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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm in Asheville and I am stealing internet and power from Whole Foods for 30. AMA
Ill answer what I can. I can never post pics to this site so I wont bother but what you wanna know from the dirty, dirty ground here?
jimfields33
(18,328 posts)in their stores? Ive heard it and reported it but havent gotten real confirmation.
Coexist
(25,643 posts)Everyone is breaking, but Im conserving the gas I have in the car for charging and short trips to the store etc
But there were so many trees and branches down and shit just washed away its likely ☹️
jimfields33
(18,328 posts)Its awesome you are doing this for us. So many of us love the city of Asheville and are heartbroken over this.
Srkdqltr
(7,402 posts)neohippie
(1,161 posts)Since the River Arts District housed a lot of artists studios, and stores I would say very likely.
Perhaps some who had their art downtown faired better.
The Biltmore area was definitely very much underwater as well
Srkdqltr
(7,402 posts)ificandream
(10,266 posts)Coexist
(25,643 posts)There are 20 of us here plugged in. The store knows we are here - also - wtf?
yardwork
(63,612 posts)My son is in Asheville and I'm cheering all of you who are coping and enduring!
Coexist
(25,643 posts)I sure hope so!
yardwork
(63,612 posts)No power, water, food running low, but I feel that help is on the way.
Good to hear from you. Stay safe! ❤️
Cha
(303,825 posts)My sister and part of her family live in Asheville and they're safe, too. Yesterday they had to head out on the one open road to Virginia because my sister had just had surgery on her hand, because of an accident, and was running out of pain meds!
I imagine they'll be getting necessary supplies while they're there.
💙
yardwork
(63,612 posts)It's very, very sad.
Cha
(303,825 posts)there in the '70s ( my young family) and I couldn't believe the videos of the flooding and devastation.
KS Toronado
(19,089 posts)That's what communities do during disaster times!
brakester
(98 posts)esp. in times of trouble like right now. Or, anytime!
Living in the mountains here, we help each other out!
Internet is spotty here in the best of times and I thank the stores for this. We have a community center here with a public library in a very remote spot that always leaves its Internet on 24/360.
LauraInLA
(1,070 posts)that sets you off, I'm sorry.
People sometimes use loose speech and it's meant to convey informality. It's how we talk to friends.
If you don't understand the dire situation WNCarolina is in, research and ASK questions before dissing us, please.
LauraInLA
(1,070 posts)as youve seen throughout the thread, people who are unaware are concerned about the mention of stealing. I was trying to make a helpful suggestion, nothing more.
LisaM
(28,373 posts)They are funny and have a dry delivery that maybe doesn't come off on paper.
JoseBalow
(4,717 posts)questionseverything
(9,997 posts)Response to Coexist (Reply #5)
onandup This message was self-deleted by its author.
Lunabell
(6,663 posts)That was a rude and unwarranted comment from whoever that is. I hope they delete it.
BannonsLiver
(17,603 posts)PittBlue
(4,332 posts)What an awful thing to say.
B.See
(3,037 posts)the dire straits that are brought on by such disasters, until they have the occasion to experience it for themselves.
SomedayKindaLove
(949 posts)For less rainy days
marble falls
(60,923 posts)Hekate
(93,988 posts)So it sounds like a neighborly act on the stores part, not theft.
🥰
mahatmakanejeeves
(60,263 posts)he is sitting on the sidewalk outside the store, or maybe in the store, if it's open, using the store's wifi, with his charger plugged into a duplex receptacle.
Reply #30 seems to confirm my guess.
brakester
(98 posts)In the mountains here we help each other out! Esp. in times like this.
These stores leave their Internet going 24/7 as a public service.
I wonder if you post things without researching or thinking first, as a habit?
Vomiting ugly opinions is what has led to all the ill-feeling and violence in America.
Just because you think you can hide behind anonymity, doesn't make it ok.
Open up your heart and let some healing light and warmth in.
NutmegYankee
(16,295 posts)It's normal everywhere in major storms.
soandso
(725 posts)I often see things said about how people come together, to help each other, in this or that place, as though they're different form someplace else. You see it all over the world because it's part of human nature. I wish humans were always at their best as most are during disasters.
To the OP: Glad you're okay. Is your home (the structure) damaged?
