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Dennis Donovan

(28,042 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:15 PM Sep 2024

For only the 2nd time in our 179-year history, editors of Scientific American are endorsing a candidate for president



Scientific American
For only the second time in our 179-year history, the editors of Scientific American are endorsing a candidate for president. That person is Kamala Harris. | Editorial


Vote for Kamala Harris to Support Science, Health and the Environment

Kamala Harris has plans to improve health, boost the economy and mitigate climate change. Donald Trump has threats and a dangerous record

By The Editors
September 16, 2024

In the November election, the U.S. faces two futures. In one, the new president offers the country better prospects, relying on science, solid evidence and the willingness to learn from experience. She pushes policies that boost good jobs nationwide by embracing technology and clean energy. She supports education, public health and reproductive rights. She treats the climate crisis as the emergency it is and seeks to mitigate its catastrophic storms, fires and droughts.

In the other future, the new president endangers public health and safety and rejects evidence, preferring instead nonsensical conspiracy fantasies. He ignores the climate crisis in favor of more pollution. He requires that federal officials show personal loyalty to him rather than upholding U.S. laws. He fills positions in federal science and other agencies with unqualified ideologues. He goads people into hate and division, and he inspires extremists at state and local levels to pass laws that disrupt education and make it harder to earn a living.

Only one of these futures will improve the fate of this country and the world. That is why, for only the second time in our magazine’s 179-year history, the editors of Scientific American are endorsing a candidate for president. That person is Kamala Harris.

Before making this endorsement, we evaluated Harris’s record as a U.S. senator and as vice president under Joe Biden, as well as policy proposals she’s made as a presidential candidate. Her opponent, Donald Trump, who was president from 2017 to 2021, also has a record—a disastrous one. Let’s compare.

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Unexpected endorsement, but a welcomed one indeed!
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For only the 2nd time in our 179-year history, editors of Scientific American are endorsing a candidate for president (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 OP
K & R..................... Lovie777 Sep 2024 #1
They laid out the evidence teran Sep 2024 #2
It was Joe. Bantamfancier Sep 2024 #6
Thanks! teran Sep 2024 #37
Wow! Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #3
Moved me to tears. Doodley Sep 2024 #4
Me, too. 3catwoman3 Sep 2024 #22
I hear you. Me, too. wordstroken Sep 2024 #40
I'm so surprised! leftieNanner Sep 2024 #5
I know, they also didn't choose johnnyfins Sep 2024 #42
But, you know... leftieNanner Sep 2024 #49
True johnnyfins Sep 2024 #50
Well done. Magoo48 Sep 2024 #7
Expect MAJOR boycott dweller Sep 2024 #8
A boycott by both MAGAts that can read RainCaster Sep 2024 #15
Perhaps a concept of science BattleRow Sep 2024 #17
Not a problem North Coast Lawyer Sep 2024 #19
Goes along with the xian evilgelicals who also only read fantasy - the bible. erronis Sep 2024 #26
xian evilgelicals don't read either ancianita Sep 2024 #56
Oh Guns&Ammo will reply with their big endorsement of the convicted felon. bluesbassman Sep 2024 #27
MAGATS are already boycotting science mainer Sep 2024 #28
Kick dalton99a Sep 2024 #9
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Sep 2024 #10
Science! Iggo Sep 2024 #11
In Science We Trust. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #12
Good assessment of what a disaster Trump is. It needs to be repeated as often GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #13
TY & Scientific American! Cha Sep 2024 #14
K&R riverkittenDem Sep 2024 #16
Very scientifically done! dchill Sep 2024 #18
Who was the other endorsement? Bev54 Sep 2024 #20
The most interesting magazine in the world? whopis01 Sep 2024 #33
Big Woop. Donald has Taylor Swift's boyfriend's co-worker's wife... progressoid Sep 2024 #21
She liked one of his tweets, or whatever they are called but I am not sure she has Bev54 Sep 2024 #36
Yep. progressoid Sep 2024 #38
No, Taylor did outright endorse her. Elessar Zappa Sep 2024 #41
We are talking about Britany Mahomes Bev54 Sep 2024 #45
Ah ok. Elessar Zappa Sep 2024 #46
The tweet (xeet? truth? argle-bargle? ...whatever) that she liked, Chellee Sep 2024 #47
SA: doing what science does. yonder Sep 2024 #23
A lot of MAGATs are anti-science and anti-intellectual, so they probably Poiuyt Sep 2024 #24
They definitely aren't scientific Americans Nasruddin Sep 2024 #29
Something tells me this endorsement will have little influence Mysterian Sep 2024 #25
Lib Republicans Nasruddin Sep 2024 #30
I disagree. murielm99 Sep 2024 #34
Been there and lived that Nasruddin Sep 2024 #44
Too bad the first one wasn't Al Gore. LisaM Sep 2024 #31
Because science matters! It's something we all take for granted, but without it, we'd all be worse off and ffr Sep 2024 #32
The scientists get it: Chump can never be allowed back in the White House FakeNoose Sep 2024 #35
Scientists are probably the demographic jfz9580m Sep 2024 #54
Yay SA! jfz9580m Sep 2024 #39
"The failing Scientific American magazine... johnnyfins Sep 2024 #43
Correct except it would be jfz9580m Sep 2024 #53
You can expect the orange monster to say this is fake news and Scientific American magazine is kimbutgar Sep 2024 #48
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2024 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #52
Lots of good reasons to vote for Harris. Aussie105 Sep 2024 #55

teran

(57 posts)
2. They laid out the evidence
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:19 PM
Sep 2024

clearly and concisely, like good scientists do.

