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groundloop

(12,389 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 05:47 PM Sep 2024

Have you ever been directly affected by gun violence? (poll)

I'm curious what percentage of us has been directly affected by guns, so am starting this little unscientific poll.

In my case I was robbed at gunpoint quite a few years ago, and more recently my step-sister was killed by a handgun (spousal abuse).... so I'm a definite yes.


95 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, I've been directly affected by guns and gun violence
47 (49%)
No, I haven't been directly affected by guns and gun violence
48 (51%)
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Have you ever been directly affected by gun violence? (poll) (Original Post) groundloop Sep 2024 OP
Best friend was robbed at gun point, coworker was killed in the SB mass shooting (2015) ColinC Sep 2024 #1
I have not been shot or shot at, if that is the definition of 'direct' hlthe2b Sep 2024 #2
Same here, No direct gun interaction but gun violence, yes...I worked at a Hospital trauma center .About 3X per week.nt mitch96 Sep 2024 #18
Does running away from a shooter Demobrat Sep 2024 #3
Yes, but to be fair, only on the battlefield, never in civilian life. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #4
I wasn't shot at,but a customer was murdered in the parking lot of my job. likesmountains 52 Sep 2024 #5
Got shot at duncang Sep 2024 #6
Family member murdered. TheProle Sep 2024 #7
Does having been stalked by your gun toting lunatic father count? PeaceWave Sep 2024 #8
I don't think you need to worry about being judged. 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #10
I didn't vote because my involvement was after the fact... usaf-vet Sep 2024 #9
My aunt shot my uncle for cheating on her. Lunabell Sep 2024 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2024 #12
My late husband killed himself- he lost both legs at Chu Lai duhneece Sep 2024 #34
... nolabear Sep 2024 #35
Civilian world- sarisataka Sep 2024 #13
Disconcerting how it's almost a majority ColinC Sep 2024 #14
Never directly affected. However, my best friend was robbed at gunpoint Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #15
My mother Rebl2 Sep 2024 #16
In the 1970's, my cousin was shot in a small store in the country in Albemarle County in Virginia. Demsrule86 Sep 2024 #17
I answered no, but the man i love grew up without a mother,..indirect. lostnfound Sep 2024 #19
Not really "gun violence" so I chose to pass Shrek Sep 2024 #20
Back in the late 80's/ early 90's we used to ski the San Jouquin Delta a lot. bluesbassman Sep 2024 #21
I was assaulted at work by my boss berniesandersmittens Sep 2024 #22
Yes... róisín_dubh Sep 2024 #23
Used a gun in self defense at 17 NickB79 Sep 2024 #24
First time, personally, was November 22, 1963. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #25
Yes I have! sorrybushisfromtexas Sep 2024 #26
Yes, sadly.... 3 murder-suicides AmBlue Sep 2024 #27
Three times. Once I was shot at, once threatened on the street by a gun pointed at me, Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #28
Saw my best friend's father shot and killed while I spent the night at his house rurallib Sep 2024 #29
My God, honey. nolabear Sep 2024 #33
Yeah, I sometimes think about how truly lucky I have been rurallib Sep 2024 #36
My father's name appears on this memorial... Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #30
Said yes, but because it has made me change how I live even just a smidge! Brainfodder Sep 2024 #31
If being held at gunpoint counts, yes. nolabear Sep 2024 #32
Yes, I was in a school shooting obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #37
Not directly, but came very close DFW Sep 2024 #38
My father was shot and killed in a family dispute when I was 4. Ping Tung Sep 2024 #39
riding my bike at the wrong place wrong time The Wandering Harper Sep 2024 #40

ColinC

(10,975 posts)
1. Best friend was robbed at gun point, coworker was killed in the SB mass shooting (2015)
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 05:49 PM
Sep 2024

And I also knew somebody who was shot dead (the facts of the case are up in the air)

hlthe2b

(106,858 posts)
2. I have not been shot or shot at, if that is the definition of 'direct'
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 05:50 PM
Sep 2024

But arguably I have been "affected" by gun violence.

mitch96

(14,783 posts)
18. Same here, No direct gun interaction but gun violence, yes...I worked at a Hospital trauma center .About 3X per week.nt
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 09:02 PM
Sep 2024

likesmountains 52

(4,179 posts)
5. I wasn't shot at,but a customer was murdered in the parking lot of my job.
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:00 PM
Sep 2024