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,889 posts)We had rules in my development against using grills but I was grilling up a storm. No one was really around and no condo cops complained.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)niyad
(118,671 posts)without making disappointing, ugly assumptions. I am more than a bit surprised.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)❤️
johnnyfins
(1,157 posts)Middle of a disaster.
FarPoint
(13,483 posts)For me, community compassion rules here and we know Whole Foods is a community resource.... I think you posted a bit of a mean question for a hurricane victim.... just my thoughts..
dem4decades
(11,801 posts)RubyRose
(218 posts)And internet for survivors of hurricanes.
PittBlue
(4,332 posts)These are desperate times in Asheville.
Your comment is unneeded
Cha
(303,825 posts)at a time like this?
obamanut2012
(27,666 posts)Your judgemental tone is misplaced here.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)After all, we're one of the original thirteen colonies, so we've had a long time to embrace diversity and evolve, and we're not done yet.
WNC and Asheville, in particular, have a special vibe unlike any other.
Lots of colorful language. So, not hearing words like "stick it where the sun don't shine" doesn't mean that those same words haven't crossed a mind.
I've heard tall tales and fish stories. Many long elaborate stories stretch the truth through the time-space continuum, too. But I haven't ever heard a storyteller be called out for being entertaining or generous with their gift of gab.
But optimists are seldom surprised by trouble.
The most "difficult" among us may be hard to love but may need to be shown grace so that they know what it looks like.
Not everyone is a Longfellow or an Emily Dickinson. Some of us are more like Dorothy Parker.
The gift of gab and forethought aren't parts of everyone's communication style. Some communicators don't have any style at all.
We're all DUers, though whatever our communication style, our similarities most probably out number our differences.
And of course, the real message here is that this OP was started by "coexist." Let's let that sink in.
❤️ pants
Drum
(9,582 posts)😒
redstatebluegirl
(12,447 posts)Have ever been in a natural disaster??? You survive, people who have power or food, or water share it with those who don't.
ret5hd
(21,235 posts)oooh my bingo card is almost full!
nolabear
(42,871 posts)What do you see as evidence of aid being given? Whos there? I saw a report that the death toll is much higher than officially stated. Any evidence of that?
Hang in there. Ive got people in Boone and Blowing Rock. Theyre okay but damn. I love that place. Stay strong. ❤️
Coexist
(25,643 posts)But search and rescue is still ongoing. Mudslides were bad.
Aid: water disto centers at schools for several hours a day. Henderson got power back (the road) Dominos opened and is handing out free pizzas. I heard WCK is here but I havent seen them yet
nolabear
(42,871 posts)but as you say, theres so little getting out. Hang in there.
brakester
(98 posts)such as it exists, that Boone got blasted.
My heart goes out to them!
GumboYaYa
(5,996 posts)Brunk Auctions had one of eight original copies of the Constitution up for sale soon. Do you know if they saved the copy of the Constitution?
Coexist
(25,643 posts)Thats a bit beyond my spotty coverage and it hasnt been in the news here (I dont have tv or internet or electric or water so Im getting my news via an email digest I check once a day when Im here or there is a spot at Publix
BTW - Publix has been a lifesaver. For real. People here didnt plan for this. They had no water aside, no gas in their cars, and no food stores. So Publix having a generator for their entire store was a godsend to them. The line to get in was 3 hours long on Saturday. Their poor employees are looking exhausted but in good spirits.
GumboYaYa
(5,996 posts)I can appreciate how hard life is for you right now. When we found ourselves in a post storm situation it was always my goal to make one thing better each day. You will get through it and will have normalcy at some point.
Coexist
(25,643 posts)Got a text from Duke - I will Have power by noon on Friday
GumboYaYa
(5,996 posts)After Andrew, some neighborhoods near us went 3-4 weeks with no power. From what we see from the outside it looks like they are attacking the problems aggressively. Is tat what you see on the ground?
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)Different states and Canada working around the clock to restore power. Friday sounds excellent!
Great job!!
LeftInTX
(29,509 posts)Once Helene turned into "extratropical", it's harder to predict what it was gonna do and where it was gonna go etc. Everyone knew there would be flash floods, but assume the inconveniences would last a day or so etc.
