Trying to do what I'm able to!

Not worth a second of your time

It’s all bullshit coming out of her mouth.

thank you SheltieLover for helping her to see the truth. It's up her now.

Could be. Thanks for weighing in.

How are you doing up there in the hills?

We're fine - with electricity, we are back to normal, but it doesn't feel like it - the extreme damage is not far from us - every short drive shows another small tragedy. My wife and I are kind of in shock a bit.

The MAGA spread lies and distortions about FEMA aid and Democrats is making us boil. What absolute shits of human beings.

I'm in shock as well. I lived in Asheville for about 4 yrs. Just heartbreaking.

Her text could have come from a staged Frank Luntz interview.

You are getting gaslighted by some pain in the ass.

Could be. I'm not disputing what you're saying, but she seemed to sincerely want to know.

even MORE than most other Vice Presidents over that four years.... I can only presume because she is a woman, and AA on top of that...



Hell, even I was unsure about the proper pronunciation of her name before this campaign started,
because so few talked about her in the news, and some of them were probably saying it wrong...


However, for god's sake, she ought to know enough about TRUMP by now to make this decision easy.
As the saying now goes, when the undecided voter is offered a choice
between chicken and a bowl of raw sewage, why do they ask
'how is the chicken cooked?'

What is with 'on a personal basis', like she expects to get invited to lunch with the VP or some such BS?

I'm not sure exactly what she meant.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around indecision. I was reared to be a strong Democrat, so even the thought of voting for any R is nauseating, but this time... WOW!

Yet, she seemed to sincerely want to know more about Kamala.

Thanks for weighing in.

Don't waste your time with her. Like I said, she's full of it.

Thanks for weighing in.

that she watch Kamala at work as a Senator, questioning Bill Barr and Brent Kavanaugh….

TY for sharing.

Or maybe she really doesn’t like drumpf but is a hard core Republican and will just never vote for a Democratic candidate.
Because, really?

But she sincerely wanted to know more about Kamala as "the person," vs "the politician."

Thanks for weighing in.

Her way of deflecting

I didn’t mean to make it so declarative and meant it more as a strong supposition. Anyway I do hope she finds the answer to her hesitation. Thank you for being open enough to provide information for her.

Honesty is a rare thing.

Sort of. Not close with her, but she seemed sincere.

The face she made when I mentioned rump was priceless. And she stated she doesn't like him at all, but wants to vote FOR something, not just against rump. (The latter is enough for me. LOL)

Thanks for weighing in.

Have this woman watch that.

I'll pass that along to her.

Sorry you wasted your time on that bunghole...

The face she made when I mentioned rump as an alternative, followed by saying "I really don't like him, Yuck. But I want to vote FOR something, not just against him."

Thanks for weighing in.

But she gave you so many "Yes, but; yes, but; yes, but" that all I could think of was calculated insincerity.

I'll take your comment under advisement.

then WTH is her problem? Does she really think that there is something about Harris that might be even worse than a felon, rapist, insurrectionist?

I don't get these people who know what scum Trump is but say that they still need to know Harris better. Seems to me that the contrast between the candidates is so strong that the ones who say they don't really know Harris are just saying that as an excuse to vote for Trump. Or, they are Trumpists through and through and are trying to sow seeds of doubt about Harris to people who support Harris/Walz.

I'd probably have said to her, "Well you've got two choices, Trump the criminal who wants to be dictator and Harris, the prosecutor, Senator, and VP. Would you really choose the criminal, dictator wannabe?"

If she answered that she might choose a 3rd party candidate, or just not vote, I'd tell her that not voting, or choosing 3rd party would be throwing the election in Trump's favor.

This woman could find out Harris' background easily enough by looking her up on Wikipedia or Googling her name along with the word "biography."

Thank you for weighing in.

I pretty much told her just that: that not voting or voting for a 3rd party is THE SAME as voting for weirdo and beardo.

Sigh...

I suspect that people who say they need to know more about Harris are probably Trumpists trying to sow doubt among Harris/Walz supporters. I don't buy the idea that they need to know Harris before deciding whom to vote for. The contrast between the candidates is so great that it's a no brainer decision for Harris unless they are Trumpists.