I was 20 years old, working the night shift at Sambo's (yes) . We knew what had happened, but when I went out to my car I saw the chalk outline of where the body was . This was 1971, and I guess they still did that then. It was right behind my car, so there was plenty of blood still there. It did leave a lasting memory.

duncang

(3,734 posts)
6. Got shot at
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:03 PM
Sep 2024

While going up a creek fishing. Texas has open water laws. There was no sign, fence, or nothing posted. If there had been it would have been illegal for them to do that. Guy came out on the bank and told us to get off his property. We were in the boat fishing. He started shooting towards us with his shotgun. Luckily he was a distance away and using birdshot. The shot hit all around us. He tried.

PeaceWave

(1,081 posts)
8. Does having been stalked by your gun toting lunatic father count?
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:17 PM
Sep 2024

Approximately 23 years after my Mom left my alcoholic father, he came back - This time with guns. By this time, he was over 70. Still just as big and mean as he was all those years before though. He was stalking Mom at her place of work and left a message on my answering machine that read "The difference between you and me is that you care whether you live or die and I don't." Subsequently, I filed for a restraining order. I sought the maximum permissible - 3 years. Despite playing the answering machine message in court and presenting evidence that my father had been seeking to obtain additional guns, the judge stated that "the family court is not intended as a means of elder abuse." I knew better than to take that bait and let it slide. A one year restraining order was granted, during which my father was required to turn over all his guns. Absent that time out period for him, yeah, me and my Mom may well have been actual victims of gun violence.

P.S. - Not long after the restraining order lapsed, police were called to my father's apartment, where they found him with a gun on a nightstand, screaming at them to shoot him. Instead, they admitted him to a psychiatric unit. His medical records indicate that he had to be restrained 24/7 and was spitting at medical personnel. Two weeks later, he was dead. Judge me if you will, but regardless of the fact that he was my father, I breathed a sigh of relief.

3catwoman3

(25,712 posts)
10. I don't think you need to worry about being judged.
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:32 PM
Sep 2024

Some fathers are little more than sperm donors. It sounds like your relief is entirely justifiable.

I hope you are OK.

usaf-vet

(7,025 posts)
9. I didn't vote because my involvement was after the fact...
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 06:24 PM
Sep 2024

....as an USAF medic.. in my case I scrubbed on a surgical trauma case of a man in a domestic dispute with his wife. He said he was going out ... she said he was not... when he open the door she shot him multiple times in the back with a .22 caliber revolver.

He survived the surgery and was discharged from the hospital several days post op.

If memory serves me right he had several wounds to both lungs. But no other serious organs were damaged.

Response to groundloop (Original post)

duhneece

(4,267 posts)
34. My late husband killed himself- he lost both legs at Chu Lai
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:04 AM
Sep 2024

Then, 25 years later, my grandson shot himself in the head and miraculously survived but with mental health issues.
So, yes, we’ve been affected by gun violence.

sarisataka

(21,284 posts)
13. Civilian world-
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 07:04 PM
Sep 2024

One cousin used a gun to kill herself. Teo situations where I would have been justified going to lethal force but deescalate worked at the last moment.

Military- both ends of gun violence.

Jack Valentino

(1,512 posts)
15. Never directly affected. However, my best friend was robbed at gunpoint
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 07:59 PM
Sep 2024

while working overnight as cashier/attendant in a 24-hour gas station in a suburb just outside the city, where he had worked many years without incident.

His response was to quit that job.

Less than two years afterward at that same station,
the overnight cashier was killed in a robbery, a crime which to my knowledge, has never been solved.

Both of us were pretty glad that he had quit that job, at that point....!



Rebl2

(14,977 posts)
16. My mother
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 08:20 PM
Sep 2024

worked at a bank during her working years and experienced 3 or 4 bank robberies. The first bank robbery she experienced, one of her tellers was shot and wounded. The other robberies, nobody was shot, but a gun was used during the robbery. All happened during the 1980’s.

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
17. In the 1970's, my cousin was shot in a small store in the country in Albemarle County in Virginia.
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 08:25 PM
Sep 2024

The shooter was a serial killer from California who was going across the country killing people...made my cousin beg for hs life and then shot him according to his confession. He was my Mom's double cousin...His father and her Father were brothers. and they married two sisters. They were as close as brothers and sisters.