They had the low going to TN, but instead it went to WNC.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,889 posts)During hurricane season (June-Nov) way ahead of any hurricane you never have less than 3/4s of your gas tank filled you always have at least 5 gallons of water on hand, you have a ton of tuna fish, peanut butter and protein bars on hand, you have about 6-7 mini lanterns on hand, with a ton of batteries, portable radio. When I had a landline, I had a princess phone that you could plug into a phone outlet that might work when you are out of power if phone service was up. You always have a decent amount of cash on hand. You need to know of a place that you can move your car to that is on higher ground. Everything will be gone from the stores if you wait until the last minute to get your supplies so start buying your stuff early. I also try to eat everything out of my freezer. You have all those supplies where you can find them in your house. There will be more and more hurricanes in the usual spots and now in all areas of the south. You might want to have a fan that operates with batteries. If you are near the shore, on an island, in low lying ground or have big trees that might fall on your house, you will need to move into a shelter or if you have the money., go to another area a few hour away from where the eye will hit and get a motel/hotel there and pray the hurricane doesnt tilt and hit you there. The restaurants or stores near hospitals will open first so go there if you need to. Have several coolers and frozen ice packs and pray that you can find ice somewhere. Also, have a portable grill.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)Clean your bathtub well, fill it with water you can boil to cook with or even drink if you run out.
I usually don't evacuate. But I live on high ground and have animals. Plus, I've heard too many stories of folks who had a terrible time trying to get home.
Thanks so much for sharing this!
❤️
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)malaise
(276,604 posts)Coexist
(25,643 posts)The Caribbean for 2. I over prepared for the storm and my home survived just fine. A few roof shingles gone and many trees over
malaise
(276,604 posts)So glad your home survived it all . This one was really bad.
Solly Mack
(92,118 posts)hlthe2b
(105,627 posts)As one who just went through our massive wildfires a few weeks ago, I cannot stress the need for that. Well-meaning people who had never been around horses out there trying to load a horse trailer or who'd never hiked our mountains taking off on foot trying to check for survivors who failed to evacuate (and that's the "short of it..." )
This too shall pass, but until then take it one day at a time. Things will get better..
GAdem2016
(43 posts)We love Asheville so much. My parents spent their honeymoon at Grove Park 65 years ago (less than $30/night, including breakfast!!). We live in Athens GA and enjoy visiting Asheville 1-2x/year. So many favorite places. Heartbroken about Chimney Rock. We're sending positive vibes to all the wonderful people there and we'll be back when the time comes!
Coexist
(25,643 posts)I hope the Grove is ok. That place is so beautiful and historic. Im sure I would Ive heard if its a loss. Its made out of boulders, so it should be?
GAdem2016
(43 posts)If memory serves, the wings on either side are newer additions (my dad doesn't like them, lol). Different parts may have fared differently. However, it's all pretty high up, so that's a good sign.
Some of our favorite Asheville places include Pie.ZAA, Chai Pani, and Woolworth Walk. We also love wandering around the River Arts district. We've bought several pieces there, and they have some great coffee shops. I heard River Arts is under water.
Scrivener7
(52,245 posts)Coexist
(25,643 posts)Coexist
(25,643 posts)Stay strong!
Scrivener7
(52,245 posts)littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)Hekate
(93,988 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(176,608 posts)blogslug
(38,528 posts)May all go better than expected
niyad
(118,671 posts)So glad you are able to check in, even if only briefly. Please take good care of yourself, and check in when you can.
LoisB
(8,301 posts)safe now remains so. I don't think pictures can fully portray the devastation on the ground.
Lochloosa
(16,369 posts)LittleGirl
(8,365 posts)Wow 😵
sheshe2
(86,544 posts)My heart goes out to all of you in these times. It sounds like you have a great community that is pulling together to help one another.
AllaN01Bear
(22,659 posts)LilElf70
(324 posts)He has a daughter that lives in Ashville. She lost everything. The town is a total disaster, from what I hear.
Post your image to one of your other s/m sites, then click on it and do "copy url", you can post that on d/u and it will generate your image. I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but this is the one I figured out, after it took way to long to figure SOMETHING out. fyi.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,571 posts)Think. Again.
(16,537 posts)duncang
(3,125 posts)One of our favorite places to go. Also our most visited vacation spots going there was great. We even talked about moving there. I love the area and people. Hoping for a speedy recovery for you and the area. Stay safe and take care.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,889 posts)Just hope they dont end up sending you a bill!