I didn't see a mention of the first time they endorsed, but I skimmed. Do you happen to know?

wordstroken

(683 posts)
40. I hear you. Me, too.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:38 PM
Sep 2024

Wonderful news. Even more so since the only other person was Joe Biden.

johnnyfins

(1,545 posts)
42. I know, they also didn't choose
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:08 PM
Sep 2024

Bleach under your skin, like a cleaning for COVID Guy either. How about let's explode a nuclear device in the middle of a hurricane guy? Oh...same guy. My bad.

dweller

(25,270 posts)
8. Expect MAJOR boycott
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:27 PM
Sep 2024

of science and Americans. … I doubt magats subscribe to the magazine .



✌🏻

RainCaster

(11,733 posts)
15. A boycott by both MAGAts that can read
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:41 PM
Sep 2024

What are the chances that any Republican has not only reading skills, but believes in science too?

erronis

(17,356 posts)
26. Goes along with the xian evilgelicals who also only read fantasy - the bible.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:09 PM
Sep 2024

Last edited Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:07 AM - Edit history (1)

On edit - I meant to add "only read fantasy - the bible."

bluesbassman

(19,967 posts)
27. Oh Guns&Ammo will reply with their big endorsement of the convicted felon.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:09 PM
Sep 2024

So that'll calm the knuckle draggers down.

mainer

(12,237 posts)
28. MAGATS are already boycotting science
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 02:04 PM
Sep 2024

This will not change their minds. And I doubt they subscribe to SA.

GoodRaisin

(9,689 posts)
13. Good assessment of what a disaster Trump is. It needs to be repeated as often
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:37 PM
Sep 2024

as possible how horrible Trump is.

Bev54

(11,951 posts)
20. Who was the other endorsement?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 12:53 PM
Sep 2024

Edit to add:

Did a little research their first endorsement was Biden.

Bev54

(11,951 posts)
36. She liked one of his tweets, or whatever they are called but I am not sure she has
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:20 PM
Sep 2024

openly endorsed him. I think now with the "I hate Taylor Swift" confession, Taylor might be a little guarded around them. I would be careful when I am not sure who the other guests might be.

progressoid

(50,857 posts)
38. Yep.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:25 PM
Sep 2024

I imagine Taylor has had to redouble her security efforts.

Not only because of the Austria terrorism event but also because of Drumpf and his unhinged cult.

Elessar Zappa

(16,224 posts)
41. No, Taylor did outright endorse her.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:05 PM
Sep 2024

She released a statement that said she endorsed Harris/Walz.

Chellee

(2,223 posts)
47. The tweet (xeet? truth? argle-bargle? ...whatever) that she liked,
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:31 PM
Sep 2024

she later deleted when she got push-back. So she's not his most steadfast supporter. But, I think you're right. I think Taylor should be more cautious around the Mahomes. When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time.

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
24. A lot of MAGATs are anti-science and anti-intellectual, so they probably
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:06 PM
Sep 2024

look at this statement as an affirmation of their admiration of Trump.

Mysterian

(5,225 posts)
25. Something tells me this endorsement will have little influence
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 01:08 PM
Sep 2024

on that segment of our population which believe that vaccines contain microbots from that evil mastermind Bill Gates.

Nasruddin

(888 posts)
30. Lib Republicans
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 02:24 PM
Sep 2024

A LOT of scientists and engineers fall into the Republican half of the pie
Many are old - fashioned liberal Republicans or Reagan Republicans
They can be reached.

Cult nut cases pretty unlikely. Pretty Routhian probably.

murielm99

(31,567 posts)
34. I disagree.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:08 PM
Sep 2024

My son works at Fermilab. He has been there for 22 years. The county used to go Republican all the time. That is changing, too. No matter how the county went, the Lab was Democratic. I don't think you can get more scientific than a gaggle of particle physicists.

Nasruddin

(888 posts)
44. Been there and lived that
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:21 PM
Sep 2024

Very strong Republican element in scientific/engineering circles - been that way
since they were in high school. I went to school with them, I went to university with them,
& I went to work myself in a national lab and in industry with them. They are out there
and still alive and voting.

It was probably even more true before my time.

It's possible the youngest generation is more left-leaning.

ffr

(23,140 posts)
32. Because science matters! It's something we all take for granted, but without it, we'd all be worse off and
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 02:47 PM
Sep 2024

dumb, like MAGAs.

FakeNoose

(36,193 posts)
35. The scientists get it: Chump can never be allowed back in the White House
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 03:15 PM
Sep 2024

It's not surprising that they're endorsing Kamala, because 4 years ago they endorsed Joe Biden!

Thank you, Scientific American!

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
54. Scientists are probably the demographic
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:56 PM
Sep 2024

With the lowest percentage of Trump supporters.

johnnyfins

(1,545 posts)
43. "The failing Scientific American magazine...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 04:13 PM
Sep 2024

blah, blah, blah. IMMIGRANT PET EATERS, HANNIBAL LECTOR, WHY DOESNT MY TOILET FLUSH, ELECTRIC BOAT BATTERY SHARK!!!!

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
53. Correct except it would be
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:54 PM
Sep 2024

THE FAILING SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN MAGAZINE

Never speak when you can shout instead..

kimbutgar

(23,796 posts)
48. You can expect the orange monster to say this is fake news and Scientific American magazine is
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 05:48 PM
Sep 2024

A propaganda rag!

But then I doubt any of his MAGAloon supporters even know about Scientific American magazine!

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Aussie105

(6,546 posts)
55. Lots of good reasons to vote for Harris.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:03 AM
Sep 2024

Unlike the Republican Doctrine, vote for us because we just hate everybody, just like you!

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