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Statement from Former Vice President Dick Cheney (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 OP
Wow! redstatebluegirl Sep 2024 #1
Agreed 👍 anciano Sep 2024 #2
I am kinda stunned. displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #3
Laura should definitely endorse Teachers Tim and Gwen MagickMuffin Sep 2024 #11
Maybe this is the roll out.... Gaytano70 Sep 2024 #35
I believe Laura has always leaned a little Democratic anyway Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2024 #82
Shrub...... Sequoia Sep 2024 #26
Little Bush Gaytano70 Sep 2024 #32
Awarded to him by the Late Great Molly Ivins. vanlassie Sep 2024 #76
Jeez, you're right. She was the best. EarnestPutz Sep 2024 #87
I never thought... BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #34
Strange bedfellows, indeed! Gaytano70 Sep 2024 #38
Kamala Harris was a heavyweight choice for VP. Law and Order. bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #4
Hope the old Repubs are listening... FirstLight Sep 2024 #5
Ya mean the damn repubs that'll clap tRump on the back in public, but in private a kennedy Sep 2024 #15
Whew, we do live in interesting times. tanyev Sep 2024 #6
Right there with you. Aristus Sep 2024 #80
Excellent musclecar6 Sep 2024 #7
I guess there's a line even a heartless dick won't cross. bullimiami Sep 2024 #8
As Doc Holliday once said "My hypocrisy goes only so far." Or at least that is one of the japple Sep 2024 #16
Big Dick vs Little Dick BattleRow Sep 2024 #17
To be fair ... VMA131Marine Sep 2024 #29
Will this alter the painting in BattleRow Sep 2024 #45
When I heard that Cheney had received a heart transplant, my immediate thought... 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #64
I see what you did there... vanlassie Sep 2024 #77
I think it's the putin stuff that convinced dick cheney. mucifer Sep 2024 #9
I think you are right. Cheney far preferred to deal with the Middle East oil barons and princes. erronis Sep 2024 #42
I'm a lifelong Democrat but I think America needs a national unification around our basic ideals Taraman Sep 2024 #10
I agree 100%! ShazzieB Sep 2024 #21
Political parties have shown themselves to be damaging to true democracy. erronis Sep 2024 #43
Hamilton I Believe ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #60
Exactly. Ligyron Sep 2024 #57
Crazy times. StarryNite Sep 2024 #12
I hope they make commercials of this that are played on Fox and talk radio. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2024 #13
I may not like the man... sheshe2 Sep 2024 #14
I really wonder if repubs give a shit what two Cheney's have to say...... a kennedy Sep 2024 #18
I don't like Cheney... ailsagirl Sep 2024 #24
Old School ones do obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #27
Yeah. This probably peals some votes or no-votes hoping in the right places underpants Sep 2024 #31
Yup, it gives them permission to vote for Harris obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #36
Indeed. LudwigPastorius Sep 2024 #75
He should invite TSF to go hunting with him central scrutinizer Sep 2024 #19
Sounds like a good plan LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #99
It IS huge!! ailsagirl Sep 2024 #20
Wow. Coming from the guy BaronChocula Sep 2024 #22
It's Official - We've entered an alternate reality. We're in a parallel universe. nt Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #23
Hell has frozen over obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #25
This was very much not on my bingo card. Ocelot II Sep 2024 #28
This was also NOT on my bingo card LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #102
