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(12,393 posts)anciano
(1,436 posts)displacedvermoter
(2,346 posts)I actually believe this will actually change some minds.
I now think Shrub will do the same. I am especially hoping Laura Bush endorses Harris as well. I think she would influence some older Republican women.
MagickMuffin
(16,802 posts)The VP gets the main vote of course. But teachers to teachers are ready to teach us again. Come on Laura, support our teachers!
Gaytano70
(755 posts)First Liz
Then Dick
Then Laura
And finally, W?
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,837 posts)So this shouldnt be hard for her at all.
Sequoia
(12,488 posts)Remind me how he got this nickname.....?
vanlassie
(5,838 posts)May She Rest in Peace. We could have used her to get us thru Trump tho 😢
EarnestPutz
(2,511 posts)BrianTheEVGuy
(392 posts)Id ever care about what Shrubya thinks about anything ever again. What a weird time to be alive!
Gaytano70
(755 posts)But then again, W and Michelle Obama are kinda giggling besties
bucolic_frolic
(45,767 posts)Thank you, President Biden.
Even Dick Cheney, former VP, knows she was a good choice.
FirstLight
(13,702 posts)the ones who were more like John McCain and the "Grand Old Party" not Q-anon freaks...
really stunning to th8ink even though we consider them pretty awful (vile) ...they are actually really concerned for the Constitution...?
(...or are some of these ppl also on DJT's hit-list, and therefore not ok with him winning and throwing them in the FEMA Camps...?)
Either way, I'll take it....GO Kamala!
a kennedy
(31,373 posts)hope he doesnt win?? Ugh.....At lest Cheney has the balls to say it.
tanyev
(43,980 posts)Im so ready for it to settle down and be less interesting.
Aristus
(67,591 posts)I so, so, SO want to live in boring times!
musclecar6
(1,822 posts)We need all the help we can get. Dick Cheney kept it short and simple. He keyed in on the fact that Trump mounted an insurrection against our country. That alone is so far down the road of bad things, he must never be in the White House again. Mic drop.
bullimiami
(13,759 posts)Well. Good.
japple
(10,210 posts)lines delivered by the Doc Holliday character in the movie "Toombstone."
BattleRow
(623 posts)and his sidekick ,No Nuts.
VMA131Marine
(4,443 posts)its someone elses heart
BattleRow
(623 posts)his attic?
3catwoman3
(24,993 posts)...was, "I hope it wasn't from a Democrat. What a waste of a good heart that would be."
vanlassie
(5,838 posts)Five heart attacks and a new heart. The devils been tryin to get em.
mucifer
(24,526 posts)erronis
(16,418 posts)Taraman
(390 posts)and to throw off the meanness that has infected us.
With only one remaining party, the Democratic Party, it's possible. It's a big tent, but it's one tent -- America.
ShazzieB
(17,953 posts)erronis
(16,418 posts)They promote fealty to the bosses of the party rather than the good of the country.
I don't remember which of the founding fathers thought that they could become a scourge if allowed too much power...
ProfessorGAC
(68,359 posts)This seems to confirm that.
https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion
I ask myself: who benefits from pitting one side of the country against the other?
StarryNite
(10,401 posts)The same day I'm so disappointed in a judge for not treating Dump the same way the rest of us would have been treated I find out that somebody who I no respect for in the past I am finding myself giving kudos too.
thesquanderer
(12,239 posts)sheshe2
(86,034 posts)However this is good news.
a kennedy
(31,373 posts)She was on the impeachment trial case wasnt she?? And him?? He, Im sure doesnt have the MAGA repubs anyway.....so.....ok, just hope a few of the old guard repubs will change their mind because of the Cheneys. *keeping fingers crossed*
ailsagirl
(23,350 posts)but this news is very encouraging. Maybe other repukes will follow.
obamanut2012
(27,383 posts)Plenty of CA Repubs moved to Az.
underpants
(185,261 posts)obamanut2012
(27,383 posts)LudwigPastorius
(10,276 posts)To them, anyone who isnt in thrall of the Orange Anus is a RINO.
central scrutinizer
(12,258 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(151,829 posts)ailsagirl
(23,350 posts)BaronChocula
(2,129 posts)who used lies to get us into a war (no, I haven't forgotten), that's pretty big.
Frank D. Lincoln
(358 posts)obamanut2012
(27,383 posts)I agree with Darth Cheney.
Ocelot II
(119,188 posts)It's to the point where I wonder if I did take the brown acid despite the warnings to avoid it.
LetMyPeopleVote
(151,829 posts)BoRaGard
(2,139 posts)markodochartaigh
(1,683 posts)Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate but, because Trump was so wildly popular with the 80% of their base who are authoritarians, they realized that they could not win without him. So they put party over country and chose a Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate. From the start there were some Republican politicians who didn't support Trump, mostly they were those who could afford to tank their political careers.
Unfortunately, through Trump's buffoonish mismanagement, overt corruption, and bottom-line centered management of the worst pandemic in a century, his approval with Republicans stayed about 80%. After the (bungled) first coup attempt in US history his approval dropped for a while. But when he wasn't personally held to account his approval rate gradually returned to its previous level.
For a democracy to be functional there have to be at least two viable parties committed to democracy. The US is one party shy of a democracy. Unless and until the Republicans can wrench their party out of the control of the 80% of Republicans who are authoritarians, or OK with authoritarianism as long as they are in control, or can develop a viable new party committed to democracy, democracy in the US will be one election away from failure.
cab67
(3,156 posts)but he's at least a temporary ally.
