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Grins

(7,970 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:06 AM Sep 2024

My FAVORITE Kris Kristofferson story!!!

From the 16 April 2009 issue of Rolling Stone, at the Beacon Theatre in New York where there was a concert to celebrate Willie Nelson's 70th birthday:

I could barely see Kris Kristofferson standing to my left. Willie Nelson was in the shadows to my right. Ray Charles was standing beside Willie, idly shifting his weight back and forth. A bit farther along the wall were Elvis Costello, Wyclef Jean, Norah Jones, Shelby Lynne, Paul Simon and respective managers, friends and family. Everybody was nervous and tight. We were there for Willie Nelson’s 70th birthday concert in 2003.

Up from the basement came one of country music’s brightest stars (who shall remain nameless). At that moment in time, the Star had a monster radio hit about bombing America’s enemies back into the Stone Age.

“Happy birthday,” the Star said to Willie, breezing by us. As he passed Kristofferson in one long, confident stride, out of the corner of his mouth came:

“None of that lefty shit out there tonight, Kris.”

“What the fuck did you just say to me???” Kris growled, stepping forward.

“Oh, no,” groaned Willie under his breath. “Don’t get Kris all riled up.”

“You heard me,” the Star said, walking away in the darkness.

“Don’t turn your back to me, boy,” Kristofferson shouted, not giving a shit that basically the entire music industry seemed to be flanking him.

The Star turned around: “I don’t want any problems, Kris - I just want you to tone it down.”

Here it comes!

“You ever worn your country’s uniform?” Kris asked rhetorically.

“What?”

“Don’t ‘What?’ me, boy! You heard the question. You just don’t like the answer.” He paused just long enough to get a full chest of air. “I asked, ‘Have you ever served your country?’ The answer is, no, you have not. Have you ever killed another man? Huh? Have you ever taken another man’s life and then cashed the check your country gave you for doing it? No, you have not. So shut the fuck up!” I could feel his body pulsing with anger next to me. “You don’t know what the hell you are talking about!”

“Whatever,” the young Star muttered.

Ray Charles stood motionless. Willie Nelson looked at me and shrugged mischievously like a kid in the back of the classroom.

Kristofferson took a deep inhale and leaned against the wall, still vibrating with adrenaline. He looked over at Willie as if to say, “Don’t say a word.” Then his eyes found me.

“You know what Waylon Jennings said about guys like him?” he whispered.

I shook my head.

“They’re doin’ to country music what pantyhose did to finger-fuckin’.”

That "Star?" Toby Keith. Eff that guy.

Note: Kristofferson is the son of an Air Force General, elected to Phi Beta Kappa his junior year and graduated college summa cum laude, then became a Rhodes scholar at Oxford University where he boxed on the boxing team. After Oxford he joined the Army as a 2LT, completed both helicopter pilot training and Ranger School, rose to the rank of Captain, and at the end of his military career was given an assignment to teach English literature at West Point. From West Point he went to Nashville to be a song writer. And the rest is history.

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My FAVORITE Kris Kristofferson story!!! (Original Post) Grins Sep 2024 OP
Wow, I had not idea of his history. Always loved his music, but unaware of his back story. Biophilic Sep 2024 #1
Agree - nevcer knew the backstory. What an impressive guy Kris was. 😍. n/t iluvtennis Sep 2024 #16
He looked out a car snowybirdie Sep 2024 #2
Thank you. I always liked his music but leftyladyfrommo Sep 2024 #3
Me too! What a beautiful man! n/t mtngirl47 Sep 2024 #24
K&R....what a freaking legend Docreed2003 Sep 2024 #4
I had no idea dsc Sep 2024 #5
I knew Keith had a massive ego Docreed2003 Sep 2024 #7
He doesn't think much at all (if he ever had). He died Emile Sep 2024 #9
Toby Keith thinks BaronChocula Sep 2024 #19
WOW, I never knew his history. Thanks for posting! Emile Sep 2024 #6
After the Army he flew helicopters for the oil and gas industry in Louisiana for a while Ex Lurker Sep 2024 #8
He called our house when I was in high school ColoradoBlue Sep 2024 #10
Wow, this should be an opening post! KnR Emile Sep 2024 #12
Great story mountain grammy Sep 2024 #13
I went to your link and read your full story about it. StarryNite Sep 2024 #25
Thank you. ColoradoBlue Sep 2024 #31
I meant it. StarryNite Sep 2024 #32
ColoradoBlue......... Upthevibe Sep 2024 #27
Love it. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #11
I always like Kris, but this jumps him up a couple more notches in my opinion. patphil Sep 2024 #14
Same here. LoisB Sep 2024 #20
Whoa, I didn't see that coming. Nope, I did not. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #15
We saw him at the local Toys R' Us. Grumpy Old Guy Sep 2024 #17
Damn, Kristofferson didn't take shit from anybody - I truly respect that. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2024 #18
Great story senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #21
Here's some juicy follow-up to that event BaronChocula Sep 2024 #22
Bullies always turn into cowards and 'victims' when stood up to. canuckledragger Sep 2024 #23
Grins......... Upthevibe Sep 2024 #26
Great story but not totally true per Kris himself. SharonClark Sep 2024 #28
Kristofferson could recite William Blake from memory dalton99a Sep 2024 #29
K&R red dog 1 Sep 2024 #30
Great story Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #33
Great story! Blue_Roses Oct 2024 #34