Thanks Dick BoRaGard Sep 2024 #30
In 2015 markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #33
enemy of my enemy may not be my friend, cab67 Sep 2024 #37
I am reminded of a Churchhill quote. TomSlick Sep 2024 #49
From The Tempest by Shakespeare: anamnua Sep 2024 #88
Wow! MLF1981 Sep 2024 #39
I'm not conflicted in the least. TomSlick Sep 2024 #50
True... MLF1981 Sep 2024 #53
See my post 49 above. TomSlick Sep 2024 #56
I guess Cheney thinks *rump's version slightlv Sep 2024 #83
Guess that Unitary Executive thing is bad if the wrong executive gains power EverHopeful Sep 2024 #94
Nope, I didn't think you were support Cheney... slightlv Sep 2024 #95
He's not endorsing her based on any of her policies, MoonchildCA Sep 2024 #84
Ol' Dickie didn't get his way with the PNAC, Mr. Evil Sep 2024 #40
That's all good Dick... Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #41
Hell hath frozen over. NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #44
I am betting they are waiting to endorse on purpose obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #47
That would be a good strategy. NH Ethylene Sep 2024 #48
It is stunning how far we've come... Dem4life1970 Sep 2024 #46
Darth??? AllyCat Sep 2024 #51
That's absolutely profound. Historic. Klarkashton Sep 2024 #52
When a Sith Lord thinks you gone too far... Xolodno Sep 2024 #54
Nicole Wallace said it just right. Bird Lady Sep 2024 #55
Wonderful. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2024 #58
Okay bdamomma Sep 2024 #59
Well, I'll be damned! Lunabell Sep 2024 #61
Excellent, actually dalton99a Sep 2024 #62
Bush republicans are still the scum of the Earth Mysterian Sep 2024 #63
They still are the scum bdamomma Sep 2024 #65
I went straight here..... Red Mountain Sep 2024 #66
Maybe he has a terminal illness and doesn't want to go to the bad place at the end? LeftInTX Sep 2024 #67
How fucking bad does a candidate have to be SpankMe Sep 2024 #68
They would be fine installing AWOL Bush as dictator Mysterian Sep 2024 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #69
Hell has frozen over LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #70
One good deed PortTack Sep 2024 #71
Maybe he could invite Trump on a hunting trip, as a gesture of goodwill Orrex Sep 2024 #72
Well said. All hands on deck. usregimechange Sep 2024 #73
Thank you for your vote. Other than that stay as far away from the Democratic Party as you can you Nanjeanne Sep 2024 #78
War criminal. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #79
I'm going out to the airport tomorrow morning. bluedigger Sep 2024 #81
late NoSheep Sep 2024 #85
I'm speechless. n/t D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #86
George? George?? Are you listening? NBachers Sep 2024 #89
"Vote for Harris" Marcuse Sep 2024 #90
Wow! anamnua Sep 2024 #91
Kamala Harris is so unifying that she got the endorsement of Luke Skywalker AND Darth Vader LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #92
I can't believe that SOB is still alive. I guess evil never dies. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #93
You've got to remember, he got a new heart. That statement is proof. appleannie1 Sep 2024 #97
In all my years, that is a first. appleannie1 Sep 2024 #96
Kamala Harris on Liz and Dick Cheney endorsement: I'm honored to have their support LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #98
It's interesting that the Cheneys' haven't issued demands or conditions Nixie Sep 2024 #100
You really have to be corrupt to lose Dick Cheney's vote LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #101

