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womanofthehills

(9,104 posts) Sat Sep 7, 2024, 05:23 PM Sep 7

ABC News AU - " Israeli forces accused of killing their own citizens under the 'Hannibal Directive' during October 7

“In July, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz revealed commanders in the IDF gave the order to fire on troops who had been captured by Hamas at three separate locations, explicitly referencing the Hannibal Directive.

One former Israeli officer, Air Force Colonel Nof Erez, told a Haaretz podcast the directive was not specifically ordered but was "apparently applied" by responding aircrews.

Panicked, operating without their normal command structure and unable to coordinate with ground forces, they fired on vehicles returning to Gaza, knowing they were likely carrying hostages.

"This was a mass Hannibal. It was tons and tons of openings in the fence, and thousands of people in every type of vehicle, some with hostages and some without," Colonel Erez said.“

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430

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ABC News AU - " Israeli forces accused of killing their own citizens under the 'Hannibal Directive' during October 7 (Original Post) womanofthehills Sep 7 OP

How many were killed by "friendly fire"? pat_k Sep 7 #1

I read this soon after Oct 7 soandso Sep 7 #2

Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war bottomofthehill Sep 7 #3

pat_k

(10,253 posts)

1. How many were killed by "friendly fire"?

Reply to womanofthehills (Original post)

Sat Sep 7, 2024, 05:53 PM

Sep 7

I wonder if the world will ever know how many of the 1,139 were killed by IDF bullets and bombs?

The latest figure on the number of deaths in the October 7 attacks is 1,139: 695 Israeli civilians, 71 foreign nationals, and 373 security forces.[182] This data was published in December 2023, using social security data. There are additionally five people classed as missing, including four Israelis.[182] The deaths included 36 children, of whom 20 were under 15 years old and the youngest was a 10-month-old baby.

soandso

(374 posts)

2. I read this soon after Oct 7

Reply to womanofthehills (Original post)

Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:36 PM

Sep 7

and judging by the looks of the buildings and destruction - including incinerated vehicles, it sure appeared that most of it was inflicted by the Israeli military. Hamas didn't have tanks and planes. I doubt we'll ever know how many of those killed that day were a result of "friendly fire" but I'd guess a lot.

bottomofthehill

(8,624 posts)

3. Cry Havoc and let slip the dogs of war

Reply to womanofthehills (Original post)

Sat Sep 7, 2024, 08:38 PM

Sep 7

None of this happens if Hamas does not come across the boarder and slaughter Israeli civilians. There is a very simple place to lay the blame here. Where it belongs, with Hamas.

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