Shrek

(4,185 posts)
20. Not really "gun violence" so I chose to pass
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 06:50 AM
Sep 2024

But my brother was shot in a hunting mishap (years ago and he's fine now).

The poll options mention "guns and gun violence" and I'd answer "yes" for for former but "no" for the latter.

bluesbassman

(19,916 posts)
21. Back in the late 80's/ early 90's we used to ski the San Jouquin Delta a lot.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 07:26 AM
Sep 2024

It’s literally hundreds of miles of waterways that’s bank are accessible to fishermen from many points. Most of the sloughs are wide enough that a passing boat and skier isn’t disturbing your fishing, but some fishermen would get upset if we found a particularly nice run and made several passes. On one such occasion the clowns on the bank decided it would be fun to shoot their rifle into the water behind our skier to intimidate us and fired off several rounds. Unbeknownst to these idiots, I knew there was a sheriff’s boat tied up a couple turns down river at a ramp and after getting my skier out of danger I hightailed it over there and luckily they were still there. They weren’t too happy about people shooting guns into open water and immediately went to straighten those guys out.

Not a particularly violent episode, but it was one that highlights how “responsible gun owners” can turn into irresponsible gun owners when they take the step from a firearm being a defensive weapon or hunting/utility tool and turn it into a offensive weapon of intimidation. Something that crosses my mind constantly as I drive the roads in Texas where I presume every crazy driver also has a gun under their seat.

berniesandersmittens

(11,728 posts)
22. I was assaulted at work by my boss
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 07:41 AM
Sep 2024

He took off his pistol and slammed it on top of the filing cabinet before the attack.

I wasn't shot or even close to being shot. However, the threat was there and I'll never forget that metal on metal sound.

róisín_dubh

(11,924 posts)
23. Yes...
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:00 AM
Sep 2024

a family member shot themself and made sure to have their child find them first. Fucked up my relative for life (I'm being intentionally vague, sorry).

NickB79

(19,675 posts)
24. Used a gun in self defense at 17
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:01 AM
Sep 2024

Dad tried to choke out mom, 14 yr old sister broke a coffee mug across the back of his head to get him off her, dad then attacked my sister. My sister and 13 yr old brother ran to hide in our parent's bedroom, which I was near when the attack began. I grabbed a rifle from the bedroom closet and loaded it when I heard my mom screaming. Dad kicked the door in to get at us, I pointed my gun at him, and he turned and ran out of the house before I could get off a shot.

Cops arrived 45 minutes later. Threatened to arrest my mom as well if she pressed charges because my dad said she gave him the lump on his head from the coffee mug. Cops refused to listen to us kids about what really happened. They have us 15 MINUTES to collect our shit and stay at Grandma's. We were using garbage bags to pack clothes and essentials. It was the day before my senior year of high school. Then, my mom's car wouldn't start. Turns out my dad had pulled a spark plug while we waited for the cops. Took my dad's car instead.

A month later we move back home. He never touched her again while I was living there, but within 3 months of leaving for college, he beat her again, and she and my siblings moved out for good.

It took years of counseling to deal with the trauma.

Oh, also: my cousin's fiance shot himself while duck hunting and took off half his head with a shotgun. Trigger snagged on a hook inside the duck boat while the safety was off.

My daughter's elementary school went on lockdown and SWAT was called when she was in 1st grade, because people reported a man with a gun. Turns out it was an elderly man who lived next to the school, shooting squirrels in his bird feeder with a pellet gun, so false (but terrifying) alarm.

Kid Berwyn

(18,378 posts)
25. First time, personally, was November 22, 1963.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:05 AM
Sep 2024

The President of the United States of America was assassinated in broad daylight in Dallas, Texas, and the country has not been the same since.

Of course, in the decades since, I have lost loved friends and family to guns through war, murder and suicide.

26. Yes I have!
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:13 AM
Sep 2024

My nephew killed his wife and then his self. He was stepdad to her three girls all less than 13. Their dad’s families raised the girls after that. He was addicted to meth, she was an alcoholic. He had lost his job that day. He told the girls to turn up their stereos and don’t get out of their room. I preached his funeral. It was the hardest thing I ever did.