displacedvermoter

(3,403 posts)
3. I am kinda stunned.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:42 PM
Sep 2024

I actually believe this will actually change some minds.

I now think Shrub will do the same. I am especially hoping Laura Bush endorses Harris as well. I think she would influence some older Republican women.

MagickMuffin

(17,291 posts)
11. Laura should definitely endorse Teachers Tim and Gwen
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 2024


The VP gets the main vote of course. But teachers to teachers are ready to teach us again. Come on Laura, support our teachers!


Sucha NastyWoman

(2,957 posts)
82. I believe Laura has always leaned a little Democratic anyway
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 09:18 PM
Sep 2024

So this shouldn’t be hard for her at all.

vanlassie

(5,913 posts)
76. Awarded to him by the Late Great Molly Ivins.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:28 PM
Sep 2024

May She Rest in Peace. We could have used her to get us thru Trump tho 😢

BrianTheEVGuy

(574 posts)
34. I never thought...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:24 PM
Sep 2024

… I’d ever care about what Shrubya thinks about anything ever again. What a weird time to be alive!

Gaytano70

(1,207 posts)
38. Strange bedfellows, indeed!
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:26 PM
Sep 2024

But then again, W and Michelle Obama are kinda giggling besties

bucolic_frolic

(48,218 posts)
4. Kamala Harris was a heavyweight choice for VP. Law and Order.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:46 PM
Sep 2024

Thank you, President Biden.

Even Dick Cheney, former VP, knows she was a good choice.

FirstLight

(14,444 posts)
5. Hope the old Repubs are listening...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:47 PM
Sep 2024

the ones who were more like John McCain and the "Grand Old Party" not Q-anon freaks...

really stunning to th8ink even though we consider them pretty awful (vile) ...they are actually really concerned for the Constitution...?

(...or are some of these ppl also on DJT's hit-list, and therefore not ok with him winning and throwing them in the FEMA Camps...?)



Either way, I'll take it....GO Kamala!

a kennedy

(32,618 posts)
15. Ya mean the damn repubs that'll clap tRump on the back in public, but in private
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:02 PM
Sep 2024

hope he doesn’t win?? Ugh.....At lest Cheney has the balls to say it.

tanyev

(45,056 posts)
6. Whew, we do live in interesting times.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:48 PM
Sep 2024

I’m so ready for it to settle down and be less interesting.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
7. Excellent
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 2024


We need all the help we can get. Dick Cheney kept it short and simple. He keyed in on the fact that Trump mounted an insurrection against our country. That alone is so far down the road of bad things, he must never be in the White House again. Mic drop.

japple

(10,419 posts)
16. As Doc Holliday once said "My hypocrisy goes only so far." Or at least that is one of the
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:03 PM
Sep 2024

lines delivered by the Doc Holliday character in the movie "Toombstone."

3catwoman3

(25,979 posts)
64. When I heard that Cheney had received a heart transplant, my immediate thought...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:33 PM
Sep 2024

...was, "I hope it wasn't from a Democrat. What a waste of a good heart that would be."

vanlassie

(5,913 posts)
77. I see what you did there...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:31 PM
Sep 2024

Five heart attacks and a new heart. The devil’s been tryin to get em.

erronis

(17,520 posts)
42. I think you are right. Cheney far preferred to deal with the Middle East oil barons and princes.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:36 PM
Sep 2024

Taraman

(398 posts)
10. I'm a lifelong Democrat but I think America needs a national unification around our basic ideals
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 2024

and to throw off the meanness that has infected us.

With only one remaining party, the Democratic Party, it's possible. It's a big tent, but it's one tent -- America.

erronis

(17,520 posts)
43. Political parties have shown themselves to be damaging to true democracy.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:38 PM
Sep 2024

They promote fealty to the bosses of the party rather than the good of the country.

I don't remember which of the founding fathers thought that they could become a scourge if allowed too much power...

Ligyron

(7,923 posts)
57. Exactly.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:16 PM
Sep 2024

I ask myself: who benefits from pitting one side of the country against the other?

StarryNite

(11,137 posts)
12. Crazy times.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 04:56 PM
Sep 2024

The same day I'm so disappointed in a judge for not treating Dump the same way the rest of us would have been treated I find out that somebody who I no respect for in the past I am finding myself giving kudos too.

a kennedy

(32,618 posts)
18. I really wonder if repubs give a shit what two Cheney's have to say......
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:06 PM
Sep 2024

She was on the impeachment trial case wasn’t she?? And him?? He, I’m sure doesn’t have the MAGA repubs anyway.....so.....ok, just hope a few of the old guard repubs will change their mind because of the Cheney’s. *keeping fingers crossed*

ailsagirl

(23,977 posts)
24. I don't like Cheney...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:15 PM
Sep 2024

but this news is very encouraging. Maybe other repukes will follow.

