You're right about the probabilities of course, but thanks for the nightmare scenario.

What voting block hasn’t J.D. Guy-Liner pissed off?

Maybe they are so sold on their plan to have the House decide the election that they just don’t care., They sure seem to not care about a whole lot of important stuff. They’re super solid on promoting their own interest, though, and Vance looks like their ticket to ride.

Trump is gonna be rolled up like a piece of old carpet and put into a dumpster.

I'll bet you a Starbucks Kamala goes over 300 electoral votes.

But getting the egomaniacal one off the stage is no small task!

And from what I can tell he has so rubbished the working parts of the former party that there are probably only 17 of them still actively engaged who can walk and chew gum in sequence, never mind simultaneously.

The next six weeks will likely require a separate chapter in our history books.

Is he lost because of Vance.

(Even though it was his choice)

Instead of sexually assaulting women in public, the new moderate GOP now values them only for their babies

Vance is so utterly unlikable the hardcore will vote for him but not the Maga.
Democrats, women, blacks and others despise him and will not vote for him.
He’s not a kinder gentler trump, he’s a smarmy stupid quisling. Peter Thiel should have picked a more affable person. He can join Ron Desantis at the clueless table.

Those were the nicest things I could call the little shit.

Zero. He owns the party, he is the party. The MAGAts don’t like Vance either. They were really salty when he was chosen.

Unless that asshole drops dead he’s the guy.

And he’s the guy for as long as he wants to be or is able.

All it took was a bad debate performance and just a few weeks later the campaign was transformed.

I said in a long ago post that I didn't think Trump would make it to the general, and that could still be proved true. What incredible strangeness happens after that? Vance has to be front and center.

Cult leaders are surrounded by cult leader wannabes. They’re perfectly capable of deposing him. It would serve their interests and egos to be kingmakers on the level.

The GOP has had 48 million chances to dump him and passed on them every time.
Same reason why the Arlington worker didn't prosecute
Fear
Your hypothesis is not based in reality

This discussion for tomorrow?

Absolutely zero.

If Trump did die of natural causes, Republicans would be fucked even more than they hopefully already are fucked.

They think this will upset us, stop us from winning, put the campaign in disarray. As if. You have to know the Harris people are on top of this. Nothing is too low for Republicans, and we need to keep kicking them in the teeth.

They're weird and creepy. Somewhere a sofa is crying, wondering why it got dumped for Trump. Boo hoo.

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I'm quite willing to believe that the billionaire oligarchs (especially Peter Thiel, Vance's manufacturer) and the Christian Nationalists see Vance and a much more useful and less erratic stooge than Trump.

But there's no fucking way Vance is more electable that Trump.

Trump, of course, shouldn't be considered electable by any sane standard, but Trump's cult of personality isn't sane, and is not easily transferable.

Vance utterly lacks charisma, not even the weird flavor of charisma that MAGAts like. Whatever small extra appeal Vance might have to independents and never-Trump Republicans, there aren't enough extra votes to be found there to match the huge loss of diehard Trumper votes that would occur.

Remember that many Trumpers are conspiratorial nut cases. Trump could die a completely natural death yet very, very few of them would believe it. They'd be sure he was assassinated and immediately suspect Vance as being in on it, in secret collusion with Democrats and/or reptilian overlords and/or Jewish bankers, etc. etc.

This comment cracked me up. Good one

Try this one on:

Trump knows he’s done for in the courts if loses the election. He’ll have to sit through endless proceedings or be jailed outright. No kind of life for Trump.

Trump is no fool (oh stop it).He’s thinking about alternate endings. Maybe he figures an acceptable outcome is the quiet life of a mental patient in home care at Mar a Lago. Maybe he’s playing multi level chess and is simultaneously trying to steal the election AND developing an insanity defense . You know, Dementia! He’s displaying all the symptoms. What if it’s a nefarious plan?

Ooooh! Goosebumps!

GMTA

Trump’s magats wouldn’t show up to vote. The Republicans are stuck with him.

we will see the first unanimously elected President, with all of the electoral votes, since Washington.

OK, that's a little exaggerated. But not much. Vance doesn't have the character or the support to sustain what Harris is sustaining right now.

Here’s another too plausible nightmare scenario.

Trump drops out. Either he’s forced to by someone who has the goods on him, he decided a dementia defense is the only way to keep him out of jail and dropping out is a ploy for that, whatever.

Trump drops out and it’s only days or weeks before the election. The right wing coup machine starts complaining that their candidate hasn’t had a chance to campaign. It’s unfair!, they wine, Loudly and in chorus.

The legislatures that are already half way to agreeing to not certify the election take this as their cue to do exactly that. The election gets thrown to the House. Kaboom. Vance.