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LymphocyteLover

(6,463 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 11:51 AM Sep 20

Kamala's New Gun Ad



"Vice President Harris: Tim Walz and I are both gun owners. We will not take anybody's guns away. We can support the Second Amendment as I do and also agree that we need some reasonable laws. We don't want our kids or anyone to live with that kind of fear, and there are things we can do about it"

Love this

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Kamala's New Gun Ad (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Sep 20 OP
So bookmarking this... sarisataka Sep 20 #1
They're getting shot by whom? Jeebo Sep 20 #2
She seems to be a capable woman sarisataka Sep 20 #3
I'm not sure if that distinction makes a real difference stopdiggin Sep 20 #4
For me, this is disappointing. Brainstormy Sep 20 #5
Why? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #6
I have sharp longsword, some good kitchen knives, a couple heavy canes and two cats. haele Sep 20 #7
Forgot about my cat also, this is her: MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #9
When my health insurance company's doctor wnylib Sep 20 #18
What disappoints you sarisataka Sep 20 #8
I would like to have a conversation about this. There was gun violence in my family and I lost a niece as a result. CTyankee Sep 20 #10
Speculation: as she is a former prosecutor sarisataka Sep 20 #11
Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking LymphocyteLover Sep 20 #16
I'm so sorry for your loss, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 20 #12
I'm not a fan of it either jcgoldie Sep 20 #14
Yes. Personally I don't want to own a gun or have one in my house, but I can understand why she might need one LymphocyteLover Sep 20 #17
I like it...She is the 1st Democratic presidential candidate i can remember saying she has a hand gun Buckeyeblue Sep 20 #13
Thank God I didn't shoot the guy who broke into my house..... rgbecker Sep 20 #15
No one running for any office can say they'll "Take away the guns." Cyrano Sep 20 #19
Not only is he a registered gun owner sarisataka Sep 20 #20
+1... myohmy2 Sep 20 #21

Jeebo

(2,203 posts)
2. They're getting shot by whom?
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:01 PM
Sep 20

By her, or by Doug, or by the Secret Service? More likely by the Secret Service, I would think.

– Ron

sarisataka

(20,715 posts)
3. She seems to be a capable woman
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:10 PM
Sep 20

who does not need to run to a man for protection.

That said, hopefully the Secret Service would stop any threat before Ms Harris had to take matters into her own hands.

stopdiggin

(12,614 posts)
4. I'm not sure if that distinction makes a real difference
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:22 PM
Sep 20

with a statement (such as this) making a rather solid and substantive point. Why waffle, when the statement clearly doesn't?

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MarineCombatEngineer

(14,293 posts)
6. Why?
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 12:29 PM
Sep 20

She's basically saying that if anyone were break into their home, they would be shot, whether by her, her husband or the Secret Service, which is perfectly legal.
I would also, if someone is willing to enter my home uninvited, they are going to get a very rude welcome.

haele

(13,351 posts)
7. I have sharp longsword, some good kitchen knives, a couple heavy canes and two cats.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 01:03 PM
Sep 20

And a couple paintball "guns". Anyone trying to break into my house is going to be messed up by me, my spouse, or my cats.

Goblin has twice jumped up and immediately stalked and seriously attacked the ankles of a person entering the house. and fat Eris ran up to tangle and trip them as they tried to get Goblin off them. One was a twitchy delivery helper who was helping the driver deliver the new refrigerator and the other guy had come over to estimate a service who was later found to be associated with several home burglaries.
They are my roving home security systems.
I have never needed firearms. Though I do keep the paintball guns and the sword in our bedroom and Laz keeps one loaded "just in case".
They can break ribs if an intruder is not wearing pads.

Haele

wnylib

(24,017 posts)
18. When my health insurance company's doctor
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:34 PM
Sep 20

showed up for a routine Medicare home checkup, my cat eyed the doc cautiously. I sat at my kitchen table with the doc in a chair at a right angle to me.

