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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTim Walz is appearing on Fox News tomorrow for an interview
Just saw the notice for it....https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4917901-tim-walz-joins-fox-news/
I don't know Shannon Bream as I never watch that channel but I will force myself to watch tomorrow just to see how it goes.. He's brave for taking on FoxNews. He's also going to be on Jimmy Kimmel Monday night.
dem4decades
(11,972 posts)Coexist
(26,202 posts)I was very worried about the debate, but I am not worried about a fox interview - I think Sec Buttegieg prepared him for this
Cha
(305,823 posts)Vultures den is he?
Good on Tim. He can handle 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)sheshe2
(88,091 posts)They should become more active??? WTH?
Harris has done far fewer rallies the last month than previous campaigns have done at this point in the election (on both sides). I'd like to see her ramp up her appearances.
To put everything into perspective, here was Obama's campaign stops in 2012:
https://www.p2012.org/obama/obamacal1012.html
I expect she'll pick up the pace and have multiple rallies every day instead of only like two or three rallies a week like we've seen.
sheshe2
(88,091 posts)Biden stepped aside on July 21. You can't begin to compare her campaign to Obama's.
She has built her campaign, staff and opened offices from scratch, selected the best VP ever and has been on the road since that time. All this in two MONTHS! On top of that, I am sure you have heard the news that there is a humanitarian crisis in States destroyed from the Hurricane and she is spending time there as well.
JHC!
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,049 posts)Kamala inherited Bidens campaign, staff, and offices that were already in place for the BIDEN/HARRIS campaign.
Harris has done a phenomenal job on many things and she was vastly underestimated. She was most likely dimming her light because a VP is not supposed to outshine the President. Oprah mentioned in the town hall that she seemed to come into her own when she took center stage.
The one thing she hasnt done is MSM interviews. Now that Tim Walz is making the rounds with the media perhaps Kamala will do more interviews as well.
sheshe2
(88,091 posts)With President Joe Biden and Harris, his vice president, seeking a second term together, Democrats werent supposed to have a veep search at all. But as soon as the 81-year-old president ended his campaign and endorsed Harris, it was go time. And there was no playbook for the newly elevated candidate and a vetting team that in a normal campaign would have months, not days, to make such a critical decision.
What followed was a 16-day blitz on parallel tracks. There was the behind-the-scenes action: Harris lieutenants furiously researching contenders, the vice president debating options with top aides and confidants, and, finally, a weekend of interviews with finalists. And there was the public campaign: Contenders found every cable news camera, stumped in battleground states for the prospective boss, tried out attack lines on Republican nominee Donald Trump and his understudy, Ohio Sen. JD Vance all while rival factions made their pitches and wielded their knives.
The whole thing was made more intense and conspicuous given the time constraints, highlighting the breadth of Democrats bench and, at the same time, the fragility of the party unity that defined Harris nascent White House bid. By the end, the process offered a preview of how Harris might fare under the pressures of the Oval Office, quickly working through options, with minimal leaks from her team and a result that, at least initially, has drawn plaudits from a party that seems intent on one undisputed goal: defeating Trump and Vance in November.
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-picks-tim-walz-running-mate-a64a91ae84953e880c8d086316d07c54
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)She did not build her staff from scratch. She took over Biden's operation, which was fully fleshed out. Most everyone who was on Biden's reelection team remained and so did all the offices that had been opened over the last year-plus.
I would hope that Harris is on the campaign trail literally every day between now and election day. If not her - her vice presidential nominee.
We can't slow roll through October in a close race. No excuses.
sheshe2
(88,091 posts)I don't understand your issues with her and Walz. They have been everywhere with huge crowds attending rallies.
I don't get it. SMH.
Done here.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)Not sure why you're posting an article about the vetting process of Walz, which wasn't even mentioned in your original message, to support your claim that she had to start an entire campaign from scratch (which is not mentioned in your article at all).
You said:
That is not true.