BaronChocula

(2,535 posts)
22. Wow. Coming from the guy
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:15 PM
Sep 2024

who used lies to get us into a war (no, I haven't forgotten), that's pretty big.

Ocelot II

(122,381 posts)
28. This was very much not on my bingo card.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:20 PM
Sep 2024

It's to the point where I wonder if I did take the brown acid despite the warnings to avoid it.

markodochartaigh

(2,221 posts)
33. In 2015
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:22 PM
Sep 2024

Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate but, because Trump was so wildly popular with the 80% of their base who are authoritarians, they realized that they could not win without him. So they put party over country and chose a Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate. From the start there were some Republican politicians who didn't support Trump, mostly they were those who could afford to tank their political careers.

Unfortunately, through Trump's buffoonish mismanagement, overt corruption, and bottom-line centered management of the worst pandemic in a century, his approval with Republicans stayed about 80%. After the (bungled) first coup attempt in US history his approval dropped for a while. But when he wasn't personally held to account his approval rate gradually returned to its previous level.

For a democracy to be functional there have to be at least two viable parties committed to democracy. The US is one party shy of a democracy. Unless and until the Republicans can wrench their party out of the control of the 80% of Republicans who are authoritarians, or OK with authoritarianism as long as they are in control, or can develop a viable new party committed to democracy, democracy in the US will be one election away from failure.

TomSlick

(12,071 posts)
49. I am reminded of a Churchhill quote.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:53 PM
Sep 2024

"If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons."

anamnua

(1,386 posts)
88. From The Tempest by Shakespeare:
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 04:15 AM
Sep 2024

‘’misery acquaints a man with strange bed-fellows. I will here shroud till the dregs of the storm be past.”

MLF1981

(211 posts)
39. Wow!
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:31 PM
Sep 2024

Coming from Darth Cheney himself, this is a real surprise! That said, his endorsement of Kamala does make me feel... very conflicted.

TomSlick

(12,071 posts)
50. I'm not conflicted in the least.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:55 PM
Sep 2024

Even Cheney recognizes the clear and present danger Trump presents to the Republic.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
53. True...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:08 PM
Sep 2024

But being on the same side as one of the most evil people in the last 30 years does feel kind of strange.

slightlv

(4,668 posts)
83. I guess Cheney thinks *rump's version
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 09:28 PM
Sep 2024

of a "Unitary Executive" goes a bit farther than he's comfortable with; since Cheney and Shrub were 100% behind the Unitary Executive program. Either that, or it's the wrong Unitary Executive!

Geesh... Hell Freezes Over, indeed! I wondered if Liz would be talking to her Dad about all this, but I never thought Darth Cheney would come out and endorse Kamala, not to mention say he was voting for her! Not on my bingo card at any time...

EverHopeful

(399 posts)
94. Guess that Unitary Executive thing is bad if the wrong executive gains power
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 09:59 AM
Sep 2024

Last edited Sat Sep 7, 2024, 10:30 AM - Edit history (1)

Who could possibly have imagined a problem like that--other than anyone with a few functioning brain cells.

Seems like the usual R default mode. In this case, Unitary Executive for me but not for thee. Just like Law and order for thee but not for me and government handouts for me but not for thee.

That old one: I never expected the leopards to eat my face, sobbed the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party comes to mind. Rs don't like to face the consequences of the policies that are designed to help them and hurt others.

Editing to add that the Unitary Executive theory is awful and hope I didn't sound as if I was supporting it for Darth Cheney.

slightlv

(4,668 posts)
95. Nope, I didn't think you were support Cheney...
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 12:58 PM
Sep 2024

and I agree, the Unitary Executive theory is truly awful and undemocratic. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, and others have been working to make it happen since I was at least a teenager. He really wanted Bush to be the first in the line for Proof of Idea (that would make him the power behind the throne, IMO). But I will give Cheney points for coming right out and saying T should never be anywhere near an office of power ever again. It's a low bar we're giving them for standing up for democracy, but that's all we can expect from
R's at this point. Too many of them have been brainwashed since childhood... a lot of them, thanks to the likes of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

MoonchildCA

(1,344 posts)
84. He's not endorsing her based on any of her policies,
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 10:55 PM
Sep 2024

I assure you.

