Then go full speed ahead on passing reforms, adding new blue states, protecting voting and abortion rights, just for starters.

Should I eat dark or milk chocolate?

It honestly is irrelevant to the GOP... they don't care about governing. They get their tax cuts and judges anyway.

This impacts Democrats because Democrats actually pass actual legislation.

but could it backfire on us in the future? I think we need to play that out a little more before we jump on this.

We have to do it the first time we have a chance or we may not get a chance to do it again for along time.

Sure republicans could get the majority after we end the filibuster and repeal good democratic legislation in the absent of the filibuster, but there is also a scenario where we don't end the filibuster and then republicans do it first. Not to mention we would've completely failed democratic voters if we don't end the filibuster and allow the stuff republicans have done in the last 5 years to stand. We also won't be able to make D.C. or Puerto Rico States without ending the filibuster. So refusing to end the filibuster would cost us 4 potential Democratic Senators which would be crucial to preserving good Democratic legislation post filibuster.

The repubs don't even actually filibuster, they just say the word and that's it.

There's a non-zero chance that we end up in the minority in both chambers with a Trump second term.

One wonders how the "goes against Democracy" voters will feel when it's the only thing between us and unfettered Trumpism.

One prays we never have to learn that lesson... though frankly we should have when the lack of the filibuster gave us three Trump judges.

The Dem leadership in the Senate does not want to eliminate the filibuster.

The filibuster can not be defended via the Constitution; it is a simple Senate rule that has ruled us for our lifetimes. It is a habit, not a right.
If the filibuster is actually for the purpose of continuing debate upon an issue, take the podium and state your case. When everyone tires of talking, the voting begins.
Filibuster means no one (or at least one) doesn't go home now.

When Wyoming's 600K residents have as much power as California's 39M residents, it's already undemocratic.

Eliminating the filibuster just puts the Senate an inch or two closer to something resembling democracy.

Make a carve-out for two votes, Voting rights & Women's health (just like SCOTUS votes are carved out now). After that force them to do old school filibusters, they will break 99% of the time, only issues I see them not breaking on is Voting rights, Women's health, & border security


Just imagine the damage trump would have done in his first 2 years if he did not have a filibuster to deal with. The ACA would be gone, so would NATO, and we would currently have a National abortion bad


Getting rid of the fillibuster would allow one party who has just one good election cycle to completely reshape America, that is not a good thing. The GOP just had a good election cycle in 2016. If they have another they will fully enact Project 2025. if they don't have a fillibuster

get the majority without moving to the center. Making a carve out for Voting rights and Women's health could just as easily be repealed by a future republican majority anyway and a future republican majority could make their own carve out exceptions. The best way to go is to end the filibuster completely and add States. Btw Trump talked about ending the filibuster to repeal the ACA, but it was a moot point, because they didn't have a majority vote to repeal it thanks to 1 republican John McCain voting against it. So the ACA would've survived the Trump Presidency even if there was no filibuster.

I'm torn on this.

Without killing the filibuster, the majority of Harris’ agenda will be DOA.

No codifying Roe
No raising the minimum wage (can’t be included in a reconciliation bill IIRC)
No voting rights protection
No assault weapon ban
No court expansion or reform
No card check for union certification (bypassing elections)
No healthcare reform/expansion of prescription price negotiating

And don't cry about it when that happens.

I have no issue with the filibuster in it's original form. You know...where they have to actually stand up there and speak. The problem with it now is all these "anonymous holds" and other shit they have now. Get rid of all of that garbage, and the filibuster shouldn't be an issue.

Make the minority have to vote to sustain rather than make the majority have to override.