Most of the campaign staff was with the Biden-Harris campaign. They already had hundreds of offices opened up. The money Biden had raised prior to dropping out also went to her. The whole campaign infrastructure remained largely unchanged between Biden dropping out and Harris entering into the race. Certainly not from scratch.
I never realized Walz was not a huge part of the team.
Nice chatting with ya.
Buh bye.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)Remember: I only responded to your claim that Harris had to start a campaign from scratch - including hiring everyone and opening all their local field offices. That's it. None of what you said in that response was true, though. She didn't start the campaign from scratch and really does a disservice to the operation Biden had built since announcing he was going to run for reelection.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Most campaigns plan them months in advance. Harris has had only 8 or 9 weeks.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)I promise you, presidential campaigns are not planning out their October rally schedule in July because the nature of the race is so fluid that boxing yourself into holding a rally that far out upends the race entirely. States you maybe thought were competitive in July, might not be competitive in October - and states you wrote off in July? Well they might actually be competitive in October.
No campaign is planning out their rallies months in advance. It doesn't happen that way. In fact, once you get to October, it goes by week - as in the campaign will plot out its schedule for next week probably some time THIS week. Certainly they weren't planning it out months ago.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)While some flexibility is always necessary, most rallies are planned in advance. Rallies are very complex operations, they are not just thrown together on the fly.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)They are not planning rallies months in advance. At this stage in the game, it's weeks - if not days.
Hell, the best example is when Biden dropped out and Harris held a rally in Atlanta on July 30th - only nine days after Biden dropped out. They didn't have that rally planned months in advance.
In no world are campaigns planning their rallies for October months in advance. It's just not true. Every rally Harris holds from now on will have been scheduled within the month of October.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Doesnt mean there arent exceptions. Campaigns do need to be flexible. But in general rallies need a lot of advance work. Venues need to be secured. Volunteers need to be engaged. Speakers lined up. These things are not typically done in a few days. It is simplistic to think it can be.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)It's that simple. Yes, at this stage in the game, rallies are planned just mere days in advance.
Harris will not have a schedule built out multiple-weeks in advance at this point. The campaign is too fluid for there to be a commitment to holding a rally, say, three weeks from now. It just isn't happening.
Harris' recent rally in Flint, Michigan, was scheduled just three days out.
So, yes, these things - especially at this stage in the race - are typically done in a few days.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Doesnt mean that some cant be planned quickly. The Harris campaign has done an extraordinary job in planning out as many as they have in this compressed campaign schedule. But to compare the Harris campaign to the schedule of the 2012 Obama campaign which was up and running for over a year is completely unfair.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)Doesn't happen.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Because she wasnt a candidate until late July. And her campaign has done an extraordinary job in planning the ones that they have. But it is unfair to compare the Harris campaign which is barely two months old to the 2012 Obama campaign which was running over a year at this point in the cycle.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)I'd agree back in August and even September but we're into October and it's game-time. She has more money on hand now than Obama did at this point in 2012. The infrastructure of her campaign is not preventing her from holding rallies all over the country. That's a decision her campaign has made right now and I am hopeful they'll start barnstorming swing states n the coming days because we gotta leave everything on the field for this.