The cat immediately sat on the floor between the doc and me and watched the doc very attentively. When the doc put a BP cuff on my arm, the cat stood up and faced the doc. When the doc puffed up the BP cuff, the cat growled at her. Doc immediately stopped and moved back.

I tried to assure the cat that it was ok, but she would not stop growling. Had to close her in the bathroom until the doc left.



sarisataka

(20,715 posts)
8. What disappoints you
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 01:14 PM
Sep 20

that both our Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates are gun owners or that a woman would be willing to use a firearm to defend herself?

CTyankee

(64,756 posts)
10. I would like to have a conversation about this. There was gun violence in my family and I lost a niece as a result.
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 01:20 PM
Sep 20

I would like to hear more about why she feels the need to have the gun in the first place, particularly if it is kept loaded. In my instance a family member with no record of any violence whatsoever got enraged over a family issue and he was drunk. The gun he had was kept. loaded, in the drawer next to his bed. He was angry, drunk and went for the gun. It was all too easy for someone to get shot and it was my niece.

So I would like to know more about why she feels she should have a loaded gun in her house in the first place. I know that there are plenty of people who have guns in their homes and there is no violence. However, I would plead with her not to say anything more about it. Let this issue alone now.

sarisataka

(20,715 posts)
11. Speculation: as she is a former prosecutor
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:03 PM
Sep 20

and has been responsible for the incarceration of many less-than-upstanding members of society she would see a benefit in being prepared to defend herself. In her position I'm sure she encountered more than a couple cases where the 911 response to a home break in arrived in time to document a murder scene.

My most sincere condolences on your loss.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,293 posts)
12. I'm so sorry for your loss,
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:06 PM
Sep 20

I too lost a family member, not to firearm violence, but to a drunk driver, so I know the pain, but VP Harris has her own reasons for owning and keeping a firearm in her home and I won't question or second guess her decision.

LymphocyteLover

(6,463 posts)
17. Yes. Personally I don't want to own a gun or have one in my house, but I can understand why she might need one
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:29 PM
Sep 20

and politically, I don't think it hurts her too much to say this and might alleviate some concerns

Buckeyeblue

(5,658 posts)
13. I like it...She is the 1st Democratic presidential candidate i can remember saying she has a hand gun
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:07 PM
Sep 20

I think this will play well. It definitely won't hurt her.

rgbecker

(4,874 posts)
15. Thank God I didn't shoot the guy who broke into my house.....
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sep 20

It was the 70's. It was a wreck of a house in a "Bad Neighborhood". I bought it for $1450.00. It was snowing outside. We were asleep.
Some commotion in the entry hallway. Wife wakes up and starts shouting out a list of names usually associate with the male gender. I wake up. WTF? There's more commotion. Guy leaves. No shooting necessary. Wife says she was shouting names to make the guy think there were lots of people in the bedroom so he better leave. Apparently a drinker, maybe a former resident, or mistakenly picked the wrong house...anyway, although I had a gun and was young and stupid, nobody got hurt and now 50 years later I can rest easy that I've never hurt anyone ever...if you don't count the bicyclist that ran into the side of my car 60 years ago.

Cyrano

(15,282 posts)
19. No one running for any office can say they'll "Take away the guns."
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 02:50 PM
Sep 20

"Get rid of all the guns" is a losing proposition for any politician.

But saying she owns a gun and "would shoot an intruder," etc. is good politics and may help her win.

(She has Secret Service protection, and that kind of rhetoric is total bullshit. What bothers me is that she has to throw in this bullshit to win over single issue voters.)

If Donald Trump said he owned a gun, I would wonder how long it would be before he actually shot someone on 5th Ave.

sarisataka

(20,715 posts)
20. Not only is he a registered gun owner
Fri Sep 20, 2024, 04:11 PM
Sep 20

he has an NYC carry permit. Strangely that elite list is populated with a disproportionate number of recognizable names. It seems the permits consider wealth and status more than need.

(Of course given his recent convictions I expert that permit will soon be revoked, if it hasn't been yet.)

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