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demmiblue

(37,871 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:10 PM Oct 5

The female soldiers who predicted Oct. 7 say they are still being silenced

The Israeli field observers who monitor the country’s embattled borders say they are ignored by their commanders, as they were before Hamas attacked.

KIRYAT TIVON, northern Israel — For the past year, Israeli soldiers stationed atop a windswept mountain abutting the border with Lebanon have watched the enemy deploy men and missiles.

The members of this female-only army unit, known as field observers, have tracked Hezbollah fighters as they drove through narrow alleyways and green valleys, setting and resetting launchers, approaching the border fence and pulling back. The observers, most between 18 and 20 years old, have been responsible for identifying and reporting many of the 10,000 drones, mortar rounds, rockets and antitank missiles that have streaked across Israel’s northern skies since October.

They are the eyes of the military along Israel’s embattled borders, monitoring multiple screens around-the-clock to supply reconnaissance that guides forces on the ground. They flag changes in routines of the men they observe and investigate intelligence alerts sent from above.

But a year after the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attack, these young women say Israel is still not doing enough to reckon with the kind of threats that exploded across its southern frontier on that awful morning, when gunmen streamed across the border from the Gaza Strip. Field observers near Gaza were among the first to sound the alarm about Hamas’s preparations for a large-scale attack, and among the first to be killed and kidnapped during what turned out to be the deadliest day — and largest intelligence failure — in Israel’s history.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/04/israel-female-field-observers-october-7-attacks-hamas-gaza/
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brush

(58,012 posts)
1. Hmmmm? And there's still no explanation why it took several hours to deploy the IDF against the terrorists.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 05:50 PM
Oct 5

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elias7

(4,203 posts)
3. First, it was a holiday - Simchat Torah.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 10:59 PM
Oct 5

Second, since Hamas had not been as aggressively bombing Israel as other terror groups and as Netanyahu was trying to keep some appeasement by passing Qatarian money to Gaza, the eyes were more on the north towards the Lebanese border rather than the Gazan border. Third, there was the issue mentioned in the OP, where the spotters, apparently a number of female ones were not initially believed that fighters were Invading the state of Israel, contributing to a delay. Still, I think a lot of Israelis have questions.

I think it is unfairly speculative and conspiratorial to imply LIHOP as many pro-Palestinian people have done.

brush

(58,012 posts)
4. It was a holiday? You're kidding, right? That's no excuse.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:57 AM
Oct 6

Why even bother writing that? Like everything shuts down on a holiday. Sure hope our military doesn't shut down on Haloween coming up.

elias7

(4,203 posts)
5. First, Halloween is not a holiday. Simchat Torah is a sacred celebration of singing and communing with the torah
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 07:59 AM
Oct 6

Second, you’re right the Jews should’ve known better than to celebrate a holiday, since 50 years prior, they were attacked on Yom Kippur.

Why even bother writing that? Because most people were in synagogue and not typically using electronics/cell phones during Shabbat and holidays. You seem very cynical for people who were attacked by terrorists on a holy day.

Tell me, do you think that Netanyahu purposefully let it happen on purpose? Are you one of those?

brush

(58,012 posts)
6. Please stop with the excuses. No country's military should take holidays off.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 08:06 AM
Oct 6

Try a better excuse.

And Israel can do better. It should relieve warmonger Netanyaho from duty, sit down for peace negotiations to get the hostages released and substantive and sustained talks for a path to a two-state solution.

The path the warmonger is on will just result in another 75 years of war.

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