I roll with my gut feelings and nearly vomited the first time I saw tfg on tv years ago. Sickening. Same with beardo, bannon, ghouliani, et al.

Thanks for weighing in.

long before he got into politics.

as if she is just looking for an excuse not to vote for her.

wonderful things about her.

“Just a few of Harris's many hobbies growing up, according to her Vogue profile: singing in an Oakland, Calif. church choir, joining civil rights marches, mastering Indian cooking, cleaning test tubes in her mother's (a cancer researcher's) lab and knitting while watching cartoons (the only way she was permitted to watch TV). “I have no idea how many blankets Kamala must have crocheted,” Harris's sister, Maya, told Vogue. “She was the mad crocheter.””

“Why does Harris list "Momala" on her Twitter bio? It's what her two stepchildren, the kids of her husband, attorney Doug Emhoff, call her because, as she wrote in her book, The Truths We Hold: An American Journey, they weren't keen on the title of "stepmom."”

https://www.vogue.com/article/2020-women-candidates-quirky-hobbies-intellect-too

“In Montreal, a 13-year-old Harris and her younger sister, Maya, led a successful demonstration in front of their apartment building in protest of a policy that banned children from playing on the lawn.”
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/11/kamala-harris-vp-background-bio-biden-running-mate-2020-393885

“13. She likes to cook. Ms. Harris loves food. She has ribbed her running mate, Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, about his “white guy tacos,” shared her turkey cooking tips and said that she liked to read recipes to unwind. In 2019 Ms. Harris posted a series of cooking videos to YouTube, including one with the actor Mindy Kaling that has been watched more than six million times. “Senator Harris, I say this with respect, you’re kind of a show-off,” Ms. Kaling quipped. “Right?” Ms. Harris replied.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/elections/kamala-harris-facts.html

Just a few I could find. Hope this helps.

THis is the type of info I think that woman is looking for! I very much appreciate you sharing all of this!

Here's one:

TY so much!!!

acquaintances that you're inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt, and in turn, she was trying not to show that her mind had already been made up.

In short, yes, cordial and genuinely receptive though she may have seemed to be, you were wasting your time.

What she was looking for was an excuse not to vote for Harris.

both on personal and a professional level.

When you offered information, she just kept asking the question.

And yet, it's been all over the news for months now.

Your kindheartedness and persistence are admirable, but it
looks like a bottomless well of indecision on her part.

TYVM for sharing the link! Most helpful!

I will share it with her and what she does with it will be up to her.

So it’s worth a try with anyone.

I've taken the few helpful websites and typed info, put it into a document and will email to her in hopes she will be able to see that Kamala is a real person, unlike weirdo and beardo!

TY!

Great job turning an R!

I did get him to vote for Biden over Trump instead of leaving it blank or voting third party (he was one of the idiots, though not in a swing state, that voted for Johnson instead of Hillary or Trump and honestly had no idea who Johnson even was).

Since we live in a deep Blue State it will not matter.

We had a few friends stay with us that also tried to convince him subtly to vote for Harris, but so far no luck.

I'm sorry you hav to put up with that.

Here's to trying!

Kamala Harris has been a highly public official her entire career.

I only posted to get help to find something to send to her trying to convince her. If she lived in a solid Blue state, frankly, I wouldn't bother.

We all need to try to bring voters into the light.

However, in my humble opinion, it sounds like she's already made up her mind (too embarrassed to admit her love for cheeto?) and nothing Kamala does or says will convince her to vote for her.

I wish I could describe the look on her face when I mentioned rump as the other (non-viable!) "option."

As my dad would've said, she looked like she was smelling shit on her upper lip. LOL

I am grateful to the few folks here who provided links, one to an article, one to Kamala's cooking show, and another to a "get to know Kamala" from her website. I hadn't thought of any of these because there was never a question in my mind. LOL

Thanks for weighing in!

And your grandson’s hot lunch program

Both of which, the repubs would take away

She just kept saying she doesn't just want to vote against the turd, she wants reasons to vote FOR Harris.

Thanks for weighing in!

and hanging out with podcasters .

Thank you for weighing in & thanks to those who offered ideas!

. . . will be perceived through a lens of "just more fluff."

