I think it's just a reflection of her ethic and fiber. She's not going to beat him at being crazy and lazy. I'm pretty sure she's got some strategery up her sleeve.

...she's gonna mop the floor with him.

because he had an uncle who was a professor at MIT and therefore he's smarter than everyone. I don't think it reflects at all badly on Harris that she is preparing thoroughly; I think it shows that she means business and takes everything about her campaign and her potential presidency very seriously. Anybody who knows anything about trial preparation knows exactly what she's doing and why she's doing it - she's approaching this as she once would have approached a trial. When you prepare for a trial you have to know every single detail of the case, every aspect of the law that applies, and you have to be able to anticipate every possible curveball the opponent or the judge might throw at you. In this regard the debate is not by any means Harris' first rodeo.

See post downthread.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219432786#post5

All he ever does is make all those noises with his face and he thinks he's debating. It's impossible to hold a normal debate with him because he doesn't respond to the questions. I think Harris knows she can't effectively rebut his lies because everything he says is a lie; and instead will have to go on the offensive. She's seen enough of his performances to know what he does and to see that normal debating doesn't work.

This is the clearest, loudest definition of "double standard" I've ever seen.

Presidential candidate. Maybe a few watched clips of the joint interview. But most are beginning to show interest in the election. After Labor Day is when the interest for most voters begin. Of course, for us it’s 24/7. For most, it’s a small window that their interested.

Frustrating to the rest.

she was held to impossible standards, while Trump was held to no standards at all

with the media likely pulling up a golf cart to give him a ride right under it.

And any journalist worth their salt should be reporting that.

There is NO doubt that he is a "gish galloper" so why isn't it topic number one in speculation about how the debate may go? Do the nation a service and actually discuss something meaningful for a change.

from the article:
1) Pick your battle
When facing a Gish Galloper, going line by line is impractical, if not impossible. Instead, single out their weakest claim or argument. Highlight and mock it.

2) Call them out.
Point out what they are doing.

3. Don’t budge.
Above all, make sure you stop Gish Gallopers midstream. And then don’t let them move on to the next falsehood. Keep pounding at them with a well-prepared rebuttal. They may not concede the point, but they’ve been derailed and are now forced to argue on your terms, not theirs.

Here is an example of Prof Ken Miller actually winning a debate against Duane Gish, the eponymous practitioner of the Gish Gallop, on evolution.

Instead of wasting time on a weak argument only to have it followed by another, get your opponent to clearly state their strongest argument. Then destroy that argument.

And he never will.

"Philosophers"?

Whatever you call it, gish gallop, firehouse of falsehoods, whatever, the practitioners present a unique challenge that has been a subject of interest since before the term "gish gallop" was coined 30 years ago. There is a clear difference in effort between making bullshit claims and refuting them, a difference sometimes referred to as "the bullshit asymmetry principle" or brandolini's law.

These are things that should be the subject of discussion among analysts and journalists going into the debate.

miss Vice President, NOT $34 as you stated.

that HE lowered the price of insulin (before Joe & Kamala did).

And the brainwashed magats (or repugs voters not magat) will believe him.

Call him a liar? He will quickly say "no, you're the liar" and that will be the end of it.

Next question? (He won't answer any, just lies and lies and lies.)

How dare she!!!!!!!!!

Add in a few well placed farts and that is the best that can be done to prepare. If life has taught me one thing it is that you can’t win when ignorance/ insanity refuses to listen! She needs to watch his off the wall past debates and take the chance at screaming back until she is satisfied that nothing she says to him will get through or matter. My heart is with the VP. May she persevere. She is about to hear $#it that she in no way deserves to hear.

"Excuse me, but when I am in a room with a 34 count convicted felon who is under several more pending felony indictments, I am not debating them, I am PROSECUTING them!"

Debate prep in this case is getting used to tsf's style. His gish gallop. His outrageous lies. His offensive race/mysoginistic bating statements. How to react without over reacting (what if he calls her a b@#$% or n@##$%?).

Policy is easy. Answering even dumb questions is easy.

Debating a dimented fool who wont answer a question or use coherent sentances is hard.

There will be two seperate events. One will be an interview, the other will be a campaign stump rant. And they will happen at the same time.

The media does not know how to report on Donald Trump. So they choose to ignore everything he says with no analysis.

'He knows it all'.

Pathetic.

If Kamala keeps her wits about her and maintain her composure and keeps control of the conversation when it's her turn (and she will), she'll mop the floor easily w/ tRUMP's floppy and greasy ass hair.

It'll be very noticeable that her thorough preparation on the issues will pay off. And being a prosecutor, she'll be able to handle 'defendant tRUMP' quite well, along w/ his childish, immature, and emotional outbursts.