Trump isn't summer Trump where he barely campaigned. He's out there daily now holding rallies. I believe she has to match him and I think she will. I think the campaign realizes it's the stretch run and will start to work on her visibility, which explains all the media appearances we're seeing from her now compared to a month ago.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)to compare a campaign that is only been running for a few months to one that was running for over a year at the same point. Campaigns and the planning and advance work that needs to be done is far more complex than you think they are. The Harris campaign has done an extraordinary job in pulling off everything theyve done, from the convention, vetting a VP and multiple events, in the short time that theyve had. These things are just not willed into existence. They need proper planning and advance work to be done properly. And dont deserve unfair criticism.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)The candidate entered but the campaign she took over has been well established now for nearly two years. You're making it out to be that the Harris campaign essentially started from scratch. That isn't true. The Harris campaign is the Biden campaign. The staff remained. The money remained. The field offices remained. Everything carried over from Biden dropping out to Harris takin up the mantle. It's not unfair.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)a lot of the Biden campaign infrastructure which is probably why they have been able to do the great job that they have. But it is still a new campaign with new candidates, new opportunities and new priorities. They just cant give Harris a Biden speech or drop her into a Biden photo op. So it is unfair.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)I love the interviews with Stern and The View and I think Walz is going on Dan Le Batard - but I also want to see more rallies. I think that's one area Biden was handicapped last time: very limited rallies due to COVID. It does create energy unlike anything you can really get from an interview or a press conference.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)There is a lot more to a presidential campaign than just holding a bunch of rallies. Rallies are great to fire up the base, but they really dont convince many undecided voters. Harris has a good campaign team. We should trust them to do the right things.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)In fact, the Biden campaign saw the dire warnings of their lack of rallies in September, 2020 - they were losing ground to Trump in the turnout game because he was running around the country holding rallies and it was helping him get new voters registered and more voters enthused. So, they went back on their decision to not hold rallies and started holding drive-in rallies multiple all over the country.
Harris has not held many rallies over the last few weeks. And the last thing I want is for election day to get here and we lose because we didn't leave it all out on the battle field.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)But they are only part of a successful campaign. Harris has a lot of smart people like David Plouffe working on her campaign. I'm not about to second guess them.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)It's why every election season, the candidates up their rallies once October rolls around.
Just look at Obama's schedule from 2012:
In September, he went 11 days in that month without holding a rally - not including the convention (I'll consider that a rally).
In October? Just six days without a rally.
In 2016, Hillary went 20 days without a rally in September (really low total too).
In October? Just ten or so days without a rally.
Rallies are vital at this stage. Like, I would expect in two weeks that Harris is holding a rally nearly every day. If she's not, I will be very concerned.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Different candidate, different opponent, different issues and challenges. Trust that the smart and experienced people working on the Harris campaign know what they are doing. Ive worked in a few campaigns but never ran one. I wouldnt presume to know better than any of them.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)If he wasn't up to the task, she should have bowed out. We can't afford to play it safe. These excuses ring hollow. It's October. She has the most money of any candidate in history on hand. We need her out there every single day. Fortunately, I expect she'll hit the campaign trail hard these next few weeks.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)A successful campaign is not just about having rallies. Rallies are great to excite the base but dont really help much in persuading undecideds and swing voters. Rallies just preach to the converted, thats playing it safe. Trust that those running the Harris campaign know what they are doing.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)She's held one this month. That's it. That number will need to increase. She can't be holding one rally per week from here on out or she will lose.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Shes reaching more people by doing interviews this week. Millions more than by having rallies. There are various strategies and tactics in a campaign. Trust that the people running her campaign, know what they are doing.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)If rallies weren't important, candidates wouldn't do them and instead spend all their time doing TV shows, radio interviews and podcasts.
Trump spent all summer doing that and lost significant ground that he's now trying to make up via rallies.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)but a presidential campaign is more than just doing a bunch of rallies. And I trust that Harris and those running her campaign know what they are doing.
As far as Trump, hes doing far fewer rallies this year than he did in the past. https://www.axios.com/2024/09/22/trump-2024-rallies-schedule
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)That's the point. If Trump was only doing five rallies a month, I wouldn't be as concerned. But that isn't the case. He's held multiple rallies already this month and we're barely into October.
But your link points out an area where Harris IS vulnerable:
Harris' biggest polling issue, if you believe polls, is that people don't know what she stands for. Those interviews help - but so do big rallies. They create energy and buzz and she can't be doing one a week or she won't win. It's that simple.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)because they are just full of people who are already going to vote for him, cheering at every stupid thing he says. They are just to feed his ego.
