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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this an early "October Surprise"?
The endorsement by Dick Cheney of VP Kamala Harris?
How many Republicans will continue to support Donald Trump after Cheney's endorsement?
I think we can safely assume that almost all of the MAGA cult will continue their support. If there are any desertions from convicted felon, it would likely be former Bush/Cheney supporters that have followed the lemmings. Cheney may give them the excuse to break away from the cult?
Or is it truly an earth-shaking political event? Is there something going on that is bigger than either political Party? Will enough people choose country over Party to make the difference in November?
Whether or not it will make the difference in the race, it is a shocking and surprising announcement, nonetheless.
WarGamer
(14,235 posts)chicoescuela
(1,358 posts)But maybe Dicks endorsement will convince a few hard right cronies to come out of the closet
Self Esteem
(953 posts)WarGamer
(14,235 posts)soandso
(374 posts)(except, maybe, Nancy Pelosi). No neocons were ever going to vote for him so it makes no difference.
JohnSJ
(94,774 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(27,011 posts)BOSSHOG
(38,838 posts)The KANSAS FARM BUREAU PAC endorsed the Democrat for a US representative seat. Be still my beating heart. SHE is the incumbent. And worthy of the seat.
not fooled
(5,980 posts)Sanity is definitely on the rise. And in unexpected places.
anciano
(1,436 posts)Hopefully the shrub endorses Harris next.
LeftInTX
(28,995 posts)At least Cheney is considered, "hard right". I think. Well at least I considered him to be. But it could just be that he was always focused on one thing. The rest of it was likely "sneer right". I really didn't know his opinion on anything except foreign policy. Don't know what he thought about anything domestic or if he even had an opinion. He probably could care less. Hell he would have probably supported Medicare for All if it supported the war in Iraq....
Think. Again.
(15,387 posts)....not only do rightwing voters now have the face-saving permission they needed to not vote for trump, old school republicans in all types of official capacities, election officers, law enforcement people, journalists, court officials, etc, etc, now also have the de-facto party's permission to not assist trump anymore.
In fact, they've been given the dog whistle to start working AGAINST trump, and will gladly do that after trump's statement this evening trashing cheney, who they still see as a former prince of the exalted republican throne.
mucifer
(24,526 posts)former republican Presidents or Vice Presidents will endorse trump. Sure maga hate the cheneys . But, we can't stop the cult. We can only hope for the independents.
Think. Again.
(15,387 posts)They might not vote FOR harris, but they won't be voting for trump, either.
mucifer
(24,526 posts)kentuck
(112,247 posts)...and her qualifications for the job. Not a small matter, in my opinion.
Think. Again.
(15,387 posts)Kid Berwyn
(17,089 posts)Dont like the guys politics or record, but I welcome him in support of Kamala Harris for President of the United States and for his loyalty to the Constitution. We are not just gathering supporters, we are establishing connections between all groups who believe in democracy and the law. Its gonna be a blue wave like no ones ever seen.
Think. Again.
(15,387 posts)former9thward
(33,050 posts)He is a father supporting his daughter. Pretty common really. His daughter, Liz, is strongly anti-Trump for many reasons, mostly personal. Her father Dick is no longer a force in the R party and probably close to death. It would be surprising and shocking if he said anything else.
kentuck
(112,247 posts)...on her qualifications for the job and on her defense credentials. It could re-assure a lot of people that might have had those doubts. That would be a good thing.
KentuckyWoman
(6,837 posts)Elvis being found with Jimmy Hoffa living in the attic of Graceland this whole time and coming out to go on record for Harris.
Dave Bowman
(3,061 posts)Thanks, I needed that!
Staph
(6,320 posts)On the one hand, Dick Cheney is a true old-school Republican, main street, big business, military-industrial complex kind of a Republican. I suspect that there are some other similar Republicans, older Republicans, who are embarrassed by Trump but didn't know that they had a choice. Cheney could lead some of them towards the light...
But...
On the other hand, this was a late Friday afternoon/evening announcement. Anyone who follows politics (and media-related techniques and manipulation) know that you announce something on Friday that you want to hide, things that are shameful or wrong. If Dick Cheney wanted this to be truly influential, he should have announced this on Monday morning, so that the chattering classes would have the whole week to talk about him. This announcement will die over the weekend.
2naSalit
(90,749 posts)We have WEEKS of potential upheaval of every kind. I just keep my seatbelt fastened and hope we don't get rolled.
Gore1FL
(21,608 posts)It's only September and there have been better surprises. nt
Silent Type
(5,490 posts)Question is, how many decent ones actually exist?