The outbursts by tRUMP will go a long way towards convincing the audience of tRUMP's lack of, eh..., everything!!

If anything, she needs to remind the audience that 'there he goes with his weird responses (OR his weird answers)'. Keep harping on that, since tRUMP is already rattled by the tag 'weird' being applied towards him.

Project 2025 over and over again. That is one thing he can't get away from.

So there is going to be an audience there??

tRUMP tried to get a faux event instead of the one now planned, just for the friendly faux audience, so probably not, but I could be wrong.

To spew like he did on Child care. What did he call it, weaving or some shit?
I would expect the narrators to do just a little fucking prep, or what’s the point? Just more free airtime for Jabba?
Hope she lets loose with the MuthaFucka, right before she plants a 3 inch Heel in his facial anus. Just for a little viewer pleasure.

"Excuse me, but when I am in a room with a 34 count convicted felon who is under several more pending felony indictments, I am not debating them, I am PROSECUTING them!"

Enrage him off the bat. Dig dig dig, laugh laugh laugh!!! Have him so mad his face looks like a bloated tequila sunrise. Orange and red. With salt forming around the rim of his facial anus.

paint the studio with his own feces.

..and I will record it. I will be on DU reading updates and if i see shes flat out killing him then I will watch it live.

For those assholes to heap fawning praise on Hateful 45.

be running his mouth and just lie about everything. I don't know if I will watch C span. I really don't want to hear the MSM analyzation. I hate the felon, I just want him gone. There's too much underhanded crap going on with Russia interfering again, and these stupid polls with incorrect data.

I know VP Harris is going to do well, she just has to slaughter him.

Tuesday night and we go pretty late. I may not watch it all.

"Excuse me, but when I am in a room with a 34 count convicted felon who is under several more pending felony indictments, I am not debating them, I am PROSECUTING them!"

A debate implies that both parties are presenting facts and arguments and it’s up to the American people to decide who won. Trump just throws so much BS out there that you don’t have time to fact check it all. At best he will be presented as telling untruths post debate but that’s only for the people watching the talking heads. Live it doesn’t get called out.

It probably won't matter how well Kamala Harris does, the MSM will minimize how well she does and deny the blathering pablum that trump spits out.

In Court, you can prepared up the wazoo. And if you’re lucky, adversarial counsel is making a fool of him/herself. Rule #1: Don’t interrupt. The judge/jury is/are listening.

she should say:
"Don't you just hate a know-it-all? Especially one that you know is wrong... all the time?"

or

"Was that an answer? Because all I heard was a string of nonsense."

or

"You've got to be kidding me. The whole world now knows you are both stupid and dangerous."


just a couple of suggestions.

She can be full of facts and figures and not point out “what he just said is utter nonsense.”

For good practice

...would it have been a better move strategically if Kamala had let Trump back out of the debate (when he was making excuses) without pressuring him to debate her?

That way Trump would have come across as a coward to voters without Kamala or her campaign calling him out on it and she would have avoided the ordeal of having to deal with his bullshit in a debate. She would have also avoided mainstream news media coverage of the debate that would have likely given preferential treatment to Trump.

Then again, if Kamala wins the debate decisively, her poll numbers will likely soar and she'll attract millions more voters.

It's a gamble.

I'm betting on Kamala Harris.

the job seriously.

the American people will respect and civil.

He has Hannibal Lecter

Trump just has to not pee on the floor.

We went through the same nonsense when Hillary was running.

America's mainstream media may well cause the death of our democracy.

on any knowledge base because he is only about abuse.

~Kamala Harris, Democratic National Convention, 2024

He's a POS!! and a felon.

comebacks to his sarcasm, lies, and put-downs -- and then directly make the points she needs to make. It's difficult to make corrections AND make your points within the confines of timed minutes.

the massive number of viewers that will watch it.

It is on local ABC so you don’t need cable or satellite to see it, and it will present both candidates in full view of millions of viewers.

They will see the candidates as they really are.

This debate will move the polls.

What matters is people who are undecided or weren’t going to vote in the first place, hard to imagine such people exist but they do and they have to watch, nothing else matters.

A significant number of people do not answer calls they do not recognize because of all the SPAM calls.

Besides the ton of negative publicity Chump has gotten, he is so rotten to the core, the 600!
FELON.
I still have him losing almost every state by Nov 5th with small chance of dropping dead from multiple organ failures.

over something I have absolutely no control over.

Maybe take a deep breath and try to relax.

Link to tweet

A debate is two people answering questions and giving their views on a given issue.

One person will do exactly that while the other does not answer a single question nor tell the truth a single time.