I truly believe these Republican endorsements are by no means, transactional. These people see that our country, as we know it, may cease to exist if Trump is elected.

Mr. Evil

(3,008 posts)
40. Ol' Dickie didn't get his way with the PNAC,
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:32 PM
Sep 2024

so... he can't stand Donnie Rich Kid getting ahead because of it? Fuck him and his bullshit endorsement!

Kamala is the real deal and we sure don't need Dick(head) Cheney to prove it!

NH Ethylene

(31,022 posts)
44. Hell hath frozen over.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:44 PM
Sep 2024

I despise this man. But every little bit helps.

The silence from the Bushes is getting a bit louder now that the evil Cheney has spoken.

Dem4life1970

(664 posts)
46. It is stunning how far we've come...
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sep 2024

...I always referred to Dick Cheney as "Darth Cheney" or a "Sith Lord" but wow...he was
Honest Abe compared to Don the Con(vict). No comparison. He lost me at birtherism and a million things in between that and January 6th. Jan. 6 was a shocker. If he could do that, there is no bottom.

Bird Lady

(1,969 posts)
55. Nicole Wallace said it just right.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:10 PM
Sep 2024

Hell has frozen over. It is hard for me to believe that Darth Vader is voting for a democrat.
I will suspend disbelief and hope he is actually going to do what he says.

Lunabell

(7,211 posts)
61. Well, I'll be damned!
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:23 PM
Sep 2024

This is a day I never thought I'd see. I am really, really shocked. I wish Bush would do the same.

Mysterian

(5,263 posts)
63. Bush republicans are still the scum of the Earth
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:28 PM
Sep 2024

but they float above the bilge that are trump cultists.

bdamomma

(67,218 posts)
65. They still are the scum
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 06:36 PM
Sep 2024

of the earth, do we still hear crickets from them? Such cowards they are.

SpankMe

(3,346 posts)
68. How fucking bad does a candidate have to be
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 07:18 PM
Sep 2024

that the LITERAL Darth Vader of your party votes for the other candidate. This is stunning.

In my book, Dick Cheney was/is worse that W. Bush and Reagan.

But, I'll say this much about these very old-school Republicans: they still revere the raw basics of our constitutional republic and are able to recognize fascist threats from within.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Nanjeanne

(5,487 posts)
78. Thank you for your vote. Other than that stay as far away from the Democratic Party as you can you
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:32 PM
Sep 2024

war criminal piece of shit.

Voltaire2

(15,077 posts)
79. War criminal.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:32 PM
Sep 2024

We have a divided oligarchy. The old establishment has made a deal. A cut in the proposed unrealized gains tax on billionaires from 40 to 28, and voila they are on board.

But the new fascist aren’t done yet. October should be interesting.


bluedigger

(17,182 posts)
81. I'm going out to the airport tomorrow morning.
Fri Sep 6, 2024, 08:43 PM
Sep 2024

It should be a nice day to watch the pigs practice their take offs and landings.

anamnua

(1,386 posts)
91. Wow!
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 07:08 AM
Sep 2024

For a man who has done much to destabilize the Middle-East he has had quite a Damascene/Pauline conversion.

Nixie

(17,491 posts)
100. It's interesting that the Cheneys' haven't issued demands or conditions
Sun Sep 8, 2024, 04:31 PM
Sep 2024

of Harris for their support like what's-his-name does.

That makes it look like they actually know and believe the Trump threat. Maybe Cheney still gets Intel briefings and sees directly that trump is a traitor.

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