This election will be won by appealing to undecided voters and there are better ways to persuade them than rallies. I trust Harris and her campaign to make the right decisions to win the election and am not going to second guess them, especially since I have never run a presidential campaign.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)She absolutely needs to ramp up her rally schedule and I believe she will despite what some here think.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)I dont know what the Harris campaign will do in the future. But I trust they know what they are doing and dont presume to criticize their decisions. If they have more rallies, great. I trust that is the correct thing to do. If they dont, I trust that too.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)Campaigns can make mistakes. I hope Harris' doesn't. But defaulting to the idea that they'll do the right thing means little if the right thing in their eyes is actually wrong.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Ive never run a national presidential campaign, so forgive me for trusting professionals who done so before and won. Just curious, how many have you run and won?
Maybe you should contact the Harris campaign and let them know what they are doing wrong? Heres the link: https://kamalaharris.com/contact-us/
Let us know their response.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)I work with my local party and every Monday we have a conference call with the campaign on the state of the race. I've said I'd like to see more rallies - and they say they're coming. I trust they are. Remember, this whole conversation started because I said I was glad they were becoming more active.
That's it. That's all I said. I was told they didn't need to hold rallies by some here. I've explained that they need to and that one rally a week isn't going to cut it.
That's all. And I think the campaign agrees with me, which is why they're likely to hold more rallies in the final weeks of the campaign - just like every other presidential campaign before them.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,042 posts)Good for you!
Phoenix61
(17,721 posts)Large venues cant be booked at the last minute. Do you seriously think a 2,000 person rally will change the outcome of the election? I can think of way better ways for Kamala to spend her time.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)I said it in another post: Harris hasn't just figured out the winning formula when it comes to presidential elections. It's pretty clear what is and isn't effective and if rallies weren't, candidates wouldn't waste their time on them. Yet we know that isn't the case. Obama held multiple rallies a day once he got to the final stretch of the campaign - some even in different states.
In 2020, the Biden campaign stopped holding rallies due to COVID and had planned to not do ANY rallies and instead focus on 1:1 interviews to get their message out. But Trump began holding rallies again and the campaign saw the impact they were having motivating voters in swing states and registering new voters. Concerned about the trajectory of the race, Biden's team made an abrupt change and started holding outdoor rallies. They adjusted, as they were drive-in rallies but they were essentially the same thing and it helped stave off potential disaster, especially with how close the race was.
But you'd be surprised how many inactive voters go to rallies, either out of curiosity or because someone cool is there (like, idk maybe someone performing or getting to hear Obama). Those voters are then encouraged to vote, maybe even register if the deadline hasn't passed - or even better, they lock in their vote by voting early.
It's a very effective strategy and why campaigns always ramp up the amount of rallies in the final weeks. If it didn't work, successful campaigns wouldn't still be doing it - and yet they are.
Beyond that, it's a much more centralized message than going on Colbert. That helps too but it's not swing-state focused.
Harris holding a rally in Pittsburgh is going to drive way more local coverage than her going on Stern. Beyond that, almost every local outlet typically covers the speeches and certainly you're going to hear about it.
So, yeah, it hits more than just the thousands who attend.
It's still the most effective way to reach as many voters as possible of a targeted area.
One rally a week in October will not cut it. Fortunately, I'm confident Harris will start holding multiple rallies a week despite what some here think.
Quiet Em
(1,179 posts)she has a lot on her plate. I think she's doing fantastic. She's everywhere.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)But he was a workhorse. In October alone, there was only like six days where he didn't hold a rally. Harris has held one rally so far this month (Flint last week).
Quiet Em
(1,179 posts)a lot going on.
Self Esteem
(1,766 posts)Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,049 posts)Freethinker65
(11,160 posts)Hope Walz has his folksy sports analogies ready to go.
wnylib
(24,706 posts)He will need to crush that conspiracy BS -- in a nice, Midwestern guy way, of course.
moonscape
(5,402 posts)media rounds when he was auditioning for VP and did great! He will again
Quiet Em
(1,179 posts)It's one of the things I love about him.
BoRaGard
(3,125 posts)After decades of republicon lies about climate change,
the magas think it's all lib BS.
To which I say, tell that to Milton.