It is a right wing talking point being hammered on FOX and by people like Victoria Churchill, the so-called "swing-state reporter" at NY Post.

If she is actually interested in something from an objective source:

The Choice 2024: Harris vs. Trump
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/the-choice-2024-harris-vs-trump/

Much appreciated.

It’s not hard to find information these days.

Let us know if you try any of the ideas from this thread.

THANKS for your efforts.

The answer to all of them is there is no one in the history of the United States who is a worse option than the CONvicted felon.
Creepy is kind.

...just the opposite.

Tell her that vote of hers which either supports the candidate against Trump, or votes for him is HER own responsibility, not Kamala Harris'.

Thx for weighing in!

Tear Jerker:
https://m.

I really appreciate you taking the time & making the effort to provide these excellent links & to write out your feelings.

Great point about being assured Kamala will always present professionally & never say things kids should never hear!

in their living room and share tea and cookies for a couple of hours of "get to know you" time.

who she wants to vote for at this point. She's either staying home or voting tRump. I think a lot of people like her will leave the top of the ticket blank or not vote at all.

Better yet, steer her to the Audible version read by her. I'm enjoying her in her own voice. Sort of an Autobiography so far, really tells a lot about her journey. I couldn't imagine how a Trump autobiography would read, except it would be all bullshit, and entirely ghost written.

Kinda surprised nobody else has recommended Kamala's book in the thread so far

Thank you very much!

Not sure if this person is confused or maybe just looking for excuses to politely tell you she is a MAGAT fascist.

Knowing what she is made of means she wants to see examples of Kamala in action, under fire. Look at her prosecutorial work as AG to bring an end to MS13 activity in CA. Her support for The First Step Act, Medicare for All, and the Green New Deal in her time as a Senator. Her excellent work on a variety of tasks as VP, including negotiating Ukraine's defensive plan, stemming the flow of unsafe immigration from Central America, and a strong focus on equity and justice in all her actions even when it makes the MAGATS wail. She was also the deciding vote in the Inflation Reduction Act.

"Her answer was that she hates rump, but she wants to know more about Kamala on a personal level."

How about her time in the exclusive Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority? Her many great recipes and cooking tips? Her humble middle class background? She's a fun woman who lives to laugh and lead. There's nothing that's not to like.

It's such a no brainer for me I was left almost speechless.

TY!

She may "hate trump" but that ".. Fluff interview.." she mentioned is definitely a RW talking point. Whether she knows it or not

The magats try to Tear Away at Kamals's Strengths. Sure she was Trusted and voted in to all those offices, each getting higher and higher... but her interviews are "fluff".. no they're not...

".. the media treats her like a woman"... wow imagine that.. she is! This person should see the Tweets we did with VP Harris going into a Military base.. she was totally at home and belonged there.

Here's a recent Tweet...

Link to tweet

I told her to call and write to whichever media she is watching and complain that they are only airing tfg. Tell them to get with the fucking program and cover Kamala and HER campaign and agenda!

the latest on what TSF is up to.

Will he ever Fuck Off?!

I'll certainly share it.

point blank what she wants to know about her? What she means by personal level? What specific concerns she has?

I think she doesn't want to vote for Trump but is having a hard time voting for a woman of color.

One thing people who study these sorts of things have found is that people's rating of women can be high when they are in a position of power but drop the minute a woman actively seeks a position of power (even one she already has - like reelection). It is like it is OK for a woman to have power but not to want it. Maybe that's part of what's going on.

because the parameters don't immediately make sense.

She wants an understanding of Harris on a personal level but thinks the interviews she has had are "fluff" so it is hard to discern what would be considered to add value.

They want to "vote for something" but are not particularly moved by policy distinctions.

It just seems like a snipe hunt to me but maybe there is something beyond vapor to waste time flailing at with the right questions and answers.

She may not "like" Trump, but I bet she votes for him anyway. Lying, racist asshole "undecided", "I don't know Kamala personally", "I don't know anything about her policies" bullshit.

Everything about Kamala Harris is out there. She's hiding nothing. If people can't read about it, then they're just Trump voters who are too ashamed to admit it, afraid they'll be laughed at. Especially women. Especially people of color. There's no way anyone of either group with any sense believes the Republicans care about them in any positive way.