TomSlick
(11,584 posts)"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."
anamnua
(1,273 posts)misery acquaints a man with strange bed-fellows. I will here shroud till the dregs of the storm be past.
MLF1981
(80 posts)Coming from Darth Cheney himself, this is a real surprise! That said, his endorsement of Kamala does make me feel... very conflicted.
TomSlick
(11,584 posts)Even Cheney recognizes the clear and present danger Trump presents to the Republic.
But being on the same side as one of the most evil people in the last 30 years does feel kind of strange.
TomSlick
(11,584 posts)Compared to Trump, Cheney is a piker in the world of evil.
slightlv
(3,701 posts)of a "Unitary Executive" goes a bit farther than he's comfortable with; since Cheney and Shrub were 100% behind the Unitary Executive program. Either that, or it's the wrong Unitary Executive!
Geesh... Hell Freezes Over, indeed! I wondered if Liz would be talking to her Dad about all this, but I never thought Darth Cheney would come out and endorse Kamala, not to mention say he was voting for her! Not on my bingo card at any time...
EverHopeful
(307 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 7, 2024, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)
Who could possibly have imagined a problem like that--other than anyone with a few functioning brain cells.
Seems like the usual R default mode. In this case, Unitary Executive for me but not for thee. Just like Law and order for thee but not for me and government handouts for me but not for thee.
That old one: I never expected the leopards to eat my face, sobbed the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party comes to mind. Rs don't like to face the consequences of the policies that are designed to help them and hurt others.
Editing to add that the Unitary Executive theory is awful and hope I didn't sound as if I was supporting it for Darth Cheney.
slightlv
(3,701 posts)and I agree, the Unitary Executive theory is truly awful and undemocratic. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, and others have been working to make it happen since I was at least a teenager. He really wanted Bush to be the first in the line for Proof of Idea (that would make him the power behind the throne, IMO). But I will give Cheney points for coming right out and saying T should never be anywhere near an office of power ever again. It's a low bar we're giving them for standing up for democracy, but that's all we can expect from
R's at this point. Too many of them have been brainwashed since childhood... a lot of them, thanks to the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld.
MoonchildCA
(1,331 posts)I assure you.
I truly believe these Republican endorsements are by no means, transactional. These people see that our country, as we know it, may cease to exist if Trump is elected.
Mr. Evil
(2,955 posts)so... he can't stand Donnie Rich Kid getting ahead because of it? Fuck him and his bullshit endorsement!
Kamala is the real deal and we sure don't need Dick(head) Cheney to prove it!
Clouds Passing
(989 posts)But what you did got us to this point
NH Ethylene
(30,952 posts)I despise this man. But every little bit helps.
The silence from the Bushes is getting a bit louder now that the evil Cheney has spoken.
obamanut2012
(27,383 posts)NH Ethylene
(30,952 posts)And could have a significant impact.
Dem4life1970
(242 posts)...I always referred to Dick Cheney as "Darth Cheney" or a "Sith Lord" but wow...he was
Honest Abe compared to Don the Con(vict). No comparison. He lost me at birtherism and a million things in between that and January 6th. Jan. 6 was a shocker. If he could do that, there is no bottom.
AllyCat
(16,774 posts)That is really something right there.
Klarkashton
(1,053 posts)Puts this crazy ass media horse race into perspective.
Xolodno
(6,598 posts)...you have gone too far!
Bird Lady
(1,884 posts)Hell has frozen over. It is hard for me to believe that Darth Vader is voting for a democrat.
I will suspend disbelief and hope he is actually going to do what he says.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,198 posts)When Dick Cheney turns the corner, you know Trump is toast.
bdamomma
(65,124 posts)who's next to promote the truth about the felon???? Step up now!!!!!
Lunabell
(6,516 posts)This is a day I never thought I'd see. I am really, really shocked. I wish Bush would do the same.
dalton99a
(83,261 posts)Mysterian
(5,041 posts)but they float above the bilge that are trump cultists.
bdamomma
(65,124 posts)of the earth, do we still hear crickets from them? Such cowards they are.
Red Mountain
(1,825 posts)LeftInTX
(28,997 posts)SpankMe
(3,156 posts)that the LITERAL Darth Vader of your party votes for the other candidate. This is stunning.
In my book, Dick Cheney was/is worse that W. Bush and Reagan.
But, I'll say this much about these very old-school Republicans: they still revere the raw basics of our constitutional republic and are able to recognize fascist threats from within.
Mysterian
(5,041 posts)but not clown car imbecile Trump.
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(151,829 posts)PortTack
(33,961 posts)Orrex
(63,733 posts)usregimechange
(18,396 posts)Nanjeanne
(5,388 posts)war criminal piece of shit.
Voltaire2
(14,407 posts)We have a divided oligarchy. The old establishment has made a deal. A cut in the proposed unrealized gains tax on billionaires from 40 to 28, and voila they are on board.
But the new fascist arent done yet. October should be interesting.
bluedigger
(17,131 posts)It should be a nice day to watch the pigs practice their take offs and landings.
NoSheep
(8,256 posts)D23MIURG23
(3,009 posts)NBachers
(17,790 posts)Marcuse
(7,862 posts)anamnua
(1,273 posts)For a man who has done much to destabilize the Middle-East he has had quite a Damascene/Pauline conversion.
LetMyPeopleVote
(151,829 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(3,994 posts)appleannie1
(5,150 posts)appleannie1
(5,150 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(151,829 posts)Nixie
(17,316 posts)of Harris for their support like what's-his-name does.
That makes it look like they actually know and believe the Trump threat. Maybe Cheney still gets Intel briefings and sees directly that trump is a traitor.