolent white-collar crimes. His penalty will almost certainly be financial. But if he were to sentenced before the election, regardless of what the penalty is, he would use that sentence as further evidence that he is being persecuted by the Deep State and Biden's DoJ (even though it's a state trial and DoJ isn't involved at all, but his base doesn't understand that). It will be a rallying cry for the cult. Whatever votes he will lose on account of this case, he's already lost them because he's a 34x convicted felon - the sentence isn't the important thing; the conviction is.

Stargleamer

(2,152 posts)
9. If his sentence was house-arrest and wearing
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 03:00 PM
Sep 6

An ankle bracelet, that could make a difference. I know you might say that would be unlikely, and you might be right, but 34 felonies is 34 felonies. As for the rallying cry among his followers, well there too far gone to matter. Being under house arrest or a short stay at Rikers could cost the POS votes among Independents/Undecided folks.

Ocelot II

(120,110 posts)
4. The judge has not enabled Trump, who remains a convicted felon.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:26 PM
Sep 6

And it is very doubtful that he would receive a prison sentence in any event, for a first conviction for a nonviolent financial crime. Think about it: If he were sentenced before the election he would probably be fined, and he'd appeal the fine and nothing would change. If in the very unlikely event he were given a prison sentence, he'd appeal that and he'd be free in the meantime, and nothing would change, except that he'd be the MAGA martyr. But either way he's a convicted felon, and will be one up to and after the election. If the sentencing hearing were held before the election as previously scheduled and the judge dismissed the charges altogether as Trump has argued, that would be a thumb on the other side of the scale. Do we want that? Whatever the sentence turns out to be, it would be more ammunition for Trump's claim of persecution and a rallying point for his cult. Seems to me it's a whole lot better to leave the 34 felony convictions and the possibility of a stiff financial penalty hanging over his head until after the election.

central scrutinizer

(12,424 posts)
7. At first I was pissed
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:37 PM
Sep 6

But upon reflection I’m okay with this. TSF daily damages his chances by his incoherent rambling. We want him to continue to rant and alienate more people. If he’s in a cell and muffled, the entire GQP will be screaming “politically motivated” and it may resonate with many voters. His whole “I’m the victim here.” shtick may take on some credibility.

Think. Again.

(17,207 posts)
8. Taking into consideration ANYTHING that is not related to the case is wrong...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 02:56 PM
Sep 6

...for the case.

Making decisions and actions in any case based on knowing they will have an effect on an election is election interference.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,851 posts)
10. Alvin Bragg did *not* oppose Trump's request for postponement
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:17 PM
Sep 6

Alvin Bragg did not oppose the postponement which may be a major factor in Judge Merchant's decision



This might come as a surprise to some. But keep in mind that the prosecution did *not* oppose Trump’s request for postponement. And that appears to be a key factor taken into account by Justice Merchan in determining that Trump’s sentencing hearing ought to be delayed.


bigtree

(89,808 posts)
12. provided cover, maybe
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:05 PM
Sep 6

...but Bragg was just being cautions about what the judge might decide, not agreeing that he'd like to wait until after the election, but making clear to the judge that he wasn't forcing what might be an unfavorable sentence or ruling from the bench.

I don't agree with others that this might mean jail time. If he's timid because of the election here, he'd be timid with an elected Trump. It smells of opening his own responsibility up to a popular vote.

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