Warpy
(112,988 posts)Please tell people who are collecting supplies like shampoo, diapers, toothpaste and other comfort items to buy them before they leave their own areas, DO NOT strip the shelves of the local Sam's Club or visit multiple groceries to make a quota.
People who live there and are unable to travel are going to need things that are in local shops.
ALSO, before you go on that shopping spree and leave, call the local shelter/local authorities and verify what items are needed instead of going in half blind, half cocked and half assed.
Yeah, I know this seems harsh but trust me, it isn't. It doesn't do to give someone in a disaster area a bag of shampoo and towlettes when what they really need is a tarp and a couple of rolls of duck tape.
This is why disaster relief often sounds crass as they request cash donations instead of STUFF. It's the only way decisions can be made on short notice and one family at a time, so they get that tarp and duck tape.
(No, this isn't aimed at you, it's aimed at people who don't think and don't ask)
2naSalit
(91,457 posts)Glad you're okay for now. I hope that relief comes in quickly and everyone is found. I've worked recovery and relief before, it's a hard task.
Sending lots of good juju to you and everyone in your area.
Baitball Blogger
(47,615 posts)Sorry about what you're all going through.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)Doing surveys on the spot also registering missing persons and counting people as accounted for but there are still rescues going on. Most of them by helicopter. Many are cut off either with washed out roads or roads blocked by trees and mudflow.
If you got a number it's going to be different shortly after. They are updated frequently but deceased persons aren't officially counted until the next of kin are notified. The real number of casualties may never be known because some people were trapped in entire houses that were demolished with them inside going down the rivers in mudflows.
I learned this watching news conferences by Governor Cooper and other officials both state and federal.
❤️
Baitball Blogger
(47,615 posts)Thank you for responding.
littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)Devastating was another. One of the emergency services speaker's voice cracked and he had to take a moment when he was trying to give his report. I think he was from ncdps which is public safety.
The mountains are still moving. The mudslides are ongoing. It's indescribably horrible. Two EMS workers were killed trying to rescue someone when a tree fell on their truck. I won't say anything more.
If you can, give blood to the Red Cross
They need to replace the supply of blood from what they transferred to WNC. The supply was low before the storm.
Take care of yourself, Baitball Blogger.
❤️🙏
LeftInTX
(29,509 posts)littlemissmartypants
(24,632 posts)I hope that everyone is getting the emotional support that they need.
Although it might not be exactly for the same reasons, whether working for an agency or as an affected resident, no one walks into and out of any disaster without some level of trauma.
I hope they have the mental health professionals that they need for both groups. Especially, for the children.
Please thank her on my behalf. Thank you.
❤️🙏
ancianita
(37,946 posts)jls4561
(1,425 posts)My mommas people are from Asheville and the surrounding area. I spent a lot of time up there when I was young. I still have a ton and a half of cousins there. I have sent texts asking if they are OK, but told them just get back to me when you can.
One thing you can help me with if you would be so kind. I wanted to donate to flood relief, but am not sure to whom to send it. I went with Red Cross and World Central Kitchen, on the assumption that even if the money will not go directly to Buncombe , will be put to good use.
Asheville Citizen Times was no help-they had a bunch of Babtist churches and Im still mad at them. I have met many good people in the Babtist churches but the leadership should read more of
Jesuss teachings and less of Pauls. Dont even get me started on Franklin Graham.
Anyway, do you know of any organization that is helping people directly? Im would also like to donate to an animal shelter thats local.
Your help is greatly appreciated. Please forgive me if you or your family are Babtist. Yes, thats deliberately misspelled.
littlemissmartypants
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jls4561
(1,425 posts)Thanks for the suggestion.
Lunabell
(6,663 posts)I hope all of your family and pets are accounted for!!!
SheltieLover
(58,997 posts)Electrical crew trucks, Cable repair trucks, etc. are about all that is traveling west bound. They are staging in or near Old Fort while they are awaiting their permits to enter and begin work.
Good vibes on the way to all in that region! I lived in Asheville for a few years and am broken hearted at the devastation I've seen and read about.
malaise
(276,604 posts)Just trying to offer hope to those in need.