Biophilic

(5,112 posts)
1. Wow, I had not idea of his history. Always loved his music, but unaware of his back story.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:17 AM
Sep 2024

leftyladyfrommo

(19,468 posts)
3. Thank you. I always liked his music but
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:22 AM
Sep 2024

never knew all that.
I had a big crush on him back when we were both a lot younger.

Docreed2003

(17,946 posts)
7. I knew Keith had a massive ego
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 12:12 PM
Sep 2024

But I'm surprised he'd insult Kris like that in front of Willie.

Emile

(31,315 posts)
9. He doesn't think much at all (if he ever had). He died
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sep 2024

of stomach cancer earlier this year.

BaronChocula

(2,530 posts)
19. Toby Keith thinks
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 01:09 PM
Sep 2024

he's one of America's warriors for the old white establishment. As the OP said, Eff Toby Keith.

Ex Lurker

(3,929 posts)
8. After the Army he flew helicopters for the oil and gas industry in Louisiana for a while
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sep 2024

He would land in the marsh and write songs.

ColoradoBlue

(109 posts)
10. He called our house when I was in high school
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 12:20 PM
Sep 2024

My mother was a capital D Democrat and raised all of her kids the same way. One of my favorite stories about her was the time Kris Kristofferson called our house asking for her.

She was a HUGE fan of his my entire life. She didn't just love his music, she felt a deep connection to HIM. None of her kids, who grew up in the 80s and 90s, really got the allure until much later and we teased her endlessly about it. But because of her, he was part of her lives from our first steps.

Anyway, in the early 80s, she attended a concert of his and, although she was a married mother of four, she wrote him a letter and charmed a roadie into giving it to him. My mom was super smart, a great writer, and wickedly funny so I'm sure this wasn't just any run-of-the-mill fan letter.

A couple of days later, our phone rings during dinner. I answer it and a deep, gravelly voice asks if Paula was there. Thinking it was our realtor - our house had just gone on the market - I didn't bother to ask who it was. After what seemed like forever, she walks back into the dining room, leans heavily on the door as if she was afraid her legs would give out from under her, and says, "Guess who that was?" Sarcastically, my 15-year-old self shoots back, "I dunno. Kris Kristofferson?" She yells YES and then sinks to the floor.

Apparently he was so charmed by her letter that at their next venue, he decided to give her a call. My mom, stepfather, and her best friend had been able to meet him in person a couple of years before and she asked him if he remembered it. He said he didn't but before they got off the phone, he told her, "Next time, I'll remember."

Anyway, his death hit me especially hard since my mom died a number of years ago of early onset dementia at the age of 71. He was truly an incredible person and I'll always be thankful that he took the time to give her the thrill of a lifetime. I wrote about this call and my feelings about his passing here if anyone wants to give it a read: https://medium.com/@ambers628/the-day-kris-kristofferson-called-06b563ce6a83

StarryNite

(11,009 posts)
25. I went to your link and read your full story about it.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:13 PM
Sep 2024

Wow! What a neat memory your family has of that special call and your mom. You're a talented writer. You must get that from your mom.

Grumpy Old Guy

(3,637 posts)
17. We saw him at the local Toys R' Us.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 12:59 PM
Sep 2024

He was doing his last minute Christmas shopping just like everyone else. This was in Culver City, which is not the swankiest part of L.A.

senseandsensibility

(20,478 posts)
21. Great story
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 01:17 PM
Sep 2024

and it fits with anecdotes I've heard about Kris over the years. Say what you will about the guy: he was real.

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
23. Bullies always turn into cowards and 'victims' when stood up to.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 01:30 PM
Sep 2024

Last edited Mon Sep 30, 2024, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Let the drunken loser pout.

Upthevibe

(9,329 posts)
26. Grins.........
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sep 2024

What a great story.

I've known about KK's backstory.,,,,,, That he was in the service, that he was a Rhodes Scholar, and that he was progressive.

Thank you for sharing with us. How cool!

Blue_Roses

(13,486 posts)
34. Great story!
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 12:45 AM
Oct 2024

I never knew he was a Rhodes Scholar and alot of the other things you mentioned! He was such a humble, sweet, talented man. He will be missed.

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