AmBlue

(3,444 posts)
27. Yes, sadly.... 3 murder-suicides
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:21 AM
Sep 2024

Two were women i worked with and saw every day. One was my sister-in-law two days before Christmas. We were planning to go to Christmas dinner at her house that year. Terrible.

Edited to add: I also had to defend myself with a .22 rifle from a man breaking & entering my house when i was 20yo and newly married. I never fired a shot and he ran away when he saw the gun, but I had PTSD for years.

Also, JFK, MLK and RFK all assasinated when I was under the age of 10yo. It seemed, frighteningly, like this was SOP for adults and politics back then.

Scrivener7

(53,243 posts)
28. Three times. Once I was shot at, once threatened on the street by a gun pointed at me,
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:21 AM
Sep 2024

and once as an endangered bystander. And that was in my career as a medical person working with children, so it's not like I was seeking danger.

rurallib

(63,296 posts)
29. Saw my best friend's father shot and killed while I spent the night at his house
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:23 AM
Sep 2024

for a sleep over. Still haunts me. It was an attempted robbery at an all night restaurant across from their bar and he happened to walk in at the wrong time.

Was shot at 6 times as a teen and in my 20s - was not in the military.

One of my best friends shot himself. Had lunch with him in the afternoon, he told me he was engaged. Next morning I heard. on the radio that he died that night from a self inflicted gunshot.

Just to top off a messy childhood, my mother tried to kill me as she tried to kill herself a couple of times.

Also was molested by the parish priest.


nolabear

(43,288 posts)
33. My God, honey.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:00 AM
Sep 2024

You are a WARRIOR. Being one can hurt like hell but surviving and not passing it on is a fight worth fighting.

rurallib

(63,296 posts)
36. Yeah, I sometimes think about how truly lucky I have been
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:06 AM
Sep 2024

and just kind of just try to make it through every day.

Lots more stories where those came from

Brainfodder

(7,181 posts)
31. Said yes, but because it has made me change how I live even just a smidge!
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:29 AM
Sep 2024

I don't shop ever on weekends, and avoid crowds as much as possible.

nolabear

(43,288 posts)
32. If being held at gunpoint counts, yes.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 08:58 AM
Sep 2024

My ex husband and I were dumb enough to hitchhike in the very late 70s. We were picked up by a trucker who we thought would get us from LA all the way across the Southwest. We were also dumb enough to fall asleep in the sleeper and woke way out in the desert to a tweaked-out guy with a BIG gun pointed at us. He demanded we have sex while he watched. Crazy, but we refused. I had the presence of mind somehow to say that if he shot us at close range he’d blow us all over the inside of his truck and never get it clean. Then refused to get out till he took us to a very public place. It was awful but the worst? We went to the State Patrol in AZ, which was where we were, and they smirked at us and did nothing. We knew who he was. We had listened to him on his CB radio and knew his handle (Big Daddy and the White Lightning Express). They refused to help. So yes, my life was impacted by guns and cops. Someday I’ll talk about my Alabama State Patrol grandfather who talked about cuffing and pistol whipping black folks and my mother once afraid was going to kill us when they got into a massive fight. She was disabled and couldn’t walk. There are people who should never, ever be near a gun. Many of them are. Way too many.

obamanut2012

(27,887 posts)
37. Yes, I was in a school shooting
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:11 AM
Sep 2024

Not a famous one, and no one died, and it was not K-12. But it was a school shooting.

It took a lot of therapy for me to be able to handle certain things, and I still loathe loathe loathe fire works and car alarms.

And no, I am not sharing details.

DFW

(56,900 posts)
38. Not directly, but came very close
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 09:22 AM
Sep 2024

I was in some South Florida airport (Ft. Lauderdale? I forget where) in January where, a few hours before, some guy with a military grade AR (he was still active duty, I think) went to the terminal I was to fly out of (or already had?--at least I missed the real action) and started shooting all over the place. A guy from my outfit was there, saw some bullets hit near him, but he wasn't hit.

Also, I have had several Europeans tell me they were afraid to visit the USA for fear of being shot. So, directly affected? I guess I'd have to say no. But affected? I'd have to say yes.

40. riding my bike at the wrong place wrong time
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 10:24 AM
Sep 2024

it was night. Took me a bit to realize the guys running at me and yelling were cops.
Next thing I know I'm on the ground with a pistol aimed at my head point blank.
